First time out with tilt/shift lens

As a beginner can I ask why you think the photo needs a sky? Just interested in learning more and so curious as to why :)
 
trevjm said:
As a beginner can I ask why you think the photo needs a sky? Just interested in learning more and so curious as to why :)
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Even as a very experienced photographer I wondered the same thing. Not everyone thinks alike fortunately.

Sometimes dull even light is just what you need. You can be sure that every colour is absolutely accurate and there will be no shadows which can be disruptive in an image like this.
 
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I enjoy the composition the way it is but I share the opinion of
t4 that it is quite dull… just DRL and WB tweaks bring…

These tweaks reveal lots more details, render the very natural
micro contrast and micro saturation to the scene and so make
this mineral take quite "lively"!

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Yes, I think the light is fine. You need diffused light for this kind of scene. No need for a sky either, it wouldn't add anything, rather lift the eye away from the colours. I love the colours and textures. I'm just not sure of the placement of everything. Needs a lift too.

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ST4 said:
Nuclear edits
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What would that mean in this context?
I know and understand both words but
I don't get what they do together!
 
Irrespective of comments about skies and tweaking,for the first time with a TS-E lens it is pretty good as they are not the easiest of lenses to use in tilt mode.
 
ST4 said:
The second edit, it's a bit over the top
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Of course, I should have guessed!


EDIT
Sorry Steve, I completely misunderstood your answer…
the second edit! Now I got it. Sorry again.
 
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sk66 said:
I would assume
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DRL = Dynamic Range Levels = black and white points setting.
Shadow recovery is shadow recovery, nothing else! :)
 
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No idea, I don't work with anything
Adobe since a few years!
 
Mark Johnson said:
I thought that was "Rendition" :police::police::police::police:
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Ok, see there is some confusion…

Capture defines and includes everything that is done prior to shutter release.

Rendition defines and includes everything that is done after shutter release.
This will consider any alteration done in PP: DRL, WB, tonal separation, crop,
etc. and final publication… print or screen.
 
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Mark Johnson said:
Comprenez-vous?
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C'est bon Mark! ;)
Oui, maintenant je comprends très bien…

Quand même, ceci n'avait pas encore été dit clairement nulle part,
donc, rien n'est perdu! :cool:

No sweat, Mark! ;)
Yes, now I understand very well ...

Still, this had not yet been made clear anywhere
so, all is not lost ! :cool:​
 
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I do agree that there's an argument for brightening this up a little but not even as far as Kodiak's version, which I still think is too bright, and also too warm.

I obviously could have done this myself but I didn't want to make it look like it was a sunny day, because it wasn't.

When I arrived the rocks were wet, which intensified the colours but needed a polariser to keep the reflections down. By the time I took this they had dried out and were more subdued.

As for the tilt I tried using various degrees of it but didn't keep a record of which was which. So as an experiment that was pretty useless.

Thanks for the comments.
 
jerry12953 said:
not even as far as Kodiak's version, which I still think is too bright, and also too warm.
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No problem there, Jeremy as the suggestion was based
on the image contained values and do not reflect any
artistic intent nor the reality of the moment.
 
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ST4 said:
I wish I could write french…
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I wish I could do english as good as you…
it would help my contribution here much easier.
 
ST4 said:
Do you frequent any French speaking forums at all.
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No, the only forum I visit is TP.
…but as my sons are slowly taking over the operations,
I go on writing in French for many publications of different
interests and reviews.
French is spoken at home!
 
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Kodiak Qc said:
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No problem there, Jeremy as the suggestion was based
on the image contained values and do not reflect any
artistic intent nor the reality of the moment.
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To paraphrase, then, - one could improve the image (any image) in a technical sense , but you run the risk of losing its reality as you do so.
 
jerry12953 said:
one could improve the image (any image) in a technical sense , but you run the risk of losing its reality
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I understand what you mean but it doesn't go like that.

Once all the info recorded in the RAW file has been
optimized, then it is time to
— render a more organic look —even to minerals
— tweak in any artistic intent…

which I would never dare to do as it is not my picture.

Any decision is easier taken when all the recorded
data is available to work with.

I can help with the technical aspect of digital images but
I can not replace you when it come to its interpretation.
 
Forgetting the various attempts at PP tweaks the image itself for me is lacking a bit in interest, it's a pretty flat image even though there's some nice textures there. Think it would benefit from better light and a different composition
 
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