Colours looking different on internet... Read here

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Often the subject of colours on the web photo comes up time and time again.

I often get some saying my colours look wrong I can not see what they are seeing or what set up they have BUT I know that my colours are correct.

If you want to know if you are seeing the right colours on Your monitor you need to have
One it calibrated
Two you need software that works.

If you not sure about your web browser take a look here
The target on the left should not alter when you mouse over it, If it do your software is not up to it. the one on the right will change.

HERE

This is only one part of the story of Colour management, it's a minefield and you need to get ALL parts right for it to work.
I hope this helps.
 
Or more usefully

Calibrate your screen
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Save as JPEG in sRGB colourspace
 
Chaz, this makes me laugh because your skin tones are nearly always wrong. I know mine are correct and virtually everyone else who sells people shots for a living on here are also correct because they look right on my screen.

How do I know mine are correct? Because they come back from the lab looking the same and looking like people. Every edit you do of someone's shot here makes them look like they've been microwaved.
 
The23rdman said:
Chaz, this makes me laugh because your skin tones are nearly always wrong. I know mine are correct and virtually everyone else who sells people shots for a living on here are also correct because they look right on my screen.

How do I know mine are correct? Because they come back from the lab looking the same and looking like people. Every edit you do of someone's shot here makes them look like they've been microwaved.
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How do you have such blinkered view, as to what I see on my screen and what you see?
you send to what lab ? do they colour correct or not?

What browser have you got?
Here is an example how the wrong browser will show you different colours the left is Chrome the right is Safari read the link and see more about it This is not my views on the link but ones I do read and learn from.
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neil_g said:
Sorry no not this test, just by calibrating and using the correct colour space..


colour_test by neilgates, on Flickr
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you are missing the point.... It not about what you save yours in but how others save theirs and how you see them in YOUR set up... Try and read it.
And then you might start to understand.
 
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Chaz Photos said:
How do you have such blinkered view, as to what I see on my screen and what you see?
you send to what lab ? do they colour correct or not?

What browser have you got?
Here is an example how the wrong browser will show you different colours the left is Chrome the right is Safari read the link and see more about it This is not my views on the link but ones I do read and learn from.
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No lab I use colour corrects my prints, Chaz. I only say what I see. Most people on here with calibrated monitors produce similar results whereas yours always, and I do mean always, look wrong and sometimes badly. Doesn't matter what browser I use.
 
Chaz Photos said:
you are missing the point.... It not about what you save yours in but how others save theirs and how you see them in YOUR set up... Try and read it.
And then you might start to understand.
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To be honest anyone that I'd be crit'ing the colour accuracy I'd like to think they'd be running calibrated and in the right colour space anyway.
 
what is the point of trying to help anyone when you don't even read what has been put, you read part and jump to your own view. I have not said this is anything to do with printing just how you see images on screen from others...... I give up.



A little knowledge is a dangerous thing
 
neil_g said:
To be honest anyone that I'd be crit'ing the colour accuracy I'd like to think they'd be running calibrated and in the right colour space anyway.
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you are missing the point read the link, this is nothing about screen calibrating but the web software you might be using
 
The23rdman said:
Chaz, this makes me laugh because your skin tones are nearly always wrong. I know mine are correct and virtually everyone else who sells people shots for a living on here are also correct because they look right on my screen.

How do I know mine are correct? Because they come back from the lab looking the same and looking like people. Every edit you do of someone's shot here makes them look like they've been microwaved.
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Invoice for new keyboard coming your way!
 
sorry Chaz, I cant see your point

Here is my colour workflow

- Shoot RAW
- Auto white balance (only to prevent metering screw up)
- Shoot a x-rite colour chart on location
- Get home
- Calibrate my screen
- Create a profile based on my x-rite test shot
- Edit (in a colour neutral environment with daylight bulbs, grey walls, black blinds)
- Output in the format I want. For web that is sRGB, For print it depends on the lab and that might include a print profile

Just which part am I not understanding?

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sRGB works properly by default in all browsers and on most hardware. Just because FF6 on a good day can read some other profile, doesn't mean I am going to ignore the 99% of other users who don't have this set up

However, if you work on a un-calibrated system in a poor editing environment, your images will look off no mater what colouspace you choose

I can't make people calibrate their screens before viewing my work, but by ensuring colours are accurate from camera to output (and then saving in sRGB) is the only way we stand a fighting chance of getting things to look right most of the time for most of the people...
 
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Chaz, just maybe the problem is you're ignoring the obvious. If virtually everyone suggests your colours are usually out then isn't it most likely that your setup or workflow is at fault rather than everyone else's?
 
I tried this on my 21" CRT monitor and while there was a small change in my ordinary browser (Crazy Browser) it was only VERY small with virtually no change at all in Firefox.

I set my Compaq monitor up just using my eyes and a calibration picture from DSCL Labs:

http://www.dscolourlabs.co.uk/images/calibration_image.jpg

I've looked at a lot of LCD monitors etc and I still prefer CRT when it comes to judging colours.

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Chaz,
Mod edit: personal comment removed. How can so many people on here have issues with only your photo's and your photo's only. Doesn't that indicate that the problem must be at your end?
 
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Richard King said:
sorry Chaz, I cant see your point

Here is my colour workflow

- Shoot RAW
- Auto white balance (only to prevent metering screw up)
- Shoot a x-rite colour chart on location
- Get home
- Calibrate my screen
- Create a profile based on my x-rite test shot
- Edit (in a colour neutral environment with daylight bulbs, grey walls, black blinds)
- Output in the format I want. For web that is sRGB, For print it depends on the lab and that might include a print profile

Just which part am I not understanding?
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This is NOTHING to do with your workflow ITS all about seeing other peoples photos on your web browser that is what it all about as to saving in sRGB has nothing to do with it READ the web link then you might understand and get the point. Right I am not going to post here again as SOMEONE has started to get personal and I will deal with that else where.
 
Chaz

We all understood/understand that to get your colours right across a range of browsers you save in sRGB. That's pretty much in digital photography 101

What is really useful for people (especially fiddling photographers) to understand is that saving in the right colourspace, is only a small part of the story

It doesn't matter a hoot if I view a-another photographers images in sRGB If his editing monitor is a mile off calibration, his images will look OK to him, and crap to me, and most other people too
 
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Richard King said:
Chaz

We all understood/understand that to get your colours right across a range of browsers you save in sRGB. That's pretty much in digital photography 101

What is really useful for people (especially fiddling photographers) to understand is that saving in the right colourspace, is only a small part of the story

It doesn't matter a hoot if I view a-another photographers images in sRGB If his editing monitor is a mile off calibration, his images will look OK to him, and crap to me, and most other people too
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Chaz, this is probably the most important point and to be honest I'm not really understanding what you are trying to get across but I do understand what everyone else is trying to tell you - your processing workflow needs revising.

Apologies if this appears a bit blunt but I'm not one to pussyfoot around and your entrenched viewpoint has reminded me of one of grandfather's sayings, "You're all out of step except me".
 
There have been a couple of personal comments made in this thread which are entirely against the spirit and ethos of talkphotography. Any more will result in accounts being closed, no warning, no discussion.

There are still comments on here which are unacceptable however (not necessarily in the thread), the people know who they are and what they are. I could remove them but why should I go to extra work to fix your childishness. There is one chance and one chance only. Remove the comment or lose your account.

The behaviour displayed here is quite frankly the sort of thing you might expect to see in a playground, not from supposedly mature adults.
 
I apologize. It was childish and bullying. Wont happen again.
 
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