Has D-SLR technology reached a peak?

10, 5 and 2.5 would also be supremely awesome, slower's cool too! ;)

I thought ISO100 was Canon's standard and 50 was simulated, like the D300s's "L1.0" ISO100 quivalent?
 
Kaouthia said:
I thought ISO100 was Canon's standard and 50 was simulated, like the D300s's "L1.0" ISO100 quivalent?
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Yes, it is averaged from ISO100, but it doesn't matter. It looks very clean.
 
What I would like:
New sensor with the following features, multi site photosensors ala Fuji for increased dynamic range, layered sensor like sigma for larger pixel area with more light gathering, gapless sensors and gapless microlenses (if required), no colour filters required too.

Not asking too much is it? oh and I also want them to record data in parallel for each photosite so that each photosite can expose seperately for the correct light level.

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek

Nick.
 
The next major step will be to drop CCD's or CMOS etc... and pic up new imaging tech that will produce a more film like image (if you choose that option). of course the new tech will imeadaitely offer the exceptional low noise as high ISO and extreme Low ISO options as it just won't have the same isssues that the current sensors have.

Heck it still amazes me how DLP projectors actually work comapred to an LCD projector - so I'm guessing something along this type of see change in sensor as that will really test your restraint in not upgrading.

There was news about "Quantum Dots" maybe the furture is closer than we think?
 
We've not seen nuffin yet! Though it probably won't come as a DSLR.

DSLRs are a very old design, based around purely mechanical and optical technology. Current cameras are just an old style SLR with a digital sensor where the film used to be, and that presents severe limitations. And we have only just started to see what image processing software can do. Electronics are the new third component.

The new interchangeable lens compact style cameras are where it's at currently, like the Panasonic GF1 and other models like it from Olympus and Samsung. They are the first ground-up digital cameras designed for serious photography. The next generation won't have a mechanical shutter and we'll have a truly solid state camera.

Even these new cameras are very traditional in the way they look and operate - basically a box stuck on the end of the lens, which is the way it had to be with film. That will surely change over time. And manufacturers will get more and more out of smaller sensors.
 
Mark.A said:
Just wondering what you all think to the idea that D-SLR camera technology has reached, or is about to reach, a peak? I read recently that one of the top tech guys at Nikon seems to think so.

If this is the case then I'm wondering what they are going to do about it. They can't just keep on making cameras with more megapixels and expect us to upgrade. How will they persuade us to buy the next expensive D-SLR? More movie modes? :gag: Thoughts? :shrug:
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This may be a loooooong way off, but I'd like to see the emergence of new sensor technologies that are better than the human eye e.g. a holographic sensor which eliminates the need for focusing because it can capture the entire scene as though you focused at every point and exposed at every available aperture, but all done in a fraction of a second.

Then when you're back at base you could choose the focus point and aperture setting. Imagine an almost infinite number of variations of any one particular scene.

Seems far-fetched? Maybe not... ;)
 
subliminal1ne said:
personally i would like to see them at 60mp, decent dynamic range, iso 20 - 36000, 20fps, low or no noise.
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60Mpx...? What the hell for? You going to wallpaper a skyscraper? :lol:

The D3x is already too big for general-purpose photography at 24Mpx, it's why I have a couple of D3's as well...
 
CraigF said:
Just give me 15mp and Noiseless images @3200 iso and i will be delighted.
Hmm..How does an internal zoom sound for more accurate focusing.
ie, 500mm will still only be 500mm but you can zoom in further to be more accurate.
Bit like Live View Zoom only TTL.
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Magnifying eyepiece?

Just bought a DK17M for my D700 that does that :)
 
Chaz Photos said:
Who would have thought we have what we got now, say 10yrs back.
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Well, I thought we would have got further than this.....

Digital SLR's seem to be to be sold like sportsbikes - annual minute tweaks and minor changes that make very little difference to the final product - but conspire to make the user feel that they have inadequate equipment while the majority are not capable of using it to the limit in the first place!

Interesting reading through that most of you seem to want software or sensor changes - the SLR stays remarkably the same. Shame that you have to junk it when the electronics develops. If only someone could come up with a system that you could fit into the body and replace for different sensitivity and colours - that ought to sell. I think I'll patent the idea and call it 'Foto Image Loading Matrix'.
 
HoppyUK said:
Even these new cameras are very traditional in the way they look and operate - basically a box stuck on the end of the lens, which is the way it had to be with film. That will surely change over time. And manufacturers will get more and more out of smaller sensors.
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Actually the early days of digital was quite inventive - look at the Coolpix 990 with it's twist body, the flat Canon RC -250, the Sony Mavica FD that recorded to a floppy disk - it took time for digital photography kit to become rather dull.

I'm sure some of the ideas were a bit off the wall and didn't work so well but others fell by the wayside early on as I'm sure consumers want what they know rather than what they need.
 
Voyager said:
Actually the early days of digital was quite inventive - look at the Coolpix 990 with it's twist body, the flat Canon RC -250, the Sony Mavica FD that recorded to a floppy disk - it took time for digital photography kit to become rather dull.

I'm sure some of the ideas were a bit off the wall and didn't work so well but others fell by the wayside early on as I'm sure consumers want what they know rather than what they need.
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Yes, compacts have always been more innovative. Another example is the little Minolta Dimage I've got, years old now, with a folded light path so the lens doesn't stick out when zooming and the sensor sits in the bottom.

However, when it comes to more 'serious' cameras it all goes more traditional. Like the new Samsung NX10 which is about as cutting edge as it gets, but that even looks like a DSLR with a fake pentaprism, because that's what proper cameras have. Apparently. Manufacturers make what they think people want rather than what might be better. We're a conservative bunch.

But it's interesting to note that no matter how much better cameras become, or how much easier they are to use and get a good result, that doesn't seem to be reflected in any increase in the number of great photos most people take, including me :D
 
If they can fit WiFi in an SD card it can't take up that much space.
 
Mark.A said:
If they can fit WiFi in an SD card it can't take up that much space.
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I'd like one that works in an MMC card to do wireless tethering without buying the ludicrously expensive Nikon transmitter!
 
When I started in Electronics 6 bit ADCs running at 16Khz were high end , the last design I did was 16 bit running at 64Mhz time sliced to 1GHz. I don't know the signal levels coming from the camera sensor but I know that with my kit I could measure femto-amps so "consumer" kit has still got a way to go :)


Ps I wish they'd junk ISO, it's just a made up number ;)
 
Arkady said:
It's a toy - and what happens to me when I'm out of coverage in the Jungle or something?
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Use a memory card :) Seriously a short range 50m wifi connection would be an absolute bonus for tethered shooting. You know you want it :rules:
 
Arkady said:
It's a toy - and what happens to me when I'm out of coverage in the Jungle or something?
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you use the built in TomTom app that came with the built in GPS reciever to navigate you to your nearest WiFi hotspot! ;)

Seriously though built in GPS and WiFi would be much more tempting to me thant the current video options are. Seriously though for Canon to get me to part with my 30D they are going to need to either make a super sensetive low noise sensor, or a truly affordable full frame camera.
 
DigitalRelish said:
This may be a loooooong way off, but I'd like to see the emergence of new sensor technologies that are better than the human eye e.g. a holographic sensor which eliminates the need for focusing because it can capture the entire scene as though you focused at every point and exposed at every available aperture, but all done in a fraction of a second.

Then when you're back at base you could choose the focus point and aperture setting. Imagine an almost infinite number of variations of any one particular scene.

Seems far-fetched? Maybe not... ;)
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Well, looky here and here ;)
 
That's similar to what a lot of scientists use everyday at the confocal microscope. Set the aperature to 1 airy blocking out everything off the field of focus and reconstruct 3D images by stacking images.
 
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