Help write this Tutorial : Choosing and Buying your first DSLR

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The idea...

I floated the idea of collaborative tutorial writing here. It's taken a while to get round to it but this thread could be the first of many if it works out.

The post below this one will become the draft for a new thread in the Photography Equipment section of the tutorials.

I have made a rough layout but want you to help out with the content and suggesting things that should be covered or equally things that are unnecessary and should be omitted.

As it develops I'm hoping people will write sections and I can paste them in until we have a complete tutorial/ FAQ which will address some of the common things people want to know about when moving up to DSLR cameras.

The tutorial subsections (like 'Photography Equipment') are for TP hosted content. If you contribute any pictures to help with sections you write then we will need to copy the images to TP servers so there is no future problems with pictures not being available. They will still be your pictures and your copyright etc. if that is important to you.This thread will be closed when the new tutorial/faq is posted in the subsection and any further feedback can go in the new thread.

The first thing is to review the framework and see if more points need covering or leaving out. Then we can move on to writing up the content.
 
Draft for new tutorial thread.... partial (unfinished) edit 3.9

Introduction

This guide is aimed at the compact camera user that is considering upgrading to a DSLR system. I'm posting this thread but it has been compiled with the help of many forum members here and hence the use of 'we' in the text. It will give you some basic information about the features you will be comparing and how they differ from compact cameras in general. There is a huge amount of information on the forum and the internet which can be overwhelming. Because the subject is so broad we cannot cover everything here but we can give some pointers to help with the decision. If you want to research in depth on particular topics you will have to read or ask on the forum - or use Google.

If you were hoping that we will tell you which make or model to buy then you will be disappointed. The reasons are down to personal choices and should become clearer as you read on.

A few words about DSLR cameras.

There is a tutorial here that explains some of the internal workings of a DSLR and another on the basic features of each style of camera (compact,bridge and DSLR) here

A DSLR (Digital Single Lens Reflex) camera turns on and is ready to go instantly, buffers picture files to fast internal memory so there normally is no delay between shots (or 'shutter lag') and can be adapted to many specialist photographic tasks by adding lenses, filter or other accessories. You are buying the start to a photographic system or just a camera and general purpose zoom lens if that is all you need.

The sensor in a DSLR is bigger than you would find inside a compact or 'bridge' camera. The bigger sensor can collect more light and the larger pixel spacing means less noise when light levels are low.

MegaPixel count is still used to promote compact cameras and a lot of compact camera buyers still think it is all that matters. The number of pixels on a cameras sensor is no longer a good indication of potential image quality. Although you certainly would not want to shop for a camera with only a few Mega-pixels (if you can find one today), a DSLR camera with 8 Mega-pixels and over will give great image quality even compared to images from a 12 Mega-pixel compact - Why? Because the size of the sensor (see above) and the size/quality of the lens.

Lenses. You have a huge selection of lenses you can attach that range from special purpose lenses like close up (called macro) lenses or long telephoto to general purpose zoom lenses (often referred to as a 'walkabout' lens) for everyday use. If you get serious about your hobby you will end up spending far more money on lenses than you did on the camera!

Zoom. Compact and bridge cameras have things like 3x or even 12x optical zoom. When you start looking at lenses you soon realise all they say is a length in millimetres. You can work out the zoom multiple of a lens by dividing the longest focal length by the shortest so a 18-55mm zoom is 55 divided by 18 = about 3x. Once you are used to using lenses you will realise that figures like 3x don't help much in knowing what a lens can do but 18-55mm does. Lenses are a huge topic and people can spend a lot of time researching their next purchase. There is a bit more about lenses further down the page.

DSLR cameras can have mode settings similar to those on compacts like sports or portrait etc. These modes guide the auto exposure systems' choices of settings when taking the shot. They can help you get started but the DSLR offers much more functionality than most compacts and, while you can leave everything on automatic if you want, you can improve your photography and your understanding of photography by exploring the manual settings for yourself. One setting you mostly won't find on a DSLR is 'Macro' as this is not a camera setting but something that's built into some SLR lenses.

Compared to compact camera and even a bridge style camera all DSLRs are big and with a large lens pretty heavy too. Those of us that use DSLRs are happy to bear the load due because of the way we feel about the images we can capture. Don't buy a DSLR camera if you will not take it with you because of the size!

You will need a camera bag to store and transport your new camera and if you start buying new things for it you will soon need a bigger bag and so on.

If you are used to holding your camera out in front of you and looking at the screen on the back to take a picture then DSLR will take a bit of getting used to. With a DSLR you have a beautifully clear and sharp view of your subject because you look in the eyepiece and see out through the camera lens. Some recent DSLR cameras have a live view function that a first sight does the same as a compact. Whilst useful for special applications it is no substitute for the view through the lens. Some functions of the camera are disabled whilst 'live view' is active.

Because the camera offers so many options with the settings you can get very creative with things like long exposures and out of focus backgrounds etc.

DSLRs are very good at still pictures so they do not generally do video though one new model does and more may follow.

Some features of DSLR cameras that are promoted.
which ones are important?

There are various features that are promoted in camera advertising and most of them get discussed at some time on the forums. Depending on what you take pictures of some may be more important to you than others.

Anti camera shake systems. If you don't hold the camera still then there is a good chance the picture may be a little blurred due to the movement. Different makers have different solutions to the problem. All of them work and are useful to have. They stop camera shake but they cannot stop subject movement if the shutter speed is slow. In camera stabilisation has the advantage of keeping the lenses standard. Stabilising elements in the lens means you buy the mechanism with each lens. The stabilised lens method may cost more but is more effective at longer focal lengths like 300mm or longer.

Dust Removal. Unlike compact cameras where the internal space is always sealed you can take the lens off of a DSLR so some dust can get inside and eventually find its way onto the sensor where the picture is captured. The dust settles on to a glass cover that is over the actual sensor. When the camera is set to a small aperture like f16 these dust spots produce shadows that can spoil your pictures. A bit like the 'floaters' in your eye they only show at small apertures (ie for your eye when you are looking at a bright sky when sunbathing.... but you can't see them otherwise) and the rest of the time are not a problem. So most of the time dust is not an issue. For those particular shots where dust could be a problem a built in cleaning system is nice to have. Cameras without a cleaning system can be cleaned by the camera shop or you can do it yourself once you have read up on the best way to do it. Even with no built in cleaning system, if you do not change lenses frequently you may never need to have the sensor manually cleaned.

Live view. This is a bit like the normal compact camera mode where you compose using the screen on the back. You would not normally take pictures with a DSLR using the screen and many models still do not have that feature. The reason is that the view from the eyepiece on a DSLR is through the lens and beautifully clear and sharp and the screen is no substitute. Holding the camera above a crowd, focussing carefully on a bugs eye in a macro shot and other specialised application are where it may be useful but not in everyday shooting.

Price
What's the difference between a camera costing £300 and one costing £1500? should I get the most expensive I can afford?
The range of options with different models is huge but there are a few generalisations that can be made.
Even the lowest priced DSLR has a good sensor and can take great pictures.
Cameras at the lower end of the price range have various auto modes as they are aimed at people without prior SLR experience (but still have the manual options). They are quite well built but do not have the weather sealing and/or strength of higher models. They are smaller and lighter than higher models.
As you move up the price scale things like the auto focus performance, high iso limit and rate at which it can take pictures improves. Controls for the settings are all to hand as you are likely to be choosing them yourself. It is still likely to have the same sensor as lower priced models (because they are good).
As the price gets higher still the cameras become aimed at the serious amateur or professional and performance is everything. There will still be an auto option but no portrait or other modes. The sensor may be larger than lower models or even full frame size. Larger sensors tend to be best at keeping noise low. The camera will be bigger and ruggedly built to withstand everyday use.

You may decide to upgrade in the future as your experience grows but there is no reason to doubt the picture taking ability of any DSLR model you might start out with.


An outline of the main brands and mounts used

DSLR cameras have a socket on the front into which a lens can be locked into place. Each maker has their own design of socket and (usually) other makes do not fit. The socket system is called a 'Mount' (sometimes 'fit' is used). Some third party (ie not the camera maker) lens makers produce the same glass lens in different versions to suit different cameras.

In alphabetical order...

  • Canon . Most of the range can take EF or EFs mount lenses (ie both fit). EFs lenses stick out inside the camera a bit and some of the bigger expensive cameras do not have room (amongst other reasons) so only EF lenses can be used on those. Companies like Sigma, Tamron and others make EF and EFs mount lenses.
    Years ago Canon made FD mount lenses and you will see them on ebay etc. They do not fit modern cameras but it is possible to get an adaptor. If you manage to fit one it will be manual only (you have to focus the lens by hand etc.).

  • Fuji Fuji cameras use the same lens mount as Nikon cameras. Therefore the provisions stated below also apply to Fuji DSLRs.

  • Nikon Nikon SLRs use the venerable F-mount which means that all Nikkor (Nikon use a different brand name for their lenses) lenses manufactured after 1979 will fit any Nikon SLR or DSLR. This means there is a huge range of new and second-hand lenses available. However, certain older lenses (pre-AI) will not meter on any camera, and AIS lenses will only meter on a pro body (D200 or higher)

    Certain cameras (D40, D40x and D60) lack built-in autofocus motors and as such will only focus with lenses that have a focus motor built into the lens. These are designated AF-S. Sigma, Tokina and Tamron also make a number of F-mount lenses, but only Sigma lenses with HSM designation will focus on these particular cameras.

    Lenses with a DX designation will only fit DSLRs with a DX sensor. At the time of writing this included all current DSLRs with the exception of the D3 and the D700.

  • Olympus Olympus cameras use the Four-Thirds mount which was co-developed with Kodak. Olypmus, Panasonic and Sigma produce lenses for this format. The Four-Thirds format differs from other DSLR formats by virtue of a smaller sensor. See here for a list of compatible lenses.

    Older OM lenses will fit Olympus DSLRs using a specific adaptor with certain limitations.


  • Pentax Pentax DSLRs use the KAF lens mount or the older K-mount, which like the Nikon F-mount has been a standard mount for many years. Third party manufacturers such as Sigma, Tokina and Tamron also produce lenses in KAF-mount. You can use older K mount lenses but you will need to operate some functions manually. Ricoh K mount lenses may have some compatibility problems.

  • Samsung Pentax and Samsung entered into a joint venture to design and manufacture cameras and lenses. A number of cameras and lenses are available with either Pentax or Samsung branding, with minor design or specification differences. See Pentax above.

  • Panasonic use the 4/3rds mount. see Olympus above.

  • Samsung have rebadged and slightly modified Pentax DSLRs. See Pentax above. <check>

  • Sigma As well as producing lenses to fit other manufacturers cameras Sigma also produce them for it's own mount. No other manufacturers produce lenses in Sigma mount. Sigma make a small number of DSLRs including the SD14.

  • Sony Sony took over the imaging business of Konica Minolta (KM) several years ago. As part of this they took over the old KM mount and renamed it Alpha. Therefore all KM lenses will fit a Sony DSLR, along with all Sony-branded lenses. A limited number of third party lenses are available in this mount.

Go for a test drive if you can

Just as you may have chosen a compact camera because it will fit in a particular pocket or because you like the design there are things about a DSLR that will be personal choices.

You may just want it to take pictures that are better quality than your old camera but you may also find that it becomes a real interest and you want to add more lenses and accessories. If you are starting off with one makers system then you should check it suits you before committing to it.

The first thing you should do is go to a shop and hold a few different cameras in your hands. Things to think about when you are holding the camera...
  • Does it feel comfortable to hold? Different size hands hold things differently.
  • Is the shutter button in a good position for you?
  • Controls. You may start off using it on auto but one day you may progress to choosing settings yourself so, even if you don't yet understand what they mean... how easy is it to change shutter speed, aperture and iso? Can you just press a button or turn a knob or do you have to go into a menu system and find it?
  • Design. Do you like the look of it?
  • Weight. Being heavy can add some stability but if you find a heavy camera too much to carry you may prefer a smaller lighter model.

You could take a memory card or two with you as the shop will probably let you take a shot or two in the store. All DSLRs will take a good picture but they need some study to learn a bit about photography to get the best from them - so pictures from the shop will not tell you much.

Try to remember which brands felt good to hold so you can look up more information on them later. Don't be surprised if you started out thinking you will buy brand A and once you hold the different makes in your hand like the feel of brand B instead.

Finally for this section a few words from someone that may be the other side of the counter when you go looking for a DSLR...

When someone comes in to buy a digital SLR, we (the collaborative retailer, rather than myself) can usually tell straight off if someone:
a) doesn't have a clue
b) has done their research, but still doesn't have a clue
c) knows what they want, and what to do with everything

For the a's and b's, we usually ask a price range. We do try and milk them for their money, so say for example you have a £300 price range, we'd see if we could sell you a £400 camera.

Usually people like the sound of Nikon and Canon, simply because you'd rather buy something you've heard of rather than something you haven't. That isn't to say Pentax, Olympus and Sony are rubbish cameras. Far from it.
Now, when we sell a camera, we don't get commission. I don't know how it is for other companies. What we DO get is incentives- for example, if we sell a particular camera one week, we'll get a bit of a bonus in our payslip.
This month we've been told to sell the D700. Anyone seriously looking at the D700 wouldn't spend the extra £100 to buy it instore, so we haven't sold any at all.

Now, going into a camera shop to look at cameras. Have an open mind, but generally, don't listen too much to the sales advisor. 50% of us know what they're talking about, 25% own a camera, 10% are passionate and knowledgeable about photography. You never know who you're going to get, so don't listen too intently to the drivel they come out with.
Hold the camera, try out the focusing, settings, menu system. If you want to be shown a feature on the camera, ask the advisor.

Now, if they're a good salesperson, they'll try and sell you extras - filters, cards, bags, tripods, lenses, flashguns, batteries, warranties, battery grips, ttl leads, lens clothes, you name it, they'll try and sell it.

Out of ALL of those items, the only thing you'll need is a card. If you buy your camera in-store, and just can't wait to use it, buy a card with it. If not, buy a card online. It's literally a third of the price.
I would recommend getting a case as well. But that's all you need. Find out what you want to use the camera for, and upgrade from there.

As far as the retailer goes, depending on the salesperson depends entirely on what you'll walk out with, if you literally have no idea what you want.
I am a Canon man, and I love the canon cameras. I know them inside out, I know the kit lineup, I know what you need, what they do well, what they don't do as well, what the competition is. I know a fair bit. And that is really evident in my sales.
As far as everyone else goes, I don't know.

One bit of advice I can give you. Try before you buy. If you intend on buying the camera, and the sales adviser gave you a good service and was friendly, consider spending the £30 extra buying it from the store. Perhaps that £30 was worth it so you didn't blindly buy the camera.

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Other factors that can influence your choice

As mentioned in the quote above you will usually pay a bit more in a retail shop compared to buying online. The retailer has higher costs and offers a more personal service. Know the internet best prices when you go to purchase at the shop and do haggle with them. Have a figure in mind that you don't going to in view of the extra service the shop provided.

Grey imports. Manufacturers attitude to imported cameras is usually (not always) to not support the warranty as it was not purchased in this country. That means your Hong Kong or USA bargain may need sending back overseas if there is a problem with it during the warranty. You may find yourself liable to import fees and VAT when your goods arrive from overseas sellers.

Your new camera is the start to a complete system so your choice may be influenced if a friend already owns a brand and says you can borrow lenses etc.

Makers sometime run 'cashback' offers which are genuine offers. You send off proof of purchase to the manufacturer or their agent that is running the cashback for them, and they send you back a cheque.

You can buy just a camera body but they are also offered bundled with one or sometime two lenses included. The offered lenses are usually general purpose and will be ideal to get you started.

As mentioned in the section on what a DSLR is (above) how much you can see when you look through a lens depends on its focal length (in millimetres). Things get a bit more complicated when you consider the sensor size and a thing called 'crop factor' - plenty of info about that on the forum. Without going into depth, for most cameras you will start out with, a lens that covers 18-55 mm will be good for most things and will compare to a 3x zoom on a compact camera for how much you can see in the frame. There are zoom lenses that have a bigger range like 17-70mm or 18-250mm. The choice is yours.
The other property of lenses is the maximum aperture it can have which will be shown as Fnumber or as a range like f3.5-5.6. The lower the f number the larger the aperture. Large apertures let in more light so you can take pictures in darker conditions without using flash or stop the action better in sports by using a faster shutter speed. Some zoom lenses change aperture as you adjust the zoom so those are the ones that show a range of values. The worst aperture (high F number) will be at maximum zoom. Your starter or kit lens will not have a big maximum aperture so will struggle to focus and get pictures in low light without the help of the flash but everywhere else it will usually be fine. Getting a lens with a bigger aperture is one of the common reasons for upgrade once the learning stage with the kit lens is passed. Image quality and lens speed (aperture size) are why people buy a couple of lenses to cover a range of focal lengths even though there are single lenses with a huge zoom that cover the same range. Kit lenses are ideal to get you started and will help you know what you want when looking to upgrade later.

Like most consumer electronics repair costs can be quite high and uneconomic for lower priced models that are out of warranty. That said DSLR cameras tend to be reliable so you may wish to consider used equipment as a starting point. Assuming no repair costs you will avoid a lot of depreciation if you decide to sell it again and go for a different model.

Once the purchase is made...

They all have an auto setting so that is all I need to know right?
Well yes and no :)

If you want to get the best from your new purchase then you need to learn a few things. Read the user manual for a start. It will tell you a few things about photography as well as how to operate the camera. To get a picture that has the subject brightness correct it help to know a bit about exposure (like reading the book 'Understanding Exposure' by Bryan Petersen). To have a pleasing picture it helps to know about composition and not just plonk your subject in the middle of the shot. Some image processing on the computer may be needed. There are many topics to explore and Talk Photograhy can help you with all of them so do join in and use the forums!


Some useful links

DSLR and lens primer
http://www.vistek.ca/buyingguides/dslrs/Vistek_Buying_Guide_DSLR.pdf

Camera holding advice for help with in store assessment
http://digital-photography-school.com/blog/how-to-hold-a-digital-camera/
Google's list.

Price comparison site
www.camerapricebuster.com
 
no replies?

let's get the ball rolling

"Should I get the one with the most megapixels? biggest screen on the back?
... bit more about what DSLR is about vs compact. liveview has it's uses but not used like a compact normally etc."

you could add something about sensor size and crop factor (there are always questions about this)



maybe in this section

"Should I buy more lenses etc. with the camera?
....zooms are different to compacts. kit lens advice. filters. Memory cards. Bags etc.
"

something about max aperture - again something that always seems to cause confusion


for the section on canon
a good link for all things canon is
http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/

i know it's not much but maybe a few others will chip in
 
Think it needs to hit the new posts list a few times before people notice:)

Keep thinking :)

Fancy writing a short explanation about crop sensors and the way they kind of make lenses longer?
 
Hope this is the type of thing you're looking for...

I think the first thing to do is to research the available cameras to get an idea of what each is capable of and does it meet your requirements. The next thing is to "try it out" Literally go to the shop and get the feel of each of the short listed cameras from your research.
For example: You may decide on Canon but prefer (like I did) the feel of Nikon. Both can cover all my needs but because it "felt right" I'm now a Nikonite!

David.
 
gwocni. That is the standard advice ( go and hold some cameras) and will get included. just wondering if you went with the idea it had to be one of those brands or that was what the shop had? If there is a good reason to suggest the biggest names first then fair enough but there is nothing wrong with the other makes so why not hold those too? just want to keep it fair and balanced.
I'll update the draft in the morning with any new points to cover.

keep them coming.
 
gwocni. That is the standard advice ( go and hold some cameras) and will get included. just wondering if you went with the idea it had to be one of those brands or that was what the shop had? If there is a good reason to suggest the biggest names first then fair enough but there is nothing wrong with the other makes so why not hold those too? just want to keep it fair and balanced.
I'll update the draft in the morning with any new points to cover.

keep them coming.

Naw.... Just my experience, C & N came out tops for me but I did look at most on the market but you are of course correct in that all brands should be investigated.

David.
 
With regards to purchasing:

You/we need to add an explaination of grey imports and their effect on warrantys and also the potential for VAT and HM Customs added charges. I think this is especially important because it's the area that will often offer the best prices (and is seperate to the Kerso purchased items).

A link to some of the better sites could be useful and maybe www.camerapricebuster.co.uk but with the caveat that cpb is a paid for service so doesnt always have the best prices.
 
Fancy writing a short explanation about crop sensors and the way they kind of make lenses longer?

Are you looking to start a row?;)

Do you want to add anything about flash or is that too advanced for what you're looking for? I.e. DSLR and the benfits of hot shoe mounted flash and the possibility of off camera flash and the various systems compared to the limitations of compact cameras and their tiny flashes. It's all covered in Strobist and some compacts like the Canon G9 have hot shoes too but it may be worth an inclusion of the basics if people want to get a DSLR to learn more about lighting.

With regards to particular brands I think pretty much everyone agrees Canon and Nikon are it and anything else at the moment is a bit of a minority. While they all take photos as good as any other camera (the user is more important but that's a whole other argument) if you eventually want to take it further you can't get the top (pro) quality cameras and lenses that Canon and Nikon both make. Once you're in a brand that's it really without a big expense just to replace what you already have so I think it's fair to consider the other brands lesser at the moment. That may of course change over the next few years but at the moment I'd say for long term prospects stay with the big 2.
 
A few subjects to toy with ... What is a DSLR?, Is a DSLR what you really need? Preparation advice ie. what interests you in photography, what will you be shooting, versatility of bridge cameras as opposed to a DSLR. Second hand or new buying advice.
 
Draft....

Should I get the one with the most megapixels? biggest screen on the back?

The Mega-pixel war is over. The number of pixels on a cameras sensor is no longer a good indication of potential image quality. Although you certainly would not want to shop for a camera with only a few Mega-pixels (if you can find one today), a dSLR camera with 8 Mega-pixels and over will give great image quality even compared to images from a 12 Mega-pixel compact - Why? Because the size of the sensor on a dSLR is larger than a compact, so although you might have fewer pixels they will be larger and larger pixels are better able to record a wider range of light levels leading to better quality images.

So do not get sucked in to the Mega-pixel sales trap, there are more important aspects of your dSLR that you should consider, such as:

Controls
Handling
Viewfinder
Autofocus system
Metering modes
Menu system
Connectivity
[ someone else can have a go at one or more of these ]!!!!

Neil ..
 
If everyone can agree on what sort of thing they want included, then I'll have a stab at writing a guide - as long as we're not talking War & Peace ;)
 
This tutorial/faq is aimed at people that don't know a lot beyond pressing a button on a compact using the auto setting so whilst they need to know what makes a DSLR worth getting, we don't want to blind them with science or have FlashinthePan write war and peace again so they don't actually read it.

Some of the deeper tech stuff could go towards another tut/faq about getting the best from you new DSLR so none of this discussion will be wasted.

I was hoping to get someone that knows each brand (including the ones with less market share) to write a bit about the system. I know Canon and EFs /EF lenses etc but I don't know Nikon lens names and compatiblity or Oly, Fuji etc.. may have to PM a few people to get involved on their brands :)
 
The Mega-pixel war is over. The number of pixels on a cameras sensor is no longer a good indication of potential image quality. Although you certainly would not want to shop for a camera with only a few Mega-pixels (if you can find one today), a dSLR camera with 8 Mega-pixels and over will give great image quality even compared to images from a 12 Mega-pixel compact - Why? Because the size of the sensor on a dSLR is larger than a compact, so although you might have fewer pixels they will be larger and larger pixels are better able to record a wider range of light levels leading to better quality images.

So do not get sucked in to the Mega-pixel sales trap, there are more important aspects of your dSLR that you should consider, such as:

Controls
Handling
Viewfinder
Autofocus system
Metering modes
Menu system
Connectivity
[ someone else can have a go at one or more of these ]!!!!

Neil ..

That's the sort of thing we want :) Stuff that can be copied and pasted and maybe just edited a little (thinking noise needs mentioning as a big sensor benefit somewhere)
 
Good link. We don't want to rewrite that :)... but we could include the link.

That's why I'm now thinking we should keep the techy stuff to the minimum and concentrate on what you are faced with when you try and choose between the makers.
 
Having just recently started using a DSLR heres a few things I had to figure out..

The kit lens option available on most.. what range do they cover (18-55, 70-200 etc means nothing to a point and shoot user who's used to seeing 10x zoom). This would probably be covered in a tutorial about lenses but a summary would be good which could in future be linked to a full blown guide about lenses.

It might also be worth explaining that unlike P&S a kit lens will unlikely be suitable for close ups and require lenses or converters etc to be able to take super macro's

The different formats were a bit confusing.. I had never heard of SDHC before was it better than SD or CF?

Also a bit to recommend buying the same make of camera as someone who is kind enough to let you borrow lenses until you build up your kit... This has served me well ;)

Kit lenses vs other lenses available. Are kit lenses up to the job or just cheap lenses to get you going.

When researching about DSLR's you do read a lot about dust issues and preventions.. should this be considered when choosing a camera?

A mention of cashback offers.. sometimes people think that it's some sort of scam.. an explanation of how it works and why companies like canon do it.

That's all for now.. If I think on anything else I'll add it :)
 
The best bit of advice that I had when buying was to consider the kind of pics I wanted to take. Is it motorsport? Portraiture?

Write down the kind of pics in order, then write next to them the technical specs that would be applicable ie, frame rate for motorsport, sensor size for portraits.

This works out the technical spec for your ideal camera and should provide you with a shopping list. It certainly cuts down the number of manufacterers that would be suitable longer term.

Always consider where you would like to be in two or three years time. As your photography develops you will probably want to expand your kit, have a look at the kit available from your chosen manufacterer. You are buying into a system and it's expensive to change so try to get it right first time out.

I'd include things like focal length and crop sensor as separate subjects with links so it does not become war and peace or overly techie first time out.

If you need anything else writing Robert, let me know, I can always go and look it up! :)
 
I'd include things like focal length and crop sensor as separate subjects with links so it does not become war and peace or overly techie first time out.

I agree.. to be honest I still don't understand about all that.. It might be worth a section such as "Do I need to worry about "crop sensor"? with a summary rather than in depth.
 
I suggested doing something like this over a year or so ago, however the idea was considered not worthy and was shot down in flames...:shrug:

Ho hum... :)
 
I suggested doing something like this over a year or so ago, however the idea was considered not worthy and was shot down in flames...:shrug:

Ho hum... :)

I must have missed that. Can you give me a couple of lines on the Olympus system for the list of available makers? I don't know what lenses can be used (old ones need adaptor? do all models take the same style (no efs or ef type limitations?))etc.
 
Hi Rob - of course, no probs.

I am off out for the day soon and unfortunately have some decorating to do tomorrow (I hate decorating), but I'll gladly put a few lines together for ya.
 
Given it a first quick edit. Will put in more of the details already contributed when I get time.
 
The foundations look good.

It just sprung to mind that I hadn't realised (or given it much thought) that a DSLR is unlikely to have a Video mode.
 
Hi Rob - of course, no probs.

I am off out for the day soon and unfortunately have some decorating to do tomorrow (I hate decorating), but I'll gladly put a few lines together for ya.

Thanks. I've added some text for Canon now as an example of what is needed for the other makes.

Any more brand owners reading?

I don't know about Nikon and its with or without motors in the lens thing? - or any of the other makes come to that. Some (one?) use Nikon mounts I think Fuji? help me out here ;)
 
Bit more typed in!

proof readers and contributors wanted ;)
 
Canon 450D - Live view info
Disables some custom functions (Mirror lockup, shutter/AE Lock button, Set button when shooting)
May give a false indication of colours and brightness

Cons of using the viewfinder: A half camera shaped sunburn on your face after spending a day taking pics in the sun :LOL:
 
There is lots of good stuff here but there is a big danger of providing too much detail for a newbie and also a risk of getting into the differences and pros and cons of different brands. The article would be better served giving generic advice than specific camera manufacturer specifications, features etc.

As a recent newbie to the DSLR world and having made a few mistakes and learnt a lot, the following are the key questions for me and the items to cover briefly. It's impossible to answer every question in an article and it's better to give a simple to follow and understand starting guide and let people ask more specific questions if they need to in the forum. It may then be possible to construct a 'FAQ' from these over time later.

Quetions:

What is a DSLR and what is the difference between a DSLR and a point and shoot camera ?

- The difference in construction / the physical differences
- The ability to expand / change / develop
- The difference in picture taking e.g. depth of field

What is the difference between buying a DSLR and a point and shoot camera ?

- The concept of buying into a system over the long-term not short term
- The choices of lenses and the different types and their applications/uses.
- The flash options available and how these can can be expanded
- The use of filters, tripods and other added accessories
- The need for transportation e.g. bags and straps

What are the different levels of SLR and their essential differences including example cameras ?

- Consumer
- Pro-sumer
- Semi-pro
- Professional

How should I go about buying the camera ?

- Defining what the camera will be used for and appropriate selection of equipment (e.g. motorsport, landscape, portrait etc)
- The visit to the camera shop to hold and feel the camera and get good advice in person
- The merits of buying new versus used DLSR
- The expansion options within the given brands' systems
- The pros and cons of buying a DSLR with or without aa kit lens
- Getting the best deal and the best service

The rest should be down to a good camera shop in my humble opinion and the marketing machines of the various manufacturers...
 
Defiance, I do want to avoid recommending any make or model and keep it general. I don't have a new users point of view so all input like this is welcome.

I wasn't planning on mentioning any specific models beyond saying what lens type goes with a makers cameras. guess that whole section could go if need be?

Some of your points are covered already and some others can be added. As you say it is all a matter of judging how far to go for best advice and least information overload!

All input welcomed :)
 
A little help from me

Buying Advice

A very important issue to consider when entering any hobby is cost.

This can be separated into two categories: - Initial purchase and Long term cost.

The initial purchase will cover everything you will need to get out taking pictures and can be classed as the ESSENTIALS. The long term cost will cover items which will make the taking of the pictures easier and maybe enhancing the quality of images. Despite what we may tell our loved ones, there is a difference between ‘need’ and ‘want’ but we all like to have that extra gadget and will think of any excuse for it’s subsequent usage. These are the NON ESSENTIALS.

ESSENTIALS

Camera
Lens
Memory Card
Battery
Camera Bag


NON ESSENTIALS

Backup Camera
Extra Lenses
Spare Memory Cards
Spare Batteries
Battery Grips
Cleaning Kits
Tripods/Heads
Flash Units
Studio Equipment


Obviously the Non Essential list can go on a lot longer and all items could include the main types of photography that would benefit from the addition. I'll add more and go into more depth if required.

HTH
 
Added a section for links at the end. Also put in a reminder to say what is essential to get started.
 
Rewrote the Modes para to make it read better (hope it does).

Modes. DSLR cameras can have mode settings similar to those on compacts like sports or portrait etc. these modes guide the auto exposure systems' choices of settings when taking the shot. They can help you get started but the DSLR offers much more functionality than most compacts and, while you can leave everything on automatic if you want, you can improve your photography and your understanding of photography by exploring the manual settings for yourself. One setting you won't find on a DSLR is 'Macro' as this is not a camera setting but something that's built into some SLR lenses.
 
I've added some stuff to the going to a shop bit... but there must be more that should be there?
 
When I decided to upgrade from a point and shoot, I read all the photography magazines I could lay my hands on for a few months, before narrowing down my selection. I found this very useful.

Then I went to a shop and tried a few out. My initial ideas changed once I held a couple.
 
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