IPS monitors

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Think I've managed to convince myself into buying a IPS monitor to get better colour reproduction of my photos in Adobe Lightroom.

Budget is around £400 and so far know of the following:
HP LP2475w
Dell U2410

What other options are there please in this price range?

Any other comments in general about IPS monitors welcome :thumbs:

Thanks,
Chris
 
I've got the hp you mention and I've also got the new model zr24 which is a standard gamut monitor and actually has a nicer image than the LP24. Both are great though and have masses of connectivity.
 
Tom
When you speak about standard gamut monitor, could you explain a little, i have looked at this monitor, it is £100 cheaper than the Lp version,i do not get my head round all techy stuff. Can we use Adobe RGB colour space, or srgb, there are small differences in these 2 monitors technically, but beyond me!!! TIA
 
Basically the LP shows AbobeRGB as standard, so shows more colours, however you can set it to SRGB. The ZR doesn't support adobe RGB, so its default is SRGB.

In the real word, we only tend to use SRGB for photography anyway unless we are sending off to some photo printing services who require adobe RGB or are printing high quality prints ourselves, but I think they are the minority, so the wider gamut isnt essential. In my experience with the two side by side, the LP tends to lean more towards the red and is slightly more saturated, the ZR seems more natural.
Thats pretty much the only difference between the two.
Its up to you which you think you need more. Personally I get no benefit from having the wide gamut monitor, and my prints come out as I expect them too. I use Lightroom and have both monitors set up on the same PC, so on one I have the standard LR program and on the other screen I have the full 1:1 image that is a live image which updates as you edit. I switch the images between the two monitors to get a good overall result, but I tend to use the ZR colours more than the LP's.
 
Thank you, i really appreciate your reply Tom. Did you calibrate the ZR? I read a bit somewhere it was good straight out of the box.
 
Ive calibrated them both yeah. I cant recall what it looked like, but it was 2nd hand anyhow, so wont have been "as new".
 
Thanks Tom for sharing your experience with both types of monitor. Appreciated.
 
Slightly over budget but there's a new Hazro 27" IPS screen.
 
for that budget 2x dell U2311h referb's via ebay! Load of screen space.
thats what i ended up with.
 
If you don't mind searching/waiting, the U2311H's have gone for £160 second hand, so you could get 2 of those for £320. I paid £260 for my one a little after release!
 
I've got a Dell 2209WA - really happy with it, pretty good value on eBay these days.
 
I've got the HP LP2475w and am very happy with it, but seeing as it's my first decent monitor I don't really have much to make a comparison with.
 
Well I have just ordered a new HP ZR24w monitor, so I will give you a update next week on it's performance.
 
A word of warning about wide gamut monitors. They are great for photo editing, but not so good for non-colour managed applications. Viewing websites can be a pain because colours look over saturated. I bought an LP2475w. I just couldn't get used to it because I used other software that was non-colour manged, so I sold it and bought a standard gamut monitor (Viewsonic VP2365) which cost me around £200.00 and now I'm a very happy bunny.
 
I use two monitors on my Set up, 17in CRT is my main screen for Photoshop editing, whilst the second flat screen houses all of my Photoshop tools, plus internet browser.
 
Metal God said:
A word of warning about wide gamut monitors. They are great for photo editing, but not so good for non-colour managed applications. Viewing websites can be a pain because colours look over saturated. I bought an LP2475w. I just couldn't get used to it because I used other software that was non-colour manged, so I sold it and bought a standard gamut monitor (Viewsonic VP2365) which cost me around £200.00 and now I'm a very happy bunny.
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That's the good thing about having a lp2475 and the zr24. Best of both worlds!
 
Just unpacked and installed my new HP ZR24w monitor, it is superb being able to look at images from all angles and the images stays at the same brightness, plus there is now more room on my Desk. Colour calibration was only a small bit out from the box, as others has already commented on. So I'm pleased with my purchase, does anyone want a big CRT screen.
 
I got a 2209WA Dell but its useless to me as I need to find out how to calibrate it - I guess I need to buy a hardware unit? The colours are WAY to strong. Brightness I've turned right down along with contrast but its so different to my other Dell monitor (not IPS) and my laptops that it's pointless to use at present :(

So in summary budget for a hardware calibrator.
 
Are there any monitors that can do wide gamut just for specific applications and show the rest as sRGB, all in the same desktop?

I'm finding the whole thing a dilemma as I feel sRGB is just a compromise for poor quality displays we've had for decades, and we have to live with it because virtually no one uses anything other than sRGB. I just feel I'm missing out in photo quality if I don't stick with Adobe RGB, but with a wide gamut monitor I understand I'll have problems with anything other than photos as everything is done for sRGB.

I've always shot Adobe RGB to allow for full potential with prints and for some day our displays to go wide gamut, but it seems that may never happen. It's a pain because I have to convert to sRGB for web.

Or should I just give up and go with sRGB all the way? In which case is there much point in a wide gamut monitor? Or are operating systems likely to adopt wide gamut in the near future? I've heard Windows 7 has some support for it, but not sure how much.

Was thinking of a Dell U2410 or similar but concerned about the wide gamut issues. I understand this can switch between Adobe RGB and sRGB but I think it doesn't do both at the same time (i.e. in one desktop), you have to flick a switch or something to change modes?

Would I be better off with a pure sRGB IPS panel?
 
Why do you feel that a wide-gamut monitor will be a problem? They show everything a narrow-gamut monitor can do...just with more available!

always have the highest quality you can - if other people have lesser quality, that's their problem not yours...
 
The problem from everything I've read is the normal desktop, most apps, and the entire web are over saturated on a wide gamut monitor. Apps and operating systems that aren't colour aware it seems don't show the correct colour from the range, even though it's there. Or something like that. Just about everything on computers and the Internet has been designed for sRGB only, including the operating system.

That other people have lesser quality does become a problem because you are forced with sRGB for most things (and not just photos, the rendering of applications are affected, videos, games). If you used colour aware apps only, are just editing photos for proofing and print, and never interacted with anyone on the Internet, then there's no problem.

Or to put it better than I have: http://www.brucepercy.co.uk/blog/2010/05/22/wide-gamut-displays/
 
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