Just once from Panamoz, camera (Sony A7iv) fell off chair and broke left side dial, contacted Panamoz and was told send to Sony UK to get fixed (Sony had to replace the whole dial and internal parts it controlled) £400+ later I sent receipt copy to Panamoz and received full refund for repair cost within about 2 hours. Russ.Having asked "which lens" , and a suggestion ,from Black Fox , to look at OM System, I may buy camera and two lenses from the importers. Has anyone had to get warranty work done, and how did it work out.
Thanks in advance,
John.
Just once from Panamoz, camera (Sony A7iv) fell off chair and broke left side dial, contacted Panamoz and was told send to Sony UK to get fixed (Sony had to replace the whole dial and internal parts it controlled) £400+ later I sent receipt copy to Panamoz and received full refund for repair cost
Very surprised by that, not a warranty repair as camera fell from a chair. Since I can't get emojis to work I'm writing this with a wide smile, if you bump you're car the dealer won't pay to have it repaired, wonder how Panamoz funded it.Just once from Panamoz, camera (Sony A7iv) fell off chair and broke left side dial, contacted Panamoz and was told send to Sony UK to get fixed (Sony had to replace the whole dial and internal parts it controlled) £400+ later I sent receipt copy to Panamoz and received full refund for repair cost within about 2 hours. Russ.
I have one excellent lensGood to hear, I’m planning on getting the RF100-500 and Cotswold are the cheapest option by far.
White box lens usually means it has been taken from a kit that would normally be sold with a body.May I ask those of you who have used Cotswold cameras, what if any is the difference between items (lenses) sold in the original boxes and those that are listed as being in white boxes??.
Just struck me as unusual to list an item as sold in a "White box", when they are new?.
Thanks Andy.
They sometimes sell the lens separately from the kit. It's just the packaging the lenses are the same.May I ask those of you who have used Cotswold cameras, what if any is the difference between items (lenses) sold in the original boxes and those that are listed as being in white boxes??.
Just struck me as unusual to list an item as sold in a "White box", when they are new?.
Thanks Andy.
But after importing costs prices are not much less than used UK and more expensive than grey plus the hassle of returns and getting refund of import costs from HMGWhy even bother with this company? I go direct to Japan for lenses not with cameras as of yet. The Japanese say how it is or they "loose face"as they say .If a product is "mint" or Near mint" you would find it hard to tell from new. Even after paying import duty etc the saving made is worth it
Why even bother with this company? I go direct to Japan for lenses not with cameras as of yet. The Japanese say how it is or they "loose face"as they say .If a product is "mint" or Near mint" you would find it hard to tell from new. Even after paying import duty etc the saving made is worth it
Which ever way you look at it - a new product is better than a used product (of the same model and specification of course). Maybe this doesn't apply to things like wallets or suchlike that "wear better" over time.Why even bother with this company? I go direct to Japan for lenses not with cameras as of yet. The Japanese say how it is or they "loose face"as they say .If a product is "mint" or Near mint" you would find it hard to tell from new. Even after paying import duty etc the saving made is worth it
Not at all.To argue or to suggest otherwise is... surely idiocy?
Of course there are exceptions including out of production and/or rare items where the second hand market is the place to buy.Not at all.
There are very good reasons for buying such items. It may be that the second hand price is half the new price or perhaps you want this particular item but it's out of production, so you buy a used example. It's also possible that those who buy a previously owned example think that the "idiot" is the person who spends more just to have an unused item.
My experience is exactly the opposite.However, my experiences if buying mainstream, modern equipment (most recently, 2x Canon R5 bodies and an RF100-500 lens) I found that it would cost more to buy used than new through a reputable supplier....tgis is when 'used' to me makes no sense.
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It all depends on price and where the product was bought. Please explain to me on purchasing the 4 or 5 used lenses from Japan that I bought, look like as good as new,and also the latest model .Throw into that a saving of around £1000 make more sense to me against new n the UK.Which ever way you look at it - a new product is better than a used product (of the same model and specification of course). Maybe this doesn't apply to things like wallets or suchlike that "wear better" over time.
To argue or to suggest otherwise is... surely idiocy?

Possibly so, but after 6 weeks of researching used R5 and RF 100-500 prices in all the usual places and comparing these with the prices offered by Panamoz, Cotswold, Norwich Cameras et al, I'd contest that my buying decisions were both well structured and reasoned and not remotely hasty.....and for the two (new, grey) bodies and lenses, I saved well over £1000 vs buying used.My experience is exactly the opposite.
I think you may be displaying an example of the "hasty generalisation fallacy"...
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You appear to be taking this personally, whereas my comments are general.Possibly so, but after 6 weeks of researching used R5 and RF 100-500 prices in all the usual places and comparing these with the prices offered by Panamoz, Cotswold, Norwich Cameras et al, I'd contest that my buying decisions were both well structured and reasoned and not remotely hasty.....and for the two (new, grey) bodies and lenses, I saved well over £1000 vs buying used.
It all depends on price and where the product was bought. Please explain to me on purchasing the 4 or 5 used lenses from Japan that I bought, look like as good as new,and also the latest model .Throw into that a saving of around £1000 make more sense to me against new n the UK.
Seems to me you have never looked at the used photographic market in Japan so commenting on something without having done so.
New or used below?
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New in UK £1000
used from Japan including import and vat £750
now that makes sense to me
Well, it's used isn't it, that's the difference, hence the difference in price?It all depends on price and where the product was bought. Please explain to me on purchasing the 4 or 5 used lenses from Japan that I bought, look like as good as new,and also the latest model .Throw into that a saving of around £1000 make more sense to me against new n the UK.
Seems to me you have never looked at the used photographic market in Japan so commenting on something without having done so.
New or used below?
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New in UK £1000
used from Japan including import and vat £750
now that makes sense to me
Well, you quoted me and cited '...you...' rather than '....people here generally...' in your comment, so please excuse my confusion.You appear to be taking this personally, whereas my comments are general.
Can you not return it under distance selling regs 14 days right to return?Variations are to be expected but not a difference between the serial on the label and recorded in firmware, I can't even find it in firmware on mine.
The level serial looks similar to yours but has more information on the label and FCC ID for instance.
On my issue they refuse to accept the dust as a defect so I'll have to keep it.
Won't be using them again, back to E-Infinity and Panamoz for me.
Yes, but incur all the postage costs and by that time it's not worth it for a speck of dust that doesn't actually affect anything.Can you not return it under distance selling regs 14 days right to return?
Do you refer to the serial on the base of your A7C? How many digits does it have?Variations are to be expected but not a difference between the serial on the label and recorded in firmware, I can't even find it in firmware on mine.
The level serial looks similar to yours but has more information on the label and FCC ID for instance.
On my issue they refuse to accept the dust as a defect so I'll have to keep it.
Won't be using them again, back to E-Infinity and Panamoz for me.
Further to my comments about Cotswold Cameras communications...I've just had this messageJust had my lens delivered in 8 days, no problem.
However, their notifications / updates were a bit lacking.
They confirmed the order pretty much straight away. then no more comunication until 7.48 this morning saying it was on it's way and I would hear again in 1 or 2 days.
At 9.11 I got a message from some company called EASY LUXURY LTD' via DPD saying my parcel will be delivered this morning...not ordered anything from "Easy Luxury" so Googled them. One of the first responses was a scam alert where someone orders with a stolen card and has it delivered to a false address for them to collect later saying the address was a "Mistake". The parcel was the correct size and weight for what I was expecting so I accepted it and it was my lens.
I've no idea what the conection Easy Luxury has to Cotswold Cameras but it would help if they let customers know that they will get a message from a seamingly random company about their delivery.
Panamoz's notifications / updates I find to be first class