Nikon D4S or Nikon D810 - which one

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I know some of you have had both

but which is the one to go for for a bird/wildlife shooter

I love my D750 but want a little more!.... or different?
 
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BillN_33 said:
I know some of you have had both

but which is the one to go for for a bird/wildlife shooter

I love my D750 but want a little more!.... or different?
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If it's for static birds I'd choose the D810 so that I'd got 20 more MP for more cropability. If it's BIF you may prefer the better fps of the D4S
 
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Very different tools, very different game.

D4 is great for
• fast pace action including bird hunting 11f/s!!!
• larger pixels as the lower pixel count of 16 MP implies and that alone
makes it a great low light tool

D810
• the main feature here is the pixel count: 36.3 MP!!!
• a slow 5f/s sometimes and the huge file size fills the buffer in a quickie
• good for birding since it will allow for severe crops without a sweat.

I could not choose one over the other so I bought both!
 
simonblue said:
For Birds & Wildlife i would say the D810 :)
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for static birds - taken from a tripod the extra MP's really count - I see that from images posted on the net ........ and the extra that the D810 gives over the D750

but I see more noise on bigger density MP sensors ... really disappointed looking at the noise levels of the 24MP DX sensor on the D7200 versus the FX D750

thinking I should keep my D700, (which I love), as a second body, but either the D4S or D810 is tempting

but 36mp will start to "stuff" the edit speeds of my MBP and iMac
 
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I've had a D4S and I sold it on in favour of a D810.
D4S is fast but I never have been a machine-gunner and I never needed bursts of 100 frames, (though I am often near togs who do!) - it can handle noise well but for most folk it's just about speed.
The D810 can provide fantastic resolution and make cropping much easier and cleaner, always a bonus for wildlife ... the guff about stuffing the computer processing speed is largely myth unless you have a really poor machine.
For what it's worth, I also think you are making a hasty judgement of the D7200, you haven't had it long and if the weather in France has been anything like here in the UK you haven't had the opportunity to see it at its best ... be patient and you may well be rewarded, it's not a D750 but it's very good. :)
 
gramps said:
I've had a D4S and I sold it on in favour of a D810.
D4S is fast but I never have been a machine-gunner and I never needed bursts of 100 frames, (though I am often near togs who do!) - it can handle noise well but for most folk it's just about speed.
The D810 can provide fantastic resolution and make cropping much easier and cleaner, always a bonus for wildlife ... the guff about stuffing the computer processing speed is largely myth unless you have a really poor machine.
For what it's worth, I also think you are making a hasty judgement of the D7200, you haven't had it long and if the weather in France has been anything like here in the UK you haven't had the opportunity to see it at its best ... be patient and you may well be rewarded, it's not a D750 but it's very good. :)
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noise just drives me crazy Roger
 
BillN_33 said:
for static birds - taken from a tripod the extra MP's really count - I see that from images posted on the net ........ and the extra that the D810 gives over the D750

but I see more noise on bigger MP sensors ... really disappointed looking at the noise levels of the 24MP DX sensor on the D7200 versus the FX D750

thinking I should keep my D700, (which I love), as a second body, but either the D4S or D810 is tempting

but 36mp will start to "stuff" the edit speeds of my MBP and iMac
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Surprised at this, the D750 is only about 1 stop better than the d7200 in noise. As for the larger MP sensor, I assume you realise the D750 is also 24mp?
 
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Bill you already have long lenses for the reach. I was in the same position a few months back and due to the focal length at my disposal with the 600 and tc then the D4s won the day and I'm just so glad i did now.If i had only shorter lenses then maybe the D810 WOULD HAVE WON THE DAY...Im so glad i did as its opening up a new world to me with fast paced action.
 
snerkler said:
Surprised at this, the D750 is only about 1 stop better than the d7200 in noise. As for the larger MP sensor, I assume you realise the D750 is also 24mp?
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In theory maybe, but in practice I have always found the D7xxx noisy over ISO 400/800 ...... that's why I longed for the D400
 
Icee said:
For wildlife it has to be the D4s
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Really? I'm using both for wildlife!
Mind you, at given light levels the D8xx is back in the bag
well before the D3/4.
 
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BillN_33 said:
machine gun v rifle?
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I think that is the primary shooting advantage (excuse the pun!) ... it handles noise pretty well and it's a 'pro-build' body, but at a price.
In ideal conditions it won't match a D810 for image quality IMO, and lets face it, it's all about the light whatever body you use, without the light the quality image won't occur.
 
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I'm in the process of replacing my kit and I opted for the D810 for wildlife and landscape, lighter, cheaper (£1799) and leaves more pennies for glass
 
Kodiak Qc said:
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Very different tools, very different game.

D4 is great for
• fast pace action including bird hunting 11f/s!!!
• larger pixels as the lower pixel count of 16 MP implies and that alone
makes it a great low light tool

D810
• the main feature here is the pixel count: 36.3 MP!!!
• a slow 5f/s sometimes and the huge file size fills the buffer in a quickie
• good for birding since it will allow for severe crops without a sweat.

I could not choose one over the other so I bought both!
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+1
 
BillN_33 said:
infiltrated by an ex Nikon user who has gone over to the "dark side" ........... I have often thought about doing the same because of the 600mm f4

Hope you had a good Xmas Joe
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Is the Canon really that much better than the Nikon?
 
gramps said:
What would be your reason(s)? :)
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Speed of af, FPS,high ISO, and 16mp is enough and I prefer the built in grip, it means one less joint for the weather to ge in.

If I had the money I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on a D4s.
 
Icee said:
Speed of af, FPS,high ISO, and 16mp is enough and I prefer the built in grip, it means one less joint for the weather to ge in.

If I had the money I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on a D4s.
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The AF has little over the D810 but fps and built-in grip are unchallenged.
 
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