Am tempted too, especially with the EVF included.Hmmmm. I am certainly tempted. I'd like to see if I can get a further cut on customs clearance. Down to £20. Perhaps an email to Tenso
Hope the raw files are compatible with Lightroom. I had to update my older version of Lightroom when I bought my 5D3!
Not at the moment I'm afraid but no doubt soon.
DPP 4 is now available from Canon though (if you want to install it just enter the serial number from your M) and can export files as a TIFF which works fine in Lightroom etc. This is what I'll be doing for a while.
You can call Coventry or your local depot to get the online code to pay for the customs charges. This way you can save a day and pay even before the letter arrives.as soon as you pay you can make your way to your local depot. Just identify yourself and tracking number that it
Glad to hear you're grtting on ok with it. Reading dpreview it sounds like a dud but there are a few posts over there and yours here that suggest the opposite. Yeah there are issues but that's the same with every new camera and most of what I've read can be corrected with firmware.
Great to hear that the usability, battery, EVF and tilt screens are all improvements. These were all areas that let the M down. The resolution is greater which will help with cropping and the IQ looks great. (Did you use and creative modes in those shots? The dynamic range looks great) If the AF is quicker then I'd say that it's a win-win over the original M.
Edit:
Looks as though the bugs reported so far are either minor or relating to 3rd part equipment. Most of the camera related bugs are minor and fixable in a F/W update. There are people on dpreview threatening to return their M3s because the images are dull and flat. One guy claims that you can really adjust this in PP using Raw files! Jeez, hilarious reading...
Yeah the M3 is certainly the more vibrant in these examples but, as you say, probably more related to changing light conditions. What I was more interested in was the result of the higher pixel density and how much more detail this could resolve. When scaled down to fit on screen, both seem to show comparable detail to my eye. Pixel peeping a full size shows more noise in the M image, and although the M3 image is obviously slightly larger, there seems to be more processing (which looks to be noise reduction) in camera on the JPEG. It's difficult to determine which is able to resolve finer detail but I think the M3 just edges it despite the internal processing being applied.They are all quite processed in Lightroom so not in the slightest bit accurate in colours
I've now uploaded Raw files, Tiff's and Jpegs for 2 different images at different ISO's up to 6400.
As I mentioned earlier the light was awful, so these are not the greatest photo's (reasonable contenders for worst ever though ). These are however straight from each camera Raw's with zero editing, cropping, correction or anything else.
The M files were converted to Tiff's and Jpeg's using Adobe. The M3 Tiff's and Jpeg's using Canon DPP 4.2 which can be downloaded here:
http://www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos_m3.aspx
(when it asks for a serial number any Canon camera should be fine, I used the number from my M)
All were taken in AV mode as the light was changing constantly, so the exposure time may vary.
As the files are huge I've uploaded them all onto a website.
Mods- I haven't used this site for anything to date and all that's their is these pictures. Hope that's okay.
The images can all be downloaded here:
http://cornwallcamper.co.uk/
I've done a quick comparison of a couple of the shots myself and I really can't see what the fuss on DPReview is all about.
I mean here are two Jpegs, the first from the M, the second from the M3:
http://www.cornwallcamper.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/M/Stream-M1-ISO800.jpg
http://www.cornwallcamper.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/M/Stream-M3-ISO800.JPG
They are both ISO800 and f11 with an exposure time of 1/400th. The colours are different but so was the light.
If anything I think the M3's colours look more vibrant in this example.
Anyway, all of the files are on the link above for anyone interested.
Some lovely looking shots there.We managed another trip yesterday afternoon. The plan was to make our way down to the St Just area and maybe capture a sunset. The thing is, the weather was gorgeous. So what actually happened was we pulled into Praa Sands and popped into the Sand Bar pub. Where we stayed (great pub right on the beech).
Praa Sands is great if you have a camper van as you're allowed to stay in the car park (again, right next to the beech) overnight.
So instead we got up early this morning hoping for a nice dawn over St Micheal's mount. The weather wasn't playing ball but it was still enjoyable. I tried pulling some colour out of the shots I took but they didn't look right to me,
so instead tried them a little moody which I think I prefer.
Then off to Perranporth on the way home for some breakfast. Typically the weather here was fantastic (no idea if it was like this at dawn though)
It's looking really nice here all week now so hoping to get out again over the next few days.
Some lovely looking shots there.
Some lovely looking shots there.
Ditto - excellent shots. Thanks for the comparison shots on your website too Wissel. Very informative. I don't think there is too much to worry about IQ wise.
Quick question regarding the M.Fn button - can you assign it to most common functions (like the digital level) or is it only assignable to a few things/mode dependant?
I'm not sure about the M.Fn button. I'll have a look later once the battery's charged again.
@Wissel so for someone like myself, that's got the original M, mainly because it was a bargain in Argos, would you recommend upgrading to the M3 based on a couple of days usage so far? Also how would you feel about it if you had paid £800 for it ie the uk cost of camera and EVF?! We all love our Ms because of the bargains they've become!! Ordering it from Japan like you have is def an option for me, but £800 uk wise is a no go for me (or at least would mean knocking few other things off my current wishlist lol).
Just interested in your thoughts on it.
Quick question regarding the M.Fn button - can you assign it to most common functions (like the digital level) or is it only assignable to a few things/mode dependant?
Took me a while to figure it out but it can be configured to about 15 things but the level isn't one of them. The level is easy enough to access though, you just push the info button a couple of times and it appears as an overlay (with a histogram overlay if you want it to).
Well i picked up mine this evening from the post office on my way back from work.
Snap - exactly the same here!! Was just looking at Tenso for forwarding.This is no good at all... I was relying on you all hating the M3 so I didn't start getting tempted buy one (would have to sell something to fund it). I fear that this thread is going to end up costing me...
We managed another trip yesterday afternoon. The plan was to make our way down to the St Just area and maybe capture a sunset. The thing is, the weather was gorgeous. So what actually happened was we pulled into Praa Sands and popped into the Sand Bar pub. Where we stayed (great pub right on the beech).
Praa Sands is great if you have a camper van as you're allowed to stay in the car park (again, right next to the beech) overnight.
So instead we got up early this morning hoping for a nice dawn over St Micheal's mount. The weather wasn't playing ball but it was still enjoyable. I tried pulling some colour out of the shots I took but they didn't look right to me,
so instead tried them a little moody which I think I prefer.
Then off to Perranporth on the way home for some breakfast. Typically the weather here was fantastic (no idea if it was like this at dawn though)
It's looking really nice here all week now so hoping to get out again over the next few days.
Edit - One thing I forgot to say. Thanks Canon for adding a digital level to the M3. I've missed having one since selling my 7d. It's nice to not have to straighten any shots in post.
Mine went from 'Awaiting customs clearance' to 'Awaiting customs charging' to 'Revised charges to be paid' to 'Forwared for UK processing' then 'received and processed' at the national hub then the north west processing centre
Mine's gone from 'awaiting customs clearance' to 'waiting customs charging'. I wonder if calling them tomorrow and paying over the phone will speed things up?
My M3 is now showing in ParcelForce tracking as "Awaiting Customs Charging". As I wasn't sure what this means I gave them a call and it basically means the parcel will now go to my local delivery depot at which point a letter will be sent to me informing me I need to pay £102.09 in charges (don't know what the breakdown is but this is the total).
To speed things up I can wait until it's showing at my local depot online (around Tuesday the lady guesses), then either phone up to pay, pay online or pay in person and collect (which is what I'll probably do).
This will make the total cost for the M3 + EVF from Amazon via Tenso £328 + £33.54 delivery (via PayPal) + £102.09 customs charges = £463.63 compared to around £800 in the UK.