Genuine question about 5D MarkII

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Matt Sayle

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My dad just showed me a advert for the Canon 5D Mark II and noticed that it has a ISO of 25600. Is that useable?? I mean on my 400D (I know it is old) I can only get usable results from ISO 200 and everything else is as noisy as hell. Have cameras come on the much since the 400D that they can handle ISO's well over 5x bigger?

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I think you could consider it a "well it's better to get a really noisy shot than no shot at all" setting Matt :). It's gonna be noisy as hell but at least the option is there
 
On the 5D II I'm not sure as I don't own one but I can happily shoot at 800 on my 50D with very acceptable results. Almost no noise as long as I don't under expose
 
I shoot at 800 and 1600 ISO routinely on the 50D and have used 3200 which is actually pretty good. Going higher than that is emergency territory. ;)
 
I've never actually gone as high as 3200, but I consistently read and hear that anything up to 6400 are very useable..

Hope that helps! :)
 
I use a D3 and they're roughly the same, give or take a bit of cleanliness when it comes to ISO capability.

I've had a fair few usable shots at ISO 12,800, when 'the needs must' as they say.

I expect it's the same with a 5DmkII, depending on how well exposure is nailed.

My comfort zone goes from 200 (native D3 ISO) right up to 6400. :thumbs: It's an excellent facility that can really help get that difficult frame.

Some examples here, the 5DmkII is going to be very similar IMO.
 
I got comfortably usable shots from my 400D at ISO 400 and ok shots at ISO 800. If you can't get anything above 200 I'd have a think about that. The ISO performance of the 40D is streets ahead of the 400D though.
 
I am amazed you suffer from a lot of noise at 400 ISO on the 400D - I will often use my 350D up to 800ISO before worrying about noise, and to be honest I struggle to see any improvement in the 40D at this level. Maybe I just have a noisy 40D or a really un-noisy 350D I dunno.
 
Jimmy_Lemon said:
I am amazed you suffer from a lot of noise at 400 ISO on the 400D - I will often use my 350D up to 800ISO before worrying about noise, and to be honest I struggle to see any improvement in the 40D at this level. Maybe I just have a noisy 40D or a really un-noisy 350D I dunno.
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With my motorsport shots it total destroys them. Like it does with most of my pictures at that ISO.
 
Matt Sayle said:
With my motorsport shots it total destroys them. Like it does with most of my pictures at that ISO.
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Matt have you tried running your higher ISO shots through Noise Ninja or similar? Used properly it really does do a very good job :)
 
ISO1600 is my most used iso on my D80, and use iso3200 (max) when needed. Never really had a problem with either. As said earlier in this thread, use what ever needed to get the shot. :)
 
here's a couple I just took
not up for aesthetic appeal btw!

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can you tell which was ISO 200 and which was ISO HI2 (25600)??:thinking:
 
ShrubMonkey said:
and heres another

Taken with a 5D mk2 & 24-105mm lens at f4, ISO 3200, 1/15th sec
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That is something a 400D user can only dream of.

Somedays I don't think I am happy with anything above ISO400 on my 400D, however, trying to demonstrate the problem today, at ISO1600, I couldn't really see anything I could complain about. Perhaps it is just the type of thing I have tried to take, the situation that excacerbates the problem. I have tried an 800 photo of an aquarium at 1/6s and you can barely see the fish for the red lines, but at 1600 just now 1/13th, very little noise. When I tried some IR shots, I did note that at long exposure times, the noise was awful even at ISO100
 
Not much to add Matt apart from I also found that my (ex) 400D didn't handle noise
to well much above 400 iso either the 40D is much better though I don't shoot that
much in low light
Get a paper round Matt and start saving :thumbs: :D
 
I always have my 400D at ISO 400 for my wildlife shots and find it quite usable, and mind you, I am a pixel peeper and at that ISO setting I still get the fine feather detail I'm after in birds!

This is a 100% crop from a robin shot, at ISO 400, shot in RAW, no NR software applied. You can see some noise on the bg, but the detail is there and I could always remove the noise in PP, but tbh, it doesn't bother me at all.
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I sometimes shoot at ISO 800 if needed, but I do run the background through noise removal software in that occasion.

I can't see what you mean by ISO 400 being unusable for the 400D. If you posted some examples the case might be that there's a defect in your camera, or in the sharpening algorithm if you shoot jpeg and use strong sharpening.
 
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