Do I persevere?
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What are you using at the moment, what do you photograph and what challenges are you facing? I don’t think anyone can help you with this question without knowing more.
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Another set up.
Because Sony is better than Canon
Because Sony is better than Canon
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If you're spending that sort of money on equipment. You shouldn't need to ask others what to buy
Well anything, just general photography, but not glamour or studio. I use a telephoto zoom for aircraft, boats or distant subjects.
Unfortunately that's what it costs these days, or more?If you're spending that sort of money on equipment. You shouldn't need to ask others what to buy
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Given the problems you’ve described in the crop vs full frame thread I’d be inclined to spend more time with your current kit first, perhaps with a course or camera club session, and work out exactly what is limiting you before spending several thousand pounds.
Looks like you have the budget.
I am not using Canon, but I would like the body and the 24-105.
The 100-500 has a very interesting range for landscape and when speed is not the most important thing, but might lack a bit of light when birding or doing wildlife. And this lens is expensive. I would prefer a 150-600 from Sigma or Tamron… but this is not always supported by Canon…
I am not using Canon, but I would like the body and the 24-105.
The 100-500 has a very interesting range for landscape and when speed is not the most important thing, but might lack a bit of light when birding or doing wildlife. And this lens is expensive. I would prefer a 150-600 from Sigma or Tamron… but this is not always supported by Canon…
I didn't exactly ask what is the best kit but your reply more or less sums up all the replies I have had for my recent posts.
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No you asked;
Which is a question absolutely no one in the world can answer.
It’s a subjective question; how would anyone else in the world know whether you should buy a camera? How would it affect your finances, family, wellbeing, does it do what you need? How much research have you done? Have you tried it out? What are you expecting to achieve?
There’s no detail in your question, and if you’re going to complain about the lack of feedback from others, just have a look at your vague responses to people who’ve tried to get detail out of you regarding your requirements.
It’s simply not possible for a bunch of strangers to give you a specific answer to such a vague brief.
Get a free test drive of the R6iii with the 100-500, and then the R7 with the 100-400, see what you think, these are very different propositions to your entry level DSLR’s
I believe Fuji also do free test drives.
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If you want to play with lots of toys, I suggest always buying second hand.
If you choose carefully, you can change your kit when it no longer pleases you and take a lesser loss. I've even made a profit in several cases!
If you choose carefully, you can change your kit when it no longer pleases you and take a lesser loss. I've even made a profit in several cases!
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I recently had same dilemma over buying my first mirrorless, family budgets, do I really want mirrorless, should i change from Nikon ... etc
Went with my heart and bought a Nikon Z8 with 180-600 Z lens, very happy so far.
But I am keeping my D850 and D800 and D7500 and D600 plus all lenses !
Camera's are like Motorbikes, follow your passion ....
Went with my heart and bought a Nikon Z8 with 180-600 Z lens, very happy so far.
But I am keeping my D850 and D800 and D7500 and D600 plus all lenses !
Camera's are like Motorbikes, follow your passion ....
I as I'm aware I haven't complained about anyone's reply, however I have agreed with a previous poster's summary, sorry if that appears to be a complaint.
I'm sorry but my finances, family and wellbeing are my private affairs and I feel they don't have any bearing on the post.
As to vague detail, all I need is a camera body, a general all round versatile main lens (unfortunately a zoom) and a telephoto zoom (min 100mm, max 300mm plus)
I have posted previous threads as to why I had to return what I bought but to recap, the R6 III and RF24-105L lens was bought new from Canon online store. It is being return because I paid for a new camera and received a second-hand one. The RF100-500L lens had a very noticeable lump of dust on the inside of the front element , quite close to the centre. For what it all cost I found it unacceptable. I have bought filters and spare battery for the R6.
What I had before was a Canon 700D, EF100-400mm L lens, Sony a77 II and a Tamron 18-270mm which covered my needs.
I surprised that Phil V seems to be the only one for FF. 4/3rds and crop sensors may have some advantages? Technology moves on and all I'm trying to do is upgrade my older equipment, for example the Canon EF100-400 mm series 1 lens.
It's just a hobby for me.
I'm sorry but my finances, family and wellbeing are my private affairs and I feel they don't have any bearing on the post.
As to vague detail, all I need is a camera body, a general all round versatile main lens (unfortunately a zoom) and a telephoto zoom (min 100mm, max 300mm plus)
I have posted previous threads as to why I had to return what I bought but to recap, the R6 III and RF24-105L lens was bought new from Canon online store. It is being return because I paid for a new camera and received a second-hand one. The RF100-500L lens had a very noticeable lump of dust on the inside of the front element , quite close to the centre. For what it all cost I found it unacceptable. I have bought filters and spare battery for the R6.
What I had before was a Canon 700D, EF100-400mm L lens, Sony a77 II and a Tamron 18-270mm which covered my needs.
I surprised that Phil V seems to be the only one for FF. 4/3rds and crop sensors may have some advantages? Technology moves on and all I'm trying to do is upgrade my older equipment, for example the Canon EF100-400 mm series 1 lens.
It's just a hobby for me.
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I hadn’t seen the other threads with this information, so thanks for sharing it.
In that case, perhaps you can narrow your choice to the R6 III or the R7. I’d recommend giving both a test drive and seeing what you think.
I don’t think many people here are especially pro one format or another, to be honest, it’s horses for courses. Personally, I use cameras with small, cropped, full-frame, and medium-format sensors. The choice depends on what I’m shooting and what I need from the camera.
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You’ve completely misunderstood my posts.
What I posted in response to you was that you should pick what suits your needs.
My responses to others were in response to ‘you can’t tell the difference’ to which I gave a very specific response regarding low light performance and shallow DoF (neither of which you have specified as a requirement).
You’ll note that I also encouraged you to try the R7 and a cheaper lighter lens as well as the R6iii. Which you can do for free with a Canon test drive.
As for actual buying advice?
I’d always recommend 2nd hand or grey market because I like to maximise VFM. You can pick up a good mk1 R6 for a grand and I’ll guarantee it’ll be incomparable to your DSLR’s. But the same can be said for the R7
BTW the battery will fit the R5’s, R6’sAnd the R7, you’ve still lots to choose from.
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Mind you, as a very old proverb tells us: "a bad workman blames his tools". 
Right, but I hate mounting screws with a hammer...Mind you, as a very old proverb tells us: "a bad workman blames his tools".
And with a dull knife, I can not make proper cuts.
For everything there is an optimum, and then you need to make compromises.
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Was there also a problem with the camera? Apologies if I have missed an earlier post.
Did you try the combination even if there was dust?
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This is true.
The trick, I have found, is to know when it's the camera that's the problem or the person holding it.
If the picture is good, then it is the person.
If the picture is crap, then it is because the camera does not have precapture, the lens is too short and the tripod too wobbly.
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This may well be so.
This, on the other hand, is merely one possibility but on the whole I'd suggest that this is also the fault of the person.
Bear in mind, though, that one person's great song is another person's horrible noise and a similar dichotomy can be applied to photographic images...
Something I often think when I see award winning images at the Natural History Museum wildlife photography competition.This may well be so.
This, on the other hand, is merely one possibility but on the whole I'd suggest that this is also the fault of the person.
Bear in mind, though, that one person's great song is another person's horrible noise and a similar dichotomy can be applied to photographic images...
The camera was bought new from the official Canon online store but by looking at it I could tell that it wasn't a brand new camera, that was the problem.
If I wanted a second hand camera I would buy one for a lot less money than I paid for that.
It hasn't actually gone back yet due to Canon's return policy. It has been accepted as a "return" by Canon, but the Parcel Force return label isn't being accepted on Parcel Force website, Canon is investigating the problem. Hopefully I will have an email soon?
Any recommendations for "new" camera equipment dealers?
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Another 'what kit is right for me thread'!
Really only you can decide.
Actually taking the time and trouble to try some of the options first hand rather than consulting the opinions of others on the internet is likely to be a whole lot more instructive.
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And those three do used kit so you might be able to save a bit or look at systems that they do not stock new in any depth, the more you can handle the better placed you will be to make a good decision.
Not really and it wasn't meant to be. I already had made my decision all I was asking was do I go with my initial decision.
Ok the thread might not had been crystal clear but I had already purchased a Canon R6 mark III with a RF24-105mm L lens and a RF100-500L lens, job done as far I was concerned.
However I was sent a second hand used camera and the zoom came from an official Canon dealer which unfortunately had internal dust on the front element.
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You have certainly mastered understatement!!!
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At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I’d still recommend a Canon test drive to help you decide
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You can take a horse to water....
This thread was a follow on from my previous threads, I didn't want to constantly repeat those threads.
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Surely keeping the discussion in a single thread would be neater and clearer?
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From past recommendation's of yours and what you stated about crop sensor/4/3rds cameras, I will stick the with R6 mark III and lenses.
I might add an R7 at a later date.
Not sure how the try before you buy works with Canon? I did have a quick look on their website , didn't find anything.
Thanks.
From past recommendation's of yours and what you stated about crop sensor/4/3rds cameras, I will stick the with R6 mark III and lenses.
I might add an R7 at a later date.
Not sure how the try before you buy works with Canon? I did have a quick look on their website , didn't find anything.
Thanks.
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Here
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