Help! Having major issues with Spyder 3!

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Hi,

I've just recalibrated my monitor with Spyder3 Elite using the normal wizard thing and it has not done a good job at all.

Before calibration my monitor seemed pretty much spot on, as prints from various places came out almost nearly what I saw except maybe a couple of shadow areas sometimes suffering but not too much.

However, getting it 100% correct was of paramount importance, so did it all yesterday and now my screen is really really dark - any bodies photos i look at, if theres a shadow area its just pure black. Even people's like Joe Cornish's images, so its not a case of looking at another persons photo that has been edited on a uncalibrated monitor.

Using the following link:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/ARTS/MONCAL/CALIBRATE.HTM

In the blacks where the shades of black stop is square number 25....before calibration I had no issues what so ever viewing all of the squares!! The whites are somewhat better now though and I can see nearly all the squares where as before only the first 4 or 5.

Colours seem very unnatural now too - like Facebook isnt that vivid striking blue but now more of a deep sea blue. Google chrome doesn't look right, basically nothing does.

I calibrated in complete darkness, with overhead lights and in day light and none of these methods has solved the issue.

What is also funny to note - on the bit where it shows you an image before and after calibration, the image before looks miles better with loads more detail.

I use Windows 7 professional 64bit on a Toshiba Satellite A300-1BZ

To note I had a few issues getting the calibration tool to work in Windows 7 initially, which involved an uninstall of the whole program and drivers then making sure all files were deleted but this seemed to fix it.

I used all the default settings in Spyder3 that the Wizard suggested.

I really don't know where to go now? I fear I have lost my old calibration (or does a format solve it??) and won't get good prints from now on!

Any help appreciated.

James
 
Firstly you must have had your monitor switched on for at least 30 minutes before starting calibration.

What is your monitor?
 
Firstly you must have had your monitor switched on for at least 30 minutes before starting calibration.

What is your monitor?


It was switched on for a couple of hours.

Its the built in laptop monitor - which I'm surprised was so accurate before trying to calibrate.
 
Do you know the panel type. A lot of laptops are difficult to calibrate effectively.
 
monitor calibration is a right PITA to be frank!

heres a few possible issues.

1) Is your display settings set to factory default?
2) What brightness is your screen set to?

Depending on your graphics card, it may have a proprietory software on it managing the display settings.

To resolve the issues above, when you load Spyder3 run through the menus for calibration but select the RGB option as well as the others that are relevant for you. What this will do is take you to a screen that measures your monitor brightness and white point. It will take a reading from the screen and then you can adjust your brightness up or down to acheive 120 cm/d2. It will also tell you how far your white point is from 6500, for which you will have to locate the RGB sliders in your proprietory graphics card software. This may take some time and each time you adjust a slider, take a new reading and repeat till you have a close enough match to 6500k. Once this process is complete, the next stage will be the standard calibration process.

Also remember to go to your colour management settings in control panel in win7 and make sure that under the regular and advanced tabs your new profile is selected as the default option.

Let me know if you have any questions :thumbs:
 
monitor calibration is a right PITA to be frank!

heres a few possible issues.

1) Is your display settings set to factory default?
2) What brightness is your screen set to?

Depending on your graphics card, it may have a proprietory software on it managing the display settings.

To resolve the issues above, when you load Spyder3 run through the menus for calibration but select the RGB option as well as the others that are relevant for you. What this will do is take you to a screen that measures your monitor brightness and white point. It will take a reading from the screen and then you can adjust your brightness up or down to acheive 120 cm/d2. It will also tell you how far your white point is from 6500, for which you will have to locate the RGB sliders in your proprietory graphics card software. This may take some time and each time you adjust a slider, take a new reading and repeat till you have a close enough match to 6500k. Once this process is complete, the next stage will be the standard calibration process.

Also remember to go to your colour management settings in control panel in win7 and make sure that under the regular and advanced tabs your new profile is selected as the default option.

Let me know if you have any questions :thumbs:

Still struggling mate. The brightness is set to full in the power options. I don't think I've got any software running thats propriety like the Ati catalyst.

I can't see this option for RGB? Its not when selecting "target" is it?

I can measure ambient light and use the compensation tool if needed?

I'm just properly puzzled and stumped by this malarkey and am half tempted to just leave it be!! Grrr.

Just to note if i change the target to one setting then back to the 6500 2.2 it says "cant load target - invalid path"....i'm half wondering whether a format is the way to go as something seems seriously corrupt within my copy of Spyder3 and the install obviously did not fix it?

Thanks,

James
 
Still struggling mate. The brightness is set to full in the power options. I don't think I've got any software running thats propriety like the Ati catalyst.

I can't see this option for RGB? Its not when selecting "target" is it?

I can measure ambient light and use the compensation tool if needed?

I'm just properly puzzled and stumped by this malarkey and am half tempted to just leave it be!! Grrr.

Just to note if i change the target to one setting then back to the 6500 2.2 it says "cant load target - invalid path"....i'm half wondering whether a format is the way to go as something seems seriously corrupt within my copy of Spyder3 and the install obviously did not fix it?

Thanks,

James

are you using spyder3 pro or above? Also don't change the target from 6500 2.2, make sure that is what Spyder 3 is set to before you follow any of the below.

Having the brightness turned up isn't going to help as laptop displays should be around 120 cd/m2 in terms of brightness.

Try this.

1) Open Spyder3
2) Click Go>Edit Display Information
3) Select your display type (Laptop) in the 2nd window
4) Select backlight in the next window
5) In the next window increase/decrease your display brightness so that you can see 4 distinct squares and small differences between all the scales.
6) The next window, select RGB Sliders and click next.

This will take you to the window that will check your white point and screen luminance and give you the opportunity to tweak your settings and keep retesting to get to right points.

The other problem is that you need to locate whether the RGB adjustments are for your graphics card. Im on a Dell which uses ATI Catalyst, so it was fairly easy for me.

I hope that helps. Feel free to come back if you are still stuck :)
 
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Thanks for your help. I can see the 4 white boxes clear as day on my old profile. The RGB stuff looks tricky so I think I'll leave it till tomorrow when I've got time and will keep you posted :)

I have an ATI card and drivers, but Toshiba decided they dont want you to use the catalyst software.
 
Hi mate,

Still no luck what so ever - I've even tried a format. The closest I can get to 6500 is 6054...I just cant pull the blue into the required line even though my screen is now sea blue lol

Anyway...just so I know its not me being daft, this image processed on my uncalibrated display should look pretty fine to you I guess on a calibrated display, if your eyes on directly in line with the 90 degree angle of the monitor. I know its a tad dark as it is and needs lightning up, but was waiting for a calibated monitor:

steall_falls.png


Now is what I see on my "calibrated" displaye (bearing in mind we'll be in the realms of you seeing different to what I do anyway but I hope you get the idea.

steall.jpg


Please please help me figure my problem before I kill myself...or worse decide to leave my monitor uncalibrated!
 
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