Sara, you're more than welcome. I say go for it, the full wack see what you get. It's damnably difficult but get it right... It's a great feeling. I'd love to know what sort of reproduction ratio I'm getting. I saw all that math in another thread, but to be honest, I can't be bothered working it all out. Suffice to say that the above is sparkly bits stuck onto the fanned bits of a small pine cone, and is looking along one fanned out section.