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Hi all

Sorry for adding to the endless list of what kit should I buy threads, but I am at a loss.

My pal wants to start out in landscapes, but needs buying advice. He has borrowed one of my D3s but this is was out of his budget and has some cracking results. I use a d3 and a d4 for my weddings.

His budget is £1000, he has filters and my old tripod.
I was thinking of the following,

Nikon d700 and sigma 24-70 (but would need to buy carefully)

Or
canon 5d classic and maybe 2 sigma lenses.

Then I was thinking what about recommending a aps-c sensor camera such as the d300/d7000? Or even a lower camera with a great sensor such as the d5200?
Or even go radical and opt for d200/fuji 5 and a much better lens? I mean the d200 was a great camera at base ISO until a new one came along wasn't it?

What do people think? Brand is not an issue,
I think he probably would sell a few if he wanted to, so print quality kit is a must.

Any pointers would be great
 
You can obviously get very good results with an aps-c sensor camera but if IQ is the ultimate priority full frame is the way to go imo.

5D & 17-40mm or 24-105mm would probably be my starting choice and should be possible for that budget... or you could probably pick up a 5D mk2 & lens for about £200 more

I've always used Canon so don't know how the D700 compares
 
I'd recommend that he goes with a highish spec APSC, despite the fact I'm about to buy a Nikon D800.

APSC are capable of producing excellent landscape shots and costs are much lower to get started, if he buys a good spec brand, resale values will be good if he decides that FF is necessary for him..a great choice at the moment would be the Pentax K5, great dynamic range, weather sealed, great build and been given away really for £449

http://www.srsmicrosystems.co.uk/5495/Pentax-K5-Body---SPECIAL-OFFER---MORE-DUE-6TH-AUGUST-2013.html

Simon
 
simonkit said:
I'd recommend that he goes with a highish spec APSC, despite the fact I'm about to buy a Nikon D800.

APSC are capable of producing excellent landscape shots and costs are much lower to get started, if he buys a good spec brand, resale values will be good if he decides that FF is necessary for him..a great choice at the moment would be the Pentax K5, great dynamic range, weather sealed, great build and been given away really for £449

http://www.srsmicrosystems.co.uk/5495/Pentax-K5-Body---SPECIAL-OFFER---MORE-DUE-6TH-AUGUST-2013.html

Simon
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Yeah that maybe an idea, but I would recommend he stays with canon/nikon as used kit is always available.
 
andyscott said:
Yeah that maybe an idea, but I would recommend he stays with canon/nikon as used kit is always available.
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There's 40yrs worth of high quality used Pentax prime lenses available as well as the more up to date lenses, not find a C or N with the same build and features for this cash either, real bargain at the moment
 
5D and 17-40mm would be my choice along with a good tripod and head

Results from that combo are in my opinion better than when I used a 40D and 10-22mm (APS-C combo)
 
andyscott said:
Or even a lower camera with a great sensor such as the d5200?
Or even go radical and opt for d200/fuji 5 and a much better lens? I mean the d200 was a great camera at base ISO until a new one came along wasn't it?
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Think this is what I'd be tempted to do if it were me. A D200 is a great camera capable of superb images with the right lens in front and a skilled pair of hands.

A D200 is >£200 these days. That leaves £800 to invest in either a top lens or even a very good lens and a day or two of tuition. I think either route would ultimately yield better results than blowing nearly all the budget on a body. So my vote would be a D200 and a used Zeiss 18mm or 21mm. Or if being much more sensible, a D200 and a Tamron 17-50 and then blow the rest on a couple of trips to make the most of them.

If it is to be FF, a D700 and a Nikon 20mm or 24mm 2.8 AIS prime is a lovely combination.
 
The jury is still out on this one, looks like he will opt for canon 5d and a good lens.

I will look at the Pentax for him more as seems a great package for the money.
 
justinminns said:
You can obviously get very good results with an aps-c sensor camera but if IQ is the ultimate priority full frame is the way to go imo.

5D & 17-40mm or 24-105mm would probably be my starting choice and should be possible for that budget... or you could probably pick up a 5D mk2 & lens for about £200 more

I've always used Canon so don't know how the D700 compares
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5D vs D700

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon_EOS_5D-vs-Nikon_D700

5D MII vs D700

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon_EOS_5D_Mark_II-vs-Nikon_D700


just a general comparison.
 
just like my post indicated, it's just a general comparison. From all full specs OP can see what's what.
 
andyscott said:
Hi all

Sorry for adding to the endless list of what kit should I buy threads, but I am at a loss.

My pal wants to start out in landscapes, but needs buying advice. He has borrowed one of my D3s but this is was out of his budget and has some cracking results. I use a d3 and a d4 for my weddings.

His budget is £1000, he has filters and my old tripod.
I was thinking of the following,

Nikon d700 and sigma 24-70 (but would need to buy carefully)

Or
canon 5d classic and maybe 2 sigma lenses.

Then I was thinking what about recommending a aps-c sensor camera such as the d300/d7000? Or even a lower camera with a great sensor such as the d5200?
Or even go radical and opt for d200/fuji 5 and a much better lens? I mean the d200 was a great camera at base ISO until a new one came along wasn't it?

What do people think? Brand is not an issue,
I think he probably would sell a few if he wanted to, so print quality kit is a must.

Any pointers would be great
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Works for me. No other APSC can touch it for Dynamic range or colour, filters aren't necessary most of the time. It does struggle for resolution though compared to traditional sensors which may be an issue if you want to print extra large (no problem for canvas though). :thumbs:
 
Alan Clogwyn said:
Works for me. No other APSC can touch it for Dynamic range or colour, filters aren't necessary most of the time. It does struggle for resolution though compared to traditional sensors which may be an issue if you want to print extra large (no problem for canvas though). :thumbs:
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used to have Fuji S5 PRO. Superb camera. Only reason I sold it needed something with higher FPS...:(
 
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