Cokin P Holder and Hitech ND Grad 0.9 Good beginner setup?

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Sigma 17-70mm and i have just realised i wrote 72mm instead of 77mm, doh! edited
 
smalls said:
perhaps look at the cokin p wide filter holder, the one linked may well cause vignetting and when grads are stacked may intrude into the frame
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The Cokin P wide holder will only accept one filter and not allow you to stack them.
I use the normal Cokin P holder on a Sigma 17-35, and the is no sign of vignetting with one filter. I do not stack filters as it is generally not recommended.
 
Peter10d said:
The Cokin P wide holder will only accept one filter and not allow you to stack them.
I use the normal Cokin P holder on a Sigma 17-35, and the is no sign of vignetting with one filter. I do not stack filters as it is generally not recommended.
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Sorry to be perdantic, you do nit use the colin wide as it only holds 1 filter, but you never stack them as it's not recomended, sort of contradicting yourself. As for stacking filters you can and if you look at Lees filter book ( sorry can not remember what it's called an awful lot of the photos in there taken by some of the best landscape togs have stacked filters.

As for the OP, I personally went for the lee filter holder it, to me, is better quality and iirc easier to fit than the cokin holder.
 
IanC said:
http://www.teamworkphoto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78_767_277&products_id=10295

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http://www.premier-ink.co.uk/photog...e/cokin-ptype-filter-holder-bp400-p-1257.html

Would everyone agree that this a good enough setup to start off with when using ND Grads for the first time on landscapes? i know i would need an adapter ring to fit my 77mm lens.

Thanks for any help.:)
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why not go the whole hog and get this from the same place

It's what I'm going to get, and is a set of Grads and NDs. Hitech. For £50. Pretty good value if you ask me. I bought a cheap, used, Cokin P holder to use them in
 
The corkin holder can be fiddly. Yes the Lee holder is far better so are the larger filters but it depends if you wish to spend that sort of money?

I bought the corkin P wide angle in the past probably for the same reasons you are.
But that was for a sigma 10-20.

Dont waste your money on a full kit as i cant see you ever needing a 1 stop grad.

Before you buy you could evaluate the the exposure between the land and sky in your shots.

I think your choice of a 3 stop is a good starter.

Dave
 
The D90 & D40 are both 1.6 crop sensors aren't they? The standard holder should be fine at 17mm, reports from people using the same crop and sigma 10-22 said that any vignetting using the same holder vanished by around 12mm.

However, are you planning to go full frame or invest in a UWA lens like the 10-22? If so, the 100mm HiTech filter and the Cokin Z-Pro holder might be a more future proof option.

I'd also look at getting a hard edge grad as well. When using the soft grads at 18mm on my kit lens, the effect of the soft grad was barely noticable. The hard grads produced a much better effect and the graduation isn't as "hard" as you'd think.
 
I recently got the filter kit linked above and the cokin p wide holder.

I am finding the cokin holder a bit loose which can cause vignette badly on one side or corner if it slips. I'd like something a bit more sturdy. But it was cheap as chips so no worries. The hitech filters work fine.

Jim, why would the 100mm be better for full frame or 10-22?

I've got the 10-22 on a 450d but I might end up full frame on day so I'm interested.
 
Davec223 said:
Sorry to be perdantic, you do nit use the colin wide as it only holds 1 filter, but you never stack them as it's not recomended, sort of contradicting yourself. As for stacking filters you can and if you look at Lees filter book ( sorry can not remember what it's called an awful lot of the photos in there taken by some of the best landscape togs have stacked filters.

As for the OP, I personally went for the lee filter holder it, to me, is better quality and iirc easier to fit than the cokin holder.
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Sorry, maybe I did not make myself clear. I have been using the Cokin P normal holder, as it was my original purchase, for use on a 17-35 lens. I have only chosen to use one filter on this holder, as I find one filter adequate for my photography. In addition, many people on this forum suggest avoiding stacking filters.
I have recently purchased a Cokin P wide holder, to use on my recent purchase of a 10-22, which I believe requires the wide holder.

To clarify, I believe at a certain width, a wide holder becomes essential (not sure how wide ?), however down as far as 17 wide, the normal holder is adequate. I suppose the question of stacking will bring different opinions.
 
dcash29 said:
The corkin holder can be fiddly. Yes the Lee holder is far better so are the larger filters but it depends if you wish to spend that sort of money?

I bought the corkin P wide angle in the past probably for the same reasons you are.
But that was for a sigma 10-20.

Dont waste your money on a full kit as i cant see you ever needing a 1 stop grad.

Before you buy you could evaluate the the exposure between the land and sky in your shots.

I think your choice of a 3 stop is a good starter.

Dave
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Im not looking to spend too much to start with,thanks for everyones advice its really appreciated.

Does any one know of a cheap 10 stop ND filter if there is such a thing?

i know b+w and lee do them but there a bit too pricy for me at the moment.
 
Hitech does a 85mm (cokin P size) slot in ND for £25ish. Trouble is that light leaks occur easily apparently but better than Welding glass without doubt.
 
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