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Daughter No.1 is in the process of going through a Level 3 Diploma training course in make-up artistry.
As part of the course, she is required to produce some photographic examples of her work to then put in a portfolio.
The course lecturer has recommended a Neewer® Dimmable 18" Diameter 75W (600W equivalent ) Camera Photo Studio 5500K Ring Fluorescent Flash Light Lighting Kit as seen here

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dimmable-e...=1493640381&sr=8-4&keywords=neewer+ring+light

Does anyone have any experience with this light or alternatively, would you be able to recommend a suitable alternative around the same price (£100) , please?

Thanks in advance for your help
 
I haven't seen this particular product and don't know who actually makes it, but it seems OK for her needs.
I very much doubt whether it will reproduce colours accurately, but as long as it is the ONLY light source, this can be corrected in post processing.

If she has a flashgun, then this might be a better bet, and cheaper. https://www.lencarta.com/atom-speedlight-ring-flash-adapter
Also available from other suppliers.
 
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Definitely a better idea than the LED models
— they may bring some elements of solution
but there are some drawbacks as well.

Alternative solution could be a BD with flash as
the flash may be used in many other ways.
 
thanks both, for your thoughts and advice.

My daughter doesn't have a flashgun and I understand that she would prefer to have continuous light. I have absolutely no experience of studio work, so can't offer her any advice here. Now, if she wanted to shoot Bolton Wanderers v Fleetwood Town, that would be different :D. I will be able to help her with post processing, however. I picked up a DataColor card from somewhere along my travels that may be of use for when it comes to post processing

By the way, Kodiak, what's a BD?
 
The datacolor card may help. However, the problem isn't comparing colours so much as adding magenta; despite claims made by sellers, LED lights do not reproduce all colours correctly, simply because they are discontinuous spectrum lights that do not include magenta. As a result, reds tend to photograph as orange, orange as yellow and so on.

Actually, it would be cheaper to buy your daughter a cheap flashgun and use the ringflash adapter I linked to, than to buy that LED light. The colours would then reproduce correctly and there would no other problems, e.g. having to use a very high ISO because of the limited power of the LED light, and it would be useful for other things too.

BTW, "BD" is beauty dish, a specialist tool used by fashion photographers to create the right type of shadows in the right places, and fitted to a studio flash head. It's a useful tool, but a specialised one.
 
nigpd said:
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Daughter No.1 is in the process of going through a Level 3 Diploma training course in make-up artistry.
As part of the course, she is required to produce some photographic examples of her work to then put in a portfolio.
The course lecturer has recommended a Neewer® Dimmable 18" Diameter 75W (600W equivalent ) Camera Photo Studio 5500K Ring Fluorescent Flash Light Lighting Kit as seen here

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dimmable-e...=1493640381&sr=8-4&keywords=neewer+ring+light

Does anyone have any experience with this light or alternatively, would you be able to recommend a suitable alternative around the same price (£100) , please?

Thanks in advance for your help
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From what you've said she wants, and the tutor's recommendation, I'd say that was just the job - she can see exactly what she's getting and can use it with any camera or phone-cam. It'll make an excellent working light too and they use something similar in many beauticians' studios.

Colour might not be absolutely accurate (let it warm up for a couple of minutes) but should be plenty good enough with your post-processing help - just get her to include a white-balance card in a reference shot. It's big enough to shoot through and get some slightly different angles, and will be bright enough at close distance. The stand and flexi-arm look handy (y)

Edit: I suspect her tutor will be more interested in the make-up than the photographic aspects, but she could also get some more interesting results with a little thought that'll look good in her portfolio. Basically, just tell her about the inverse-square law to lighten or darken the background for a different mood, and changing the angle of the light and the distance for a bit of modelling on the face. Also tell her about basic exposure adjustment and compensation to get the result she's after :)
 
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nigpd said:
what's a BD?
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BD = beauty dish.

Garry Edwards said:
a specialist tool used by fashion photographers to create the right type of shadows in the right places, and fitted to a studio flash head. It's a useful tool, but a specialised one.
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  • Indeed but once the modifier is off, there is still
    the full utility of the flash… which is irrelevant
    since continuous light is wanted
  • The effect of the BD is revealed at close range
    (portrait) rather than full figure.
 
thanks all for the benefit of your wisdom. Daughter will interrogate the tutor a bit more on the photography aspects and how important this is at the moment. I think in the future when Daughter wants to build her business, her portfolio will become more important and the quality of photographic output will be that much more. I think the bank of Daddy better stand by :(.

Be prepared for some more questions on this forum methinks :)
 
nigpd said:
thanks all for the benefit of your wisdom. Daughter will interrogate the tutor a bit more on the photography aspects and how important this is at the moment. I think in the future when Daughter wants to build her business, her portfolio will become more important and the quality of photographic output will be that much more. I think the bank of Daddy better stand by :(.

Be prepared for some more questions on this forum methinks :)
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My daughter works part-time helping out a friend who runs a very busy beauty studio - on Saturday mornings it's full of brides-to-be and all hands on deck. She's built the business pretty much through word of mouth and social media, but wants some big wall-art photos as studio decor and that's something I'd love to have a go at. If/when that happens, I'll probably use a RoundFlash (same as the product Garry linked earlier) or maybe a small softbox or beauty dish. But I also fancy having a go with that circular fluorescent ring light your daughter has been recommended. If nothing else, the catchlights would be interesting and the stand looks like a Manfrotto Nanostand clone that'd definitely come in handy :)

Edit: one of the things I like about continuous light for portraits is it closes down the pupils so you can really see the colour of the eyes. That doesn't happen with flash, unless you have a bright modelling lamp on max and at close distance.
 
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Re the above, I'm tempted by one of these lights for beauty photography. The one linked by the OP has a fluorescent tube, this one:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01DXKP8GY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A3H1KL2PTEXAP1&psc=1

But there are also a lot of very similar LED options, same 18in size and about the same price, such as this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01JUCNHP8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1OFOAOTB9DRPX&th=1

Would anyone like to hazard guess as to which one would be brightest and have the better colour? Any flickering problems with these things at high shutter speeds?
 
Actually I've used said product and it's damn good tbh. So good in fact that I'm going to get one once I'm through buying new bodies, lenses and a portable lighting kit and have some spare money.

I have a soft (pun intended) spot for flo lighting for beauty and this really does the trick for me.

If I still had a studio I'd be investing in one of these for it for sure.
Her tutor has chosen the right size too.
 
HoppyUK said:
Re the above, I'm tempted by one of these lights for beauty photography. The one linked by the OP has a fluorescent tube, this one:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01DXKP8GY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A3H1KL2PTEXAP1&psc=1

But there are also a lot of very similar LED options, same 18in size and about the same price, such as this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01JUCNHP8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1OFOAOTB9DRPX&th=1

Would anyone like to hazard guess as to which one would be brightest and have the better colour? Any flickering problems with these things at high shutter speeds?
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I shot over 200 images for a client using this and didn't have any intermittent colour issues or blank or dark shots.

My setup was very controlled with my subjects sitting on a stool and my camera stationary on a tripod shooting through. Can't share this shoot I'm afraid (still not published in the UK) but anyone who knows me knows I like flo lighting and know a little bit about it.
 
HappySnappy1977 said:
I shot over 200 images for a client using this and didn't have any intermittent colour issues or blank or dark shots.

My setup was very controlled with my subjects sitting on a stool and my camera stationary on a tripod shooting through. Can't share this shoot I'm afraid (still not published in the UK) but anyone who knows me knows I like flo lighting and know a little bit about it.
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Cheers Dean. What kind of exposure settings were you getting, at what light distance? Thanks.
 
As it was in effect a beauty shoot (for a makeup and accessory brand) the model was close. I'd say maximum 2 meters.

Cannot remember what settings however speed would have been above 160 and above f/3.2 - 4 for clarity (I shoot on a crop). Generally I'm more than happy to shoot up to 640iso as with modern DSLR's (and quality processing) that's more than adequate for publication.
 
HappySnappy1977 said:
As it was in effect a beauty shoot (for a makeup and accessory brand) the model was close. I'd say maximum 2 meters.

Cannot remember what settings however speed would have been above 160 and above f/3.2 - 4 for clarity (I shoot on a crop). Generally I'm more than happy to shoot up to 640iso as with modern DSLR's (and quality processing) that's more than adequate for publication.
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Thanks Dean - that's workable (y)
 
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