Fed Up of Nikon

What should I move onto?

  • Hasselblad!

    Votes: 22 28.6%

  • Canon 5D MarkII!

    Votes: 33 42.9%

  • what about that Sony A900?

    Votes: 6 7.8%

  • other. please state

    Votes: 16 20.8%
  • Total voters
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Sigh. I'm getting abit fed up of Nikon these days. I don't know but I decided next year that I'm jumping ship. Im not sure to who yet, but in Australia the prices are ridiculous, and its quite clear that Australia is Red, and not yellow. In fact it won't be yellow for a long time, Canon is all over nikon here, and that's the sad truth.

However I still am struggling to overcome myself to Canon. So Im looking at getting a Hasselblad H1. Im not certain what course of action I choose to do. I don't need these high ISO's and all that crap. Honestly a 25 - 400 is much more appropriate for my needs.

I own a D200, and its fine whenever I do Studio work, but elsewhere, its only okay. I guess its because I've been spoilt when I rented out a Phase one 645 with a P45+ back for some professional work.

It's still on my mind. So next year Im going to ditch my Nikon D200 for good, and either move onto the 5D MarkII or onto a Hasselblad. Unless anyone has any brilliant ideas why I should stick to this DX camera.
 
:agree: Hassleblad all the way - thats my next purchase after the 7D (when I win the lottery)
 
If you're into portraits or landscapes, buy the Canon 5D mark 2. If you're into wildlife or sports, you're better off with the Canon 7D.
 
:thinking:

so you're complaining because a 4 year old Nikon APS-C camera isn't up to the level the latest Canon full frame model or a medium format Hasselblad ? :shrug:
 
There are plenty of ways to move up to MF digital that don't involve splashing out on a hassy.

You have quite a choice of bodies and backs that will all give that boost in quality and resolution. I use Mamiya and Leaf personally but I've yet to see any real difference across that market that shows in print.
 
I'm sorry but Cannon is all over Nikon in Australia? I am confused by your comment....And although "advertised" prices are more than overseas I have managed to get lenses and bodies for not much more than UK or US.....
 
If you already own Nikon kit, why is the price going to worry you?

I would look at the longer term - Nikon may seem high price for you at the outset (bet you could get deals offshore that would mitigate that) but when you consider that my 17-35mm f2.8 cost me, brand new, £950 - and I have had what, 10 years of use out of it and now they are £1700 new and £1250 used...I can sell it and it hasn't cost me a penny.

Same goes for many other lenses - the 70-200 f2.8 for instance. The mark I that i have is still fetching £1250 all day long used (because new ones are £1500), I bought mine for £1067, about 3 years ago.

How do these prices come out as expensive? The use of my lenses has been FREE.

You better do your maths again.
 
Change to Canon, it makes sense if you are finding the Nikon is too expensive
 
I'm confused. Surely you can find something between the (relatively old) D200 and the latest Hasselblad!! Seems like one extreme to the other to me.

Why not consider one of Nikon's more modern SLR's like the D3x?? It'll give you all the resolution you want (compared to what you have now).

And why does it matter if Canon or whoever are the top brand - as long as the equipment you use gets the results you want then happy days. Seems like a case of throwing out the baby with the bath water to me.

Note: Just read Boldonians comment - hmmmm, very likely :)

Ryan
 
What's the price difference in Oz? Is it a massive gap between what Canon produces and what Nikon does?

I say that because on some items here in the UK Canon are streets ahead, but on other things then Nikon has the edge. I've just ditched my D20, not because it wasn't producing the goods, but because I needed something tougher but instead of investing a shedload of dosh into a new body like a D700, I went for a D2X because it meant my DX lenses would still be useful; image quality is slightly better but I have piece of mind that the weather sealing on the D2X is probably as good as it gets for £700.

A Hassy won't be cheap will it (don't now the UK price let alone the Aus price) and getting a mk2 will mean you'll have to re-invest in all-new glass to get the best out of the 20+mp sensor. Of course, totally depends on what you're shooting and what you're doing with regard to enlargements but I can't image that there's not a Nikon equivalent for similar money.

You've listed a really strange set of cameras in your poll; the Canon is a good piece of kit but it'll still be pricey I'm sure - pro-spec kit always is; the Hassy will be super-expensive regardless of resolution and if you're not blowing up large then why use such a high-res camera?;the Sony is a good piece of kit but it's not up to the level of the Canon and Nikon alternatives by all accounts.

You're not looking to change this minute I say wait for the D400 when it comes to see just how much of the D3S technology filters down for DX use; it's sure to come as a challenge to the 7D and that can only be a good thing. DX lenses are very, very good but a more advanced crop sensor than is available now could help you get more from them for much less cost than a new pro system from another brand....
 
You are complaining about what exactly with your D200?

Resolution wise - are you doing insanely large prints?

You said high ISO does not matter for you so having lots of choices in excellent lenses (including manual primes for really high quality) and D200 I'd say image quality will be on par with anything out there. Of course new cameras and new sensors do get better but shooting mostly in a range of base ISO won't show significant improvement.

I'd say that if you saying that D200 is rubbish anywhere except studio and that if you think that buying more expensive gear like Hassy will somehow automatically solve your problems then IMO you don't need a new camera - learn to use the one you have to its utmost limits and then you will know what you need to move to and because of what limits...
 
I don't really understand the OP's point... complaining that Australia is expensive due to exchange rates then talking about jumping to Canon because in Australia Canon is better than Nikon (I've never heard of the geographic argument in a Canon vs Nikon debate before, good effort!) and then finally saying, nah, a mega expensive MF is what I am going to get.

Oh and all of the above is Nikon's fault!

Full marks for the most mixed up posting of 2010 so far.
 
Flash In The Pan said:
:thinking:

so you're complaining because a 4 year old Nikon APS-C camera isn't up to the level the latest Canon full frame model or a medium format Hasselblad ? :shrug:
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Jjust what I was thinking why not try a D300 or 700 or if you can afford a Hassy then a D3 before you slag off Nikon's. (And I'm a Canon user)
 
Another Auzzie dreamer......
 
From this in June last year

illusion said:
hey ima newcomer to photography ive been looking round for a while but i got my camera today and had a go round the garden taking pictures. Im thrilled to bits hope i can and am welcome to this site :D
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to needing a Hasselblad now :eek:

That's what I call quick progression :clap:
 
so did you trade in your D60 for the D200? Does seem a bit ambitious looking at a Hassy....all in the space of a year!
My advice would be get a good grounding first, as it does sound like you're still up in the air!
 
mrgubby said:
From this in June last year



to needing a Hasselblad now :eek:

That's what I call quick progression :clap:
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That's even quicker than Edinburgh Gary:lol::lol::lol:;)
 
Well, it IS possible for someone to progress like that especially if all they do over that period is take pictures.

But having said that the one thing that does make me smile is when people change brands and go from something like a 450D to a D3x and suddenly that brand is much better.(same goes D40 to 1DIV) Well of course it is! you have gone from a basic slr with a kit lens to full pro spec gear. Of course it's better!!! But the betterment is not necessarily down to Canon/Nikon/Hassy/insert any other manufacturer but down to the shift you have made in terms of the model range.

I'm in the process of weighing up a shift myself at the moment and IF (it's still an if) I do it won't be because I'm going to denounce my current system as being the work of Beelzebub, but just that I find something else suits my needs a little better. Just as my current setup was the best for me when I chose it there may be a better solution for me at the time I'm evaluating upgrading. Simples.
 
I might be wrong but I suspect the idea that Canon are "all over" Nikon in Aus might refer to supply chain problems withing Nikon Aus. Aussie Sony users complained endlessly that they couldn't get anything except entry level lenses for ages. Shops would charge high restocking fees if lenses were ordered for testing but not bought (I think). Maybe Nikon doesn't supply as well as Canon does in that part of the world.
 
Some prices for comparison.

Aus prices are Teds, US are B&H

5D II Aus$3399/£1937 – UK is £1700, US is $2499/1533
D700 Aus$3799/£2165 – UK is £1760, US is $2399/1472
D3s Aus$7499/£4275 – UK is £3600, US is $5199/3190
1D Mk IV Aus$6499/£3705 – UK is £4485, US is $4999/3067

As the OP is talking about a 5D II it's hard to see the Aus$400/£245 difference between that and the D700 a reason to kick off so spectacularly.
 
Odd post - have you tried a D3 or D3x?
You might find a reason to stick with Nikon if so...
 
I wish I had whatever Aussie Jason Cole shoots with. The camera, the lights, backgrounds, the models......
 
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