Colour Levels?

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Hi all, I took the following picture the other night, nothing done to it at all.


Barvas Ruin by M+M Morrison, on Flickr

When viewed in Gimp it looks darker than when opened with Windows Picture Viewer, however on Flickr it is slightly darker still (I think) So brightest is PV, darker is Gimp then Flickr (if at all)

The detail in the grass is much greener overall and brighter in the bottom corners. Whats the correct image?

Thanks
 
Whats the correct image?

Thanks

I think only you can answer this as you know what the scene looked like and what result you want :shrug:, also its likely it looks different on my monitor compared to yours.

Different compression rates / colour profiles in different programs will mean that the displayed image may vary a little.

The important thing is to make sure that which ever one you are using to edit with is displaying correctly and that it matches what you are getting when printing. Has your monitor be calibrated?
 
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Hi there thanks for that. No my monitor hasn't been calibrated, I have looked into this and on a waiting list for a calibrator (may not get it for a long time though lol) Even so I can't see the calibrator fixing my issue as at the moment I am view on the same monitor.

I will have to try a print to see how off it is and whether it matches what I see in Gimp/Flickr or Win Pic Viewer.
 
could also be a problem with colour profiles loading ( or not ) in the various programs.
I have a sunrise backdrop on my works pc which looks exactly like I remember taking it, on my home PC is look deep orange, in ViewNX it look less orange, but my printer put a brownish cast on it !.

I have been reliably informed that you can't match everything without using a hardware device to calibrate and create colour profiles, and ensure your software can use them.
 
Calibration is the only way to go.
Printing without calibration will just lead you down a confusing path as who knows what the printer will decide to do without calibrated settings to work from.
I suggest getting a print done at a lab. Even different labs will give you varying results! Also there is your colour profile to be considered. Are you shooting or saving in adobe rgb or srgb? Web browsers run on srgb, prints are better done in adobe rgb use adobe rgb on flicker and it will look different to the way it does in gimp or ps. I just stick to srgb, as most digital views require it then convert to adobe when i print.
I run a calibrated hooded monitor in the same conditions that it was calibrated at (curtains drawn and desk lamp on) its no good setting your calibration in the mornin with curtains open then expecting the settings to work at night with incandescent light.
 
Ok cool. At the moment I'm not printing, the differences are between the one screen, Flickr and Gimp darker than Pic Viewr.

Where can I change my Flickr settings? I'm not Pro so not sure if I can.
 
All this colour talk, just realising this is one part of photography I know nothing about!

So I need to check camera colour setting, Flickr colour setting and gimp setting and get monitor calibrated?

No I'm not sure what colour space is :(
 
Ok
R G B stands for red green blue.
Camera sensors have sensor arrays that receive these channels.
Most modern cameras give you the option of saving the image in the adobe rgb or srgb, this can be found and altered in your camera settings.
For the most part you will want to have your camera set to srgb and forget it as most images are viewed digitally. This will ensure that throughout the editing and viewing the results should be consistent.
For print images you can still shoot srgb but then convert to adobe rgb prior to printing. Printers can produce far more colours than the average monitor can, unless your using a very high end reference monitor. So with the assumption that most people will be viewing your images on similar basic and un calibrated monitors a standard colour space such as SRGB (the S stands for standard) has been used in web browsers and other programs and devices.
This is the first step you should take to achieve continuity.
I have read somewhere that flikr alters images during the upload, i feel this is not the case, but i may be wrong. Have you tried uploading the same image to a photobucket account and comparing that to your flikr account in the same browser?
Having a calibrated monitor is very handy and sometimes essential but doesn't come without problems, primarily, you will see your images as standard, if your printer is set to the same calibrated profile as your monitor you should achieve consistent results. However, none of us with images online know what our viewers monitors are like, are they adjusted correctly? Is a desk lamp shining on it? Have they cranked up the contrast and colour cos it looks good to them? Are they viewing on some auto brightness mobile device with a scratched screen?
This gets me down because as much careful tweaking and nudging of contrast and colour balance we make it could make no difference as someone viewing on a messed up monitor won't get the same experience.
 
Personally I have my cameras set to Adobe colour space as this covers a wider range of colours than RGB. I will then convert to sRGB if the image is to be viewed digitally. As Simon mentioned above it will depend on what you plan to go with the image.
 
Thanks for that, thats explained it alot, pretty sure all my settings will be standard then.

I had never thought about how it would look on the other side, with other peoples screens. So at the end of the day if it looks good on my screen/prints :thumbs:

Thanks all.
 
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