Do you feel comfortable commenting on others images?

Chillimonster said:
a thought / comment is different from critique in my opinion.

Critique is about light / post-processing / composition etc, thoughts and comments are more about the 'content' of the picture.

:shrug:
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Betty said:
I said the same thing ages ago, and was shot down for it :(
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:bang: ;)

Take a look at the title of the main forum under which all other photo forums are listed. ... I think you'll find it says 'Photo critique and sharing'


So now can you both go back and critique all my shots again please....they're in general.

:thumbs: thanks.

:p :D
 
I find it difficult to judge photographs from a small screen image. Who's to say that the poster has their screen set up the same as mine? What looks fine on the screen I'm using now looks dreadful on the laptop downstairs. Sharpening artefacts that make an image look terrible don't show up on the netbook to nearly such an extent.

If anyone wants my C&C, PM me and I'll give you my snail mail addy so you can send me a print!!!
 
gingerjon said:
I'm arrogant enough to think my opinion is as valid as the next person's. I tend to only offer opinions on subjects and photo types that I have some experience in taking myself - so I tend not to comment on macros, landscapes, studio work and so on.

I assume that my posting an image to a forum called Talk Photography that the poster is expecting people to talk about their photography.
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I don't think that willingness to offer C&C is arrogance at all. If someone isn't prepared to take crit, then maybe they shouldn't be posting their pics up. As someone said elsewhere - you might as well just put them on Flickr.

Forums should be about learning and inviting discussion. I want to improve my work. That's why I'm here. If nobody tells me when I have screwed up, then I will never improve. I'd rather be a 'tog with a temporarily bruised ego (from crit) than a blissfully ignorant one who keeps on making the same mistakes.
 
Similar to your 'Snaps' forum idea Betty, I posted on the other thread. I personally think it's the only thing that will work. If you don't want C&C for what ever reason, but want to share a picture, post it in the 'This cotton wool feels lovely' (:lol: ok maybe not called that) forum. It doesn't have to be solely for those who can't handle C&C all of the time. We all get off days where C&C could possibly tip you over the edge (which I think is what happened today with Sawman :( ), so post in there then, and hopefully if people are good enough to still comment, the comments will be nice and help make your day a bit better :).

Oh, I don't know ... one thing I do know though ... I'm sick of seeing people fighting about one thing and another. I know it happens on all forums, and believe me I have seen a lot worse than what goes on here. Not to mention I have also been guilty of taking part :$ ... but maaaaaaaan, it's Christmas time, lets not fight :D

Oh and in answer to the original question: I don't feel comfortable, but I try to give what I hope is helpful C&C anyway, that way I hope to have a better chance of receiving the same back, as and when I decide to post anymore images on here again :$
 
Freester said:
You know what this just about says it all to me.

I have been watching stuff like this happen for a while and have opted not to comment. But I think I will have my 2pth now!

There are certain occasions when people post pics and then before or after crit say 'no crit necessary', and then get offended when crit is offered.

Sorry but that's not the way it works IMO. If you post your are looking for crit to improve. If you just want to share your crappy snaps with no crit then put them on Flickr. :shrug:

I get a little fed up that some of my pics don't get much C&C at all. Why? How can I improve if I don't get any feedback? I can't help feeling that the reason is some people are worried to offer C&C in case the poster gets offended. I know I am at the moment.

I think we should make it clearer that posting images can and will be subject to positive / negative comments and that the poster should be prepared to take comments on the chin.

Maybe another option is to put an area on the forum where people can post but prefer no C&C.

Sorry if this is a bit harsh. It just feels things have changed a bit in the last year I've been here - maybe slightly for the worse :shrug:
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with posts like that, theres no need for me to add anything further :clap:
 
Haven't read every post in this thread, but did read the thread that Gary had linked to. I still feel a bit of a newbie around here as only been here for about 6 months and do feel uncomfortable sometimes commenting on other people's pictures, unless I know them. I think the reason behind this uncomfortable feeling is due to having hardly any C&C on my own work, it's as if it's not a done thing. I personally post on here wanting people to offer criticism as it's the only way I will improve what I do. If all the feedback you get is 'nice shot' or 'great pic' aren't you just going to carry on taking the same sort of pics?

And I obviously hadn't read freester's post.
 
rally-media said:
Haven't read every post in this thread, but did read the thread that Gary had linked to. I still feel a bit of a newbie around here as only been here for about 6 months and do feel uncomfortable sometimes commenting on other people's pictures, unless I know them. I think the reason behind this uncomfortable feeling is due to having hardly any C&C on my own work, it's as if it's not a done thing. I personally post on here wanting people to offer criticism as it's the only way I will improve what I do. If all the feedback you get is 'nice shot' or 'great pic' aren't you just going to carry on taking the same sort of pics?
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If I see your photos, I will comment mate. I dont see them all, but I see most of the "unanswered posts" via the link at the top.

Gary.
 
I think I agree with Jo, a forum just for sharing images may be a good idea. As she says sometimes you may just need clarification or to show something interesting so a place to do that is a good idea. Often in the bird forum people post shots for identification or as records shots and no-one minds or criticises so why not a general one?

I also agree that we should all stop arguing and have a big Christmas hug (and a sherry possibly).

Andy
 
Cheers gary.:thumbs:

Back to the original post, surely everybody is entitled to offer an opinion it is then down to the poster of the pictures to accept that opinion or not.

If it's constructive critique I cannot see the problem, if it's just a case I don't like it or it's crap then that's no use to no-one.
 
I like being able to offer an opinion.. You won't see me make many comments about Genre's in which I have little experience or skill (Macro & Landscape for instance) as I feel I have nothing to add.

I do however feel that I can ask questions and make comments to provide the tog with food for thought. "I'd like to see that in B&W" or Could you not get a lower viewpoint ?" etc.

When I post up pictures I expect (and like) feedback, especially if it makes me think about what I could do next time, or perhaps try something different to the PP. I've learned a great deal from crit, both of my work and others. We're not all Photo Gods, and it's good to know that somebody out there may want to challenge what I've done.

Likewise, it's sometimes nice when people say "Nice work"... Gives me a warm feeling inside; that's not wrong is it ?

Steve
 
Chillimonster said:
a thought / comment is different from critique in my opinion.

Critique is about light / post-processing / composition etc, thoughts and comments are more about the 'content' of the picture.

:shrug:
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General thought. "Hmm, I dunno."

General critique. "Hmmm, I dunno. It needs..."

The real problem is when a photo doesn't fit into the other forums and you want feedback but not indepth feedback. I always assumed that the forums were for critique.
 
Snaps Category - Any number of images, snaps or not. No slagging off the images

Existing Categories - Max 3 images, either one word or full crit welcome. Dont take the hump if people slag off your images.

Current Depth Category - 1 image only. No one word "great image" "me too" answers, only meaningful critique.

This restriction to the main cats of 3 pics would also help people self crit and pick the 3 they think are best in the first place rather than posting multiple msgs with 10 in each... :poke: Gary
 
68lbs said:
Snaps Category - Any number of images, snaps or not. No slagging off the images

Existing Categories - Max 3 images, either one word or full crit welcome. Dont take the hump if people slag off your images.

Current Depth Category - 1 image only. No one word "great image" "me too" answers, only meaningful critique.

This restriction to the main cats of 3 pics would also help people self crit and pick the 3 they think are best in the first place rather than posting multiple msgs with 10 in each... :poke: Gary
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:D I actually agree though, if I were more disciplined I would restrict the number of images I post!

Gary.
 
68lbs said:
Snaps Category - Any number of images, snaps or not. No slagging off the images

Existing Categories - Max 3 images, either one word or full crit welcome. Dont take the hump if people slag off your images.

Current Depth Category - 1 image only. No one word "great image" "me too" answers, only meaningful critique.

This restriction to the main cats of 3 pics would also help people self crit and pick the 3 they think are best in the first place rather than posting multiple msgs with 10 in each... :poke: Gary
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I also think this would be a great idea!
 
"Just for FUN" sub forum

General is the place folk post the shots they want the largest audience to see, regardless of the content or level of critique they require.
Just for fun could have its own crit ban rules, might turn into a spammers paradise, but...wtheck.....:shrug:
There is nowhere on the digitalz (which make up the vast majority of members) side of things like "show us yer film shots then", apart from a few show us yer pets, show us yer clouds, threads scattered about, they are too specific.

Just a thought :)
 
rule change on this very subject, there might be a link somewhere...
 
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