ID Confirmation please. *Confirmed*

[gramps]

I think that this is a Mediterranean Gull but there are a couple of things about it that make me have doubts ... what do you think?

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[markyboy.1967]

Gramps as you know the med gull has the black head and bright red beak , not 100% sure as I'm not great with gulls.

 

[Phil-D]

I agree Roger.....................definitely a gull!


I struggle with gulls (like many other birds ) but I would say, after looking on the internet, it looks like a Mediterranean Gull, possibly an older juvenile/young adult with having the black tail??

What makes you think otherwise Roger?

 

[gramps]

What makes you think otherwise Roger?

The black head going down the back further than the Black-headed Gull and the white above & below the eye shout Mediterranean Gull but the black tips to the wings and the lack of a black tip to the beak have me wondering.

 

[Kodiak Qc]

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It is not the Black Headed Gull who's
black area doesn't reach so far back.

 

[gramps]

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It is not the Black Headed Gull who's
black area doesn't reach so far back.

Yes I agree Daniel, it's just the black wing tips and lack of a black beak tip that puzzles me.

 

[wezza13]

Photo popped up first, on my phone, and I immediately thought Med Gull.

 

[RacingSnake]

At first I said med gull....

but actually, I'm thinking blackheaded gull (as per RSPB site).
http://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wi...-guides/bird-a-z/b/blackheadedgull/index.aspx

it is a close one though!!

 

[gramps]

it is a close one though!!

It is, I'm still edging toward Med Gull but ...

 

[ChrisE500]

I'm pretty sure this is a Med Gull. The Black-headed Gull actually has more of a brown head than black and the colour doesn't extend as far back down its neck.

Chris

 

[Nod]

http://www.gull-research.org/melanos/med05cy.html makes me think Mediterranean rather than Black Headed.

 

[RacingSnake]

It is, I'm still edging toward Med Gull but ...

I'm going back to Med gull - we had 3 at our local lake, and the photos that have gone up have black wingtips like yours.

 

[gramps]

I'm going back to Med gull - we had 3 at our local lake, and the photos that have gone up have black wingtips like yours.

That's helpful, thanks.

 

[john.margetts]

Med. gulls have all white wings. If people are posting pictures of gulls with black in the wings, they are not Med. gulls.

 

[Mikechappers]

Its a Black Headed Gull

 

[gramps]

It's a 2nd Summer Mediterranean Gull (according to Senior Warden WWT).

 

[JohnC6]

Glad that's sorted,then Fine shot,Roger.

I've just put up one with my warbler photo asking for ID. It's actually quite interesting reading all the contributions when an ID is questioned.

 

[Stuart Philpott]

Got to second John's comment Roger it's a lovely image and really interesting to do some reading on as well as what John said about the comments. Mate I didn't even know of a med gull,so got an education here. many thanks!!

Kiddo any chance of getting more detail into the black head? and I'd like the frame a smidgen down wards,for his/her feet.

Roger cool thank you,I searched high and low and couldn't get a complete ID hence the slow comment on my part

stu

 

[gramps]

Got to second John's comment Roger it's a lovely image and really interesting to do some reading on as well as what John said about the comments. Mate I didn't even know of a med gull,so got an education here. many thanks!!

Kiddo any chance of getting more detail into the black head? and I'd like the frame a smidgen down wards,for his/her feet.

Roger cool thank you,I searched high and low and couldn't get a complete ID hence the slow comment on my part

stu

Thanks Stu, it's not really a 'show' image so just presented for iD query ... missed focus on its head so it's soft.

 

[Stuart Philpott]

Thanks Stu, it's not really a 'show' image so just presented for iD query ... missed focus on its head so it's soft.

I've spent ages tonight looking at IQ specifically sharpness in images posted here. But, I didn't spot that mate,back to the drawing board huh

thanks buddy