has anyone heard of schmap?

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just wondering as i have been sent a message from them regarding some pictures i have on flickr stating that they want to use one for publication, i wont get any monetary funds but the possibility to have my name and possibly a link to my flickr site.

has anyone else heard from this site?


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Yes, Lots of threads on about it, I personally gave one of my pictures to them but many dis-agree.
 
They send blanket e-mails out on flickr, hoping the flattery will lure some people into giving their shots away for free. Do a search on here and you'll quickly see people's views!!

Chrios
 
They make a handsome profit and you get zilch. Leave well alone. It's not your pictures they want it's ANY pictures they can get for free.
 
I was asked earlier this year if they could use one of my Rome photo's. I decided against it in the end (in fact posted a thread on here about it I think). If I remember rightly, views were different on whether you should or shouldn't.

They make a profit because people are willing to give their photo's for free. Its up to you if you want to help them continue on that path... plenty will, but I just felt I didn't want to.
 
They trawl flickr for photos to use on their travel website - it's a personal decision whether you want to give them your photo to use and obviously nice to have your name credited but there's a lot of pro and stock photograhers out there who actively discourage it since it impacts on paid work.

The site is legit and so far access is free however they do have income from advertising and from memory the licence allows them to continue to use your image in the future so if they decided to publish a book or a premium site then they could profit from your photography.

I got contacted about one of my Docklands shots for the London page - the images are very small and rotate so yours won't actually be visible very often.
I umm'd and arr'd for ages about whether to submit my shot and in the end I let the deadline slip by without deciding... which I guess was a decision in it's own right.

The weird thing was that I didn't even think my shot was very good! :bonk:
 
Yeah I got a message through Flickr for one of my images. It was just a snap in my view, a cutesy little rodent from Edinburgh Zoo. I let them use it purely because the photo would never have any monetary value to me.

It is one of 50 or 60 pictures in the gallery of Edinburgh Zoo on their website.

I wouldn't allow any site like this to use one of my good images though.
 
Images don't have to be 'good' images to sell or have a value - they just have to be what someone wants! This image had a value to these people - because it was free.
 
I got a message from them today too. It's about a pic for their Paris guide and is of a Gulf Air plane.

I don't mind giving them the pic but I am not 100% clear about their T&Cs. If I let them use it can I sell it elsewhere if I get asked?

Also what's the legal issues with taking and selling/publishing pics of a brand (in this case Gulf Air) without their permission?
 
I was asked if they can use one of my images from chester zoo

I said yes purely because it's never going to do anything else while sitting on flickr :D
 
I've had emails about a couple of my pics in the last week or so as well.
I've said yes, to those two to see if it has any impact on my Flickr stats or not.
If they want any more, they can start paying :D
 
The people sending out these e-mails arn't working for free - why should you?

An image is worth exactly what people are willing to pay.

Frankly a commerical organisation hoping to flatter folks into giving work away operates on morally dubious line. Their business model involves spamming Flickr users, and its pretty shameful.

Given away images to charity etc is OK, but commercial organisations on trawling expeditions fall on the wrong side of the line for me.
 
It's a total scam, but I let them use one of mine and they credited underneath to the the name I gave them....

Gizza Blawjoab


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puddleduck said:
The people sending out these e-mails arn't working for free - why should you?

An image is worth exactly what people are willing to pay.

Frankly a commerical organisation hoping to flatter folks into giving work away operates on morally dubious line. Their business model involves spamming Flickr users, and its pretty shameful.

Given away images to charity etc is OK, but commercial organisations on trawling expeditions fall on the wrong side of the line for me.
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I see your point and I have read most of the threads on here about Schmap and I have mixed views.
One the one hand it's undervaluing your work but what else am I going to do with it? Of course I would love to sell it but at the moment all my pics are either on my hard drive where only I see them or on flickr. I have NO idea about how to start making any money from them.
I have let Nottinghamshire Wildlife use some for free but they are a charity. ;)
 
EMA747 said:
I see your point and I have read most of the threads on here about Schmap and I have mixed views.
One the one hand it's undervaluing your work but what else am I going to do with it? Of course I would love to sell it but at the moment all my pics are either on my hard drive where only I see them or on flickr. I have NO idea about how to start making any money from them.
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Well you won't make any money giving them away :)



Its not about the money.. its the principle. I just don't think a commercial organisation should get image reproduction rights by sending out begging letters. its a **** poor way to conduct oneself.
 
puddleduck said:
Well you won't make any money giving them away :)



Its not about the money.. its the principle. I just don't think a commercial organisation should get image reproduction rights by sending out begging letters. its a **** poor way to conduct oneself.
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It's not just that, Andy, what I really object to is that they word their emails to make it seem as if they are doing you a big favour by "choosing" your image to "feature" in one of their guides. In reality the only ones that get chosen are those where someone has replied to one of their spam mailings on Flickr.
 
Flash In The Pan said:
It's not just that, Andy, what I really object to is that they word their emails to make it seem as if they are doing you a big favour by "choosing" your image to "feature" in one of their guides. In reality the only ones that get chosen are those where someone has replied to one of their spam mailings on Flickr.
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Yep, its rather insidious isn't it. I'm quite surprised that Flickr haven't put a stop to it actually.
 
Julie1979 said:
Yeah I got a message through Flickr for one of my images. It was just a snap in my view, a cutesy little rodent from Edinburgh Zoo. I let them use it purely because the photo would never have any monetary value to me.

It is one of 50 or 60 pictures in the gallery of Edinburgh Zoo on their website.

I wouldn't allow any site like this to use one of my good images though.
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unbelievable comment julie they used your pic in a professional manner whether you thought it was good or not and gave you zilch bah humbug (rant over)
 
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