Hmm, time to dump flickr and finally build my own website?

@mickledore My videos will be going on Youtube. As for Flickr I waste enough money on domains I don't use so ill probably ditch those and stick to Flickr for another year whilst I make up my mind what to do. I have some space on Tshost so maybe time to use that.
 
So this year I'll lose 3000 photos on Flickr that I'm not bothered about apart from marvelling at the stats. On the upside, I'll be the Sterling equivalent of $50 per year better off
 
ChrisH said:
@mickledore My videos will be going on Youtube. As for Flickr I waste enough money on domains I don't use so ill probably ditch those and stick to Flickr for another year whilst I make up my mind what to do. I have some space on Tshost so maybe time to use that.
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Ok. At least I thought of you!!!
 
I have 14,500 photos, I already have an album called 'Everything' which only has about 8700 photos in...

I'm pretty sure last time I tried to down that album as a zip i was unsuccessful - even now trying to open the album in Flickr organiser to add the rest it just says 'loading album'

It's not going to be straight forward to download the images..
 
dancook said:
I have 14,500 photos, I already have an album called 'Everything' which only has about 8700 photos in...

I'm pretty sure last time I tried to down that album as a zip i was unsuccessful - even now trying to open the album in Flickr organiser to add the rest it just says 'loading album'

It's not going to be straight forward to download the images..
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Don't quote me on this but I think you can get external software to download your images.
 
T_J_G said:
Don't quote me on this but I think you can get external software to download your images.
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Just tried and it says - We can only process albums with fewer than 5,000 photos. Please use Camera Roll or Organizr to create smaller albums or to remove photos from this one, then try again

Maybe I can do this in three batches ok, otherwise I can look out for third party software thanks
 
I see this too on the Flickr forum. If you're over 1k, you won't be able to upload a thing from 8/1/19



In my post opening the topic, I said: "Free members with more than 1,000 photos and/or videos uploaded to Flickr have until Tuesday, January 8, 2019, to upgrade to Pro or download content over that limit.

After January 8, 2019, members over the limit will no longer be able to upload new photos to Flickr.

After February 5, 2019, Free accounts that contain over 1,000 photos and/or videos will have content actively deleted—starting from oldest to newest date uploaded—to meet the new limit."
 
1,000 seems a very low limit - although it's 1,000 more than photobucket (remember them?) allowed when they stopped free hosting and linking.

I'm less than 20 away from the limit. So I'm going to have to look for an alternative it seems. I don't think it's worthwhile paying a yearly fee just to link my photos to a couple of forums.
 
droj said:
A mystery to me why anyone would want 1,000 photos on Flickr. For storage? Home storage is easy and cheap. For people to look at? Surely no-one is going to scroll through 1,000 images. As a free image library? Why should that be free?

There must be ways of using Flickr that I haven't thought of. So how does each of you use Flickr?
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I use flickr to contribute to local parkrun flickr groups - I believe parkrun uses the platform on a national (UK) scale:

https://www.flickr.com/groups/wimbledon-common-parkrun/
https://www.flickr.com/groups/richmond-parkrun/
https://www.flickr.com/groups/wimbledonpark-juniors-parkrun/

flickr has been a great platform for this in my opinion, although I have experienced frequent upload issues that can take more than 2 days to sort out.

I also have a smugmug account where I keep private photos so not sure what to do at this point really. FWIW smugmug upload seems to be a lot more bulletproof and performant.
 
Does anyone know what the storage limit on free will be? I seem to remember 1gig from somewhere but there is nothing about it on the extortion message page.

I've got only 260 photos up but using 2.6 gig. :(:(:(
 
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I have around 7000 plus images on there , unless something comes along very quickly in the way of a acceptable alternative then it looks like going pro is the only way , I used to have a pro account till Melissa Mayer f***ed it all up by reaching out to kids with I.phones and soft porn barons ,sometimes hard porn to . So if this takes it back to what it was then it’s worth giving it a year
 
the black fox said:
unless something comes along very quickly in the way of a acceptable alternative then it looks like going pro is the only way
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They seem to know this and seems to think they have us by the short and curlies.
I'm still searching ....
 
1478, damn it! Didn't even realise I had that many images on there. Jan 8th is the deadline to download your surplus images, hopefully someone finds a decent alternative by then
 
I've had the Pro account since I joined it in 2008 but the other week I decided not to continue due to the massive price hike.

Now I've looked at the pro's and con's I've just re-subscribed at the 30% offer. So in a way I've kind of saved money. I think :confused:
 
I notice that 500px is about $48 for the first year, then $60 after that for 'awesome' account, $72 first year then $120 after that for pro. Ipernity is 48 euro, and doesn't have such a good showcase for images. 50 bucks for a year of Flickr is starting to look about the going rate.
 
7,287 photos on there for me!! I just use it for sharing & hosting really. There isn't much of a 'community' like there used to be many years ago.

I'm not paying $50 a year for Pro I know that much!
 
I’ve been Pro for years, although I mainly use it for iPhone photos these days.

However it is good to have my keepers backed up in high res.
 
Even if I cleaned out my account entirely I would probably fill that 1000 up within a year . It’s catch 22 we need them and they know it . Maybe this will clear the crap off it though and start to rebuild it with proper photographers , I can’t find any mention of this on there though , have you had e.mails or what?
 
ancient_mariner said:
Ipernity ... doesn't have such a good showcase for images.
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???? It used to look rather similar to Flickr.

And Google + has gone, of course. Which was a limp rag anyway.

I don't know why we should expect anything for nothing. Sometimes we get lucky, & something's 'free'. But it's not our 'right' to have it. You can't always get what you want ... (cue the music).
 
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One of the features of Flickr I particularly like is the ability to use a simple subset of html script in your descriptions of your photographs, e.g. you can make your own labelled links to other Flickr photographs, to albums, to explanatory websites, and so on. Using this you can construct illustrated narratives, tutorials, and so on.
 
It would seem that a lot of folk are up in arms because a business is cutting it's FREE accounts limits, a Pro account even after the price rise is less than a pound a week as far as I'm aware, I shoot with a £1400 camera, £1300 lens, £75 shoulder strap, on top of that I have tripods, older bodies, a dozen lenses, 4 flashes, bags etc etc etc and I'm no means a big spender on my hobby, do you see were I'm going :)
 
chris malcolm said:
One of the features of Flickr I particularly like is the ability to use a simple subset of html script in your descriptions of your photographs, e.g. you can make your own labelled links to other Flickr photographs, to albums, to explanatory websites, and so on. Using this you can construct illustrated narratives, tutorials, and so on.
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Could you expand on that a bit, Chris, since it sounds useful but isn't obviously accessible?
 
droj said:
I don't know why we should expect anything for nothing. Sometimes we get lucky, & something's 'free'. But it's not our 'right' to have it.
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Completely agree. However I don't feel like I'm getting value for money with their pro offering. I don't expect something for nothing, but neither do I want to give them fifty bucks for what they're offering. I was hoping for something a bit more exciting than "what you used to have for twice the price".

The free option is still good for my purposes and I'll just delete old stuff to clear space. But they need to come up with something more tempting to get me to buy a subscription.
 
wanilson said:
It would seem that a lot of folk are up in arms because a business is cutting it's FREE accounts limits, a Pro account even after the price rise is less than a pound a week as far as I'm aware, I shoot with a £1400 camera, £1300 lens, £75 shoulder strap, on top of that I have tripods, older bodies, a dozen lenses, 4 flashes, bags etc etc etc and I'm no means a big spender on my hobby, do you see were I'm going :)
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Yes, but some of us are on a low budget. That doesn't mean that we are less serious about our photography, or have less need to share it.
 
I'm personally not bothered by the 1000 limit. It is all about showcase of the best or the more recent and drawing new people to your own platform.

But this is where it gets interesting and I've not made my mind up about it yet. At first it sounds pretty harsh, and well the other way it is going to cost $$. They also said something like they will prioritise all images from "pro" accounts in some way, and also this will cut a lot of crap out and stop many uploading random or poor quality things. So it is going to become almost self curated and filtered. ie. it will showcase better quality work just like it was at the beginning. And it might be a lot easier to get seen by someone looking for decent images to buy. This worked great at the very beginning before Yahoo.

Basically, flickr has been useless to me in the last 2-3 years due to plurality of crap images. If it helps to gain new customers again I would make the fee back just in a single sale. And that is a big IF. It could also be too little too late for them.

Alternatives - instagram, which I truly hate and can't understand. Twitter? Facebook? Thats probably even worse. 500px - well that's now Chi-com / getty joint venture that's been strangely useless to me from day 1. Probably they shadow ban all free accounts... it makes sense. So it is instagram or flickr really.

There is of course 50% off smugmug account too. But with high processing fees this is probably even worse than Zenfolio. Unless you just magically start getting more traffic back and forth in which case it would be worth it.

Adobe - probably useful, but you can bet Amazon will have a black friday or something special again that will beat any offer like this.
 
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They also said something like they will prioritise all images from "pro" accounts in some way, and also this will cut a lot of crap out and stop many uploading random or poor quality things.
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A very nebulous assumption I think on your part. To think that people will self-curate in accord with the common good or some higher goal is altruistic beyond belief! Equally, Flickr itself (being a business) will presumably operate on some variant of the Murdoch model, which is all about bums on seats and bugger the quality of the information.
 
droj said:
A very nebulous assumption I think on your part. To think that people will self-curate in accord with the common good or some higher goal is altruistic beyond belief! Equally, Flickr itself (being a business) will presumably operate on some variant of the Murdoch model, which is all about bums on seats and bugger the quality of the information.
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That's one way to look at it, but believe me the 1000 limit will delete millions of images overnight and that will be the "curation" on quite a level! After that most phone snappers will run straight to instagram and never look back. Probably even close the accounts. So yes, that will all be chaos but the end result will be overall far higher better production value content, unless that kills smugmug / flickr altogether and this is a likely outcome.
 
wanilson said:
It would seem that a lot of folk are up in arms because a business is cutting it's FREE accounts limits, a Pro account even after the price rise is less than a pound a week as far as I'm aware, I shoot with a £1400 camera, £1300 lens, £75 shoulder strap, on top of that I have tripods, older bodies, a dozen lenses, 4 flashes, bags etc etc etc and I'm no means a big spender on my hobby, do you see were I'm going :)
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It all adds up for people on a budget. Gear is a luxury for most, and if worst comes to worst you can always sell it on if you're stuck - I'm already forking out for LR and online storage outside of Flickr, might only be a few more quid for Flickr but ... who's next? TP? would you stick around on here if they started charging a few quid a week?
 
droj said:
???? It used to look rather similar to Flickr.
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Yes, but flickr used to look like poo - there was a time when, if someone hosted photos on flickr, that I wouldn't even visit the site to look. Ipernity isn't that bad, but it's very 'early 2000s' in design.
 
droj said:
But most of what's left will still be largely crap. The proportion of crap won't have altered. Just the overall quantity of everything.

That's history, Toni. Our concern is now!
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I don't really have the numbers. I guess they have had one of these big name financial adviser companies that did the math and made the suggestion to go this way. Some companies quickly went bust after doing similar. Imagebrief comes to mind. I knew this would happen to them on day 1 but here I'm not sure.

Case 1 scenario. Let's say there are 10 : 1 crap vs "pro" accounts, and 5 crap ones have less than 100 images, the other 5 - 10,000. Pro one has 2000. Post change the first 5 and the pro will remain unaffected while the latter 5 will get culled. The "pro" content comes out from minority position to being dominant.

Case 2 scenario. Same as above but the "pro" packs up and leaves. Dormant accounts are now in the majority. I wouldn't want to be their CEO or a shareholder in that case. Flickr is sold again at cut price to another investment firm. Or maybe the doors shut for good.

Case 3 - something in between 1 and 2.
 
JayJay said:
1,000 seems a very low limit
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Maybe you have forgotten, or don’t know, that free Flickr accounts used to be limited to 200 photos. Unlimited photos for free accounts was introduced only in May 2013.
 
If you have been using Flickr since day one , your whole photography journey is on there . I doubt that within the time period given anyone will be able to find a free alternative . So basically if you wish to preserve your history you got to pay ,they have us by the b*****ks and are squeezing hard .

I use it not only as a display case but as a time line , I.e I can look back on there to see what month /week a species appeared in previous years to save wasted journeys etc or to go back and pull out a old shot to illustrate a modern post . There is no alternative the money will have to be found in my case ,once most of the moaners have thought it out they will come to the same conclusion , it’s simply a case of pay up or shut up , but wish I had shares in smugmug
 
Last night I created two albums, 2017 / 2018

Using the camera roll I filled them with about 2500 images each (remember you can only download 5000 in a single request ). I used select all as I went from date to date.. Can't do whole months or years.

I went to download the albums. It took 12 hours to generate the zip.

So just keep in mind it won't be a speedy process
 
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