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There's a mint ZF + 50mm f2 APO Voigtlander in the classifieds.
First test of the 3D tracking of the Z8 today, this is a 2MP Snapbridge image SOOC camera, interesting to see what the finished image looks like, The tracking is phenomenal. Just wish the feature came out this time last year.....
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I had an early iteration of this lens when I first bought into Z cameras, the Z6. Optically it was fine, but personally I found it a bit clunky and out-of-balance with the FTZ. As indeed I find more or less any lens using the adaptor.Anyone have experience of using the newer version Tamron 17-35mm lens on Z bodies with the FTZii.?... SWMBO has opened her purse and okayed a ZF for me at the end of the month. I was planning on keeping the 12-28mm I have for the ZFC/Z8 but as I'll be selling the ZFC I don't think there's much point in keeping the DX lens anymore with two FF bodies.
I cant afford the 14-30 or 17-28mm lenses at present and the Tamron 17-35mm would only be used for occasional use.
I used an F mount Tamron 17-35 OSD quite a bit on a Z8 with FTZ2 and had reasonably decent results with it before I bit the bullet and bought a Z mount WA zoom late last year. Used mostly on a tripod for landscapes. Anything in particular you want to know?Anyone have experience of using the newer version Tamron 17-35mm lens on Z bodies with the FTZii.?... SWMBO has opened her purse and okayed a ZF for me at the end of the month. I was planning on keeping the 12-28mm I have for the ZFC/Z8 but as I'll be selling the ZFC I don't think there's much point in keeping the DX lens anymore with two FF bodies.
I cant afford the 14-30 or 17-28mm lenses at present and the Tamron 17-35mm would only be used for occasional use.
I had a older version on my then D750 and for the price it performed okay. I'm looking at the OSD version now.I had an early iteration of this lens when I first bought into Z cameras, the Z6. Optically it was fine, but personally I found it a bit clunky and out-of-balance with the FTZ. As indeed I find more or less any lens using the adaptor.
I don't mind using the FTZ as I use my Sigma ART 24-35 f2 a lot with it. Although heavy, for the amount of times I do use it the weight becomes a little bit more bearable.I used an F mount Tamron 17-35 OSD quite a bit on a Z8 with FTZ2 and had reasonably decent results with it before I bit the bullet and bought a Z mount WA zoom late last year. Used mostly on a tripod for landscapes. Anything in particular you want to know?
AF is really good, fast and accurate but then that's my experience with every lens I've tried with the FTZ. Image quality is a little more subjective - reasonably decent I'd say, but it doesn't render as nicely as either the better WA Nikon F or Z mount lenses I've used. That said, it isn't an expensive lens and I do think it punches above it's weight in that regard. I swapped because I wanted something wider and because I didn't find the Tamron that great wide open for astro/night stuffI had a older version on my then D750 and for the price it performed okay. I'm looking at the OSD version now.
I don't mind using the FTZ as I use my Sigma ART 24-35 f2 a lot with it. Although heavy, for the amount of times I do use it though the weight becomes a little bit more bearable.
I just want to know what the IQ is like with the lens, AF etc.... I would guess I will use it more on the ZF when I get it rather than my Z8....Was there any particular reason why you moved to the Z mount version lens?
Thanks both for your replies.
Which WA angle did you decide to get, I guess the f2.8 version for your Astro/Night stuff....Looking at the finances again I could probably push for the 14-30mm F4 Z lens second-hand. Bit undecided for the amount of WA stuff I photo. I'm Ambulant disabled so most of my photos are taken from my mobility scooter and I will never climb mountains any time soon.AF is really good, fast and accurate but then that's my experience with every lens I've tried with the FTZ. Image quality is a little more subjective - reasonably decent I'd say, but it doesn't render as nicely as either the better WA Nikon F or Z mount lenses I've used. That said, it isn't an expensive lens and I do think it punches above it's weight in that regard. I swapped because I wanted something wider and because I didn't find the Tamron that great wide open for astro/night stuff
Loving the example photo advertising the new 35 1.2 s - definitely a shot you need a very shallow depth of field to keep bits oof!
Not sure if the price or the photo is more shocking.
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I went for the 14-24 2.8 Z in the end after a lot of procrastination. It's a lovely lens and the filter solution is really well implemented, the only issue with it being that the filters are huge and therefore costly. If it hadn't been for wanting to do more astro photography I'd likely have settled for the 14-30Which WA angle did you decide to get, I guess the f2.8 version for your Astro/Night stuff....Looking at the finances again I could probably push for the 14-30mm F4 Z lens second-hand. Bit undecided for the amount of WA stuff I photo. I'm Ambulant disabled so most of my photos are taken from my mobility scooter and I will never climb mountains any time soon.
If I went for the Tamron I can then buy a 70-300mm lens as lighter option to my 70-200mm f2.8 for holidays.
Decisions decisions and impatient.![]()
Matrix ignores the focus spot, it’s taking the whole frame to calculate the exposure, you might want to use exposure lock function if you want to hold the original exposure while recomposing or if you are comfortable with it, use full manual mode including ISOHi
Sorry I have a question which may be a stupid question but going to ask it anyway.....
So I have a Z6ii, when shooting in AP or Manual in Matrix metering mode, I put the focus point on the subject, half press the shutter and recompose, when I do this the exposure changes.
Should I be moving the focus point to the subject and taking the picture as opposed to focus and recompose? Or is there another setting that I need to change on the body?
I hope the question makes sense.
Thank you
Thanks for the reply Si.I went for the 14-24 2.8 Z in the end after a lot of procrastination. It's a lovely lens and the filter solution is really well implemented, the only issue with it being that the filters are huge and therefore costly. If it hadn't been for wanting to do more astro photography I'd likely have settled for the 14-30
Which WA angle did you decide to get, I guess the f2.8 version for your Astro/Night stuff....Looking at the finances again I could probably push for the 14-30mm F4 Z lens second-hand. Bit undecided for the amount of WA stuff I photo. I'm Ambulant disabled so most of my photos are taken from my mobility scooter and I will never climb mountains any time soon.
If I went for the Tamron I can then buy a 70-300mm lens as lighter option to my 70-200mm f2.8 for holidays.
Decisions decisions and impatient.![]()
Seems to be an awful lot of glass/acetate to put in front of a quality lensAnother 14-24mm user here, also with future astro stuff in mind, but went a different route for filters.
My filter collection has built up extensively over the years, mainly for long exposure landscapes, so I have been invested in a 100mm square system for quite some time. Most of the filter system companies supply a 14-24mm adapter to use what you already have, so for me, I spent less than £25 and carried on as usual.
This option doesn't seem to be discussed anywhere near as often as putting 112mm filters in a different hood and I'm not sure why. People used to knock the previous 14-24mm as you needed a bigger 150mm square system at great cost just for that lens but most seem happy at buying expensive round 112mm filters at great cost for the new lens, go figure! You also have many, many more options if you want them.
Whilst square systems don't seem to be trendy anymore, some of us still like to use the odd grad filter every now and then and if you still have an older square system, it's a far cheaper solution to just buy an adapter. If you took advantage of the recent offer to get the 14-24mm for £1499 with the usual price of the 14-30mm being £1299 then the difference would have been negligible for a far better lens.
Downsides? A little vignetting with 3x filters at 14-15mm, gone at 16mm
Upsides? Possible to use polariser, grad and 'big stopper' at the same time on probably every lens you need it to.
Food for thought?!
Thank you for the heads up on this. Have set the AF-L button to use to lock AE.Matrix ignores the focus spot, it’s taking the whole frame to calculate the exposure, you might want to use exposure lock function if you want to hold the original exposure while recomposing or if you are comfortable with it, use full manual mode including ISO
Maybe, I've never used all three at once, maximum of 2 normally but I've spent a lot of money over the years specifically to avoid any problems.Seems to be an awful lot of glass/acetate to put in front of a quality lens![]()
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Well done.Bit quiet on here, so thought I should mention I have a ZF incoming.![]()
Great newson the Zf. I recently added the Z6iii. Not sure it’s a keeper.Bit quiet on here, so thought I should mention I have a ZF incoming.![]()
Why's that, Trevor?Great newson the Zf. I recently added the Z6iii. Not sure it’s a keeper.
Something about the way it feels. I loved my original Z6. I knew that this was a bit bigger and ordered anyway. I wanted the latest AF. Including subject recognition. Wanted the SPAM dial with U1-U3. It’s a fabulous camera. I’m gonna give it the benefit of the doubt for a while. So far I’ve picked it up three times and used it once.Why's that, Trevor?
Yep totally agree, was a little shocked by this... flicking from photos to videos for wildlife, sometimes there isn't long to change everything, like going from 1/2500 for a still, then wanting 1/250th for a 120p video, and of course everything else that needs changing with it.One thing that really does bug me on the Nikon Z bodies though is that you can't truly separate your shooting and video settings like you can on Sony (except on my Z9). For instance on my Z8 if I set up a user bank when in photo mode, and then change the settings in video mode and save to the same user slot, the shooting mode (PASM), isn't independent but it taken from the last time set (whether it be in photo or shooting mode). I really wish when flicking across to video mode everything was separated including the shooting mode (that damned A6700 and A7RV has been spoiling me).
There is a lot of firmware tidying up needed by Nikon as all the Expeed 7 models (Z9, Z8, Z6III, Zf and Z50II) have different limitations and capabilities. For example the Z50II is the only model that you can save FPS settings,and the Z50II has bird AF, but the Z6III and Zf don't.I've deffo decided that my Z6 III is a keeper and much better overall than my Z6 II. I'm doing more and more video now, and I'm just finding the footage crisper, better colour depth (10 bit) and better frame rates. The IBIS is also by a measure better. The slight size increase doesn't bother me (it's certainly much smaller and lighter than my Z8). The only thing I'm not sold on is the viewfinder. Not to say it's bad, but coming from my Z7 II, Z9 and Z8 all with the paltry 3mp viewfinders, I expected more from the 5mp on the Z6 III, but just not seeing it. Having said that it's no worse of course than the other models (and they, given their relatively low resolution, are simply cracking, with zero lag.) At least the quality of the viewfinder doesn't go to a low res mode whilst focussing like it does on my A7RV
One thing that really does bug me on the Nikon Z bodies though is that you can't truly separate your shooting and video settings like you can on Sony (except on my Z9). For instance on my Z8 if I set up a user bank when in photo mode, and then change the settings in video mode and save to the same user slot, the shooting mode (PASM), isn't independent but it taken from the last time set (whether it be in photo or shooting mode). I really wish when flicking across to video mode everything was separated including the shooting mode (that damned A6700 and A7RV has been spoiling me).
It is always about the 'way it feels in your hands' in my selection process.Something about the way it feels. I loved my original Z6. I knew that this was a bit bigger and ordered anyway. I wanted the latest AF. Including subject recognition. Wanted the SPAM dial with U1-U3. It’s a fabulous camera. I’m gonna give it the benefit of the doubt for a while. So far I’ve picked it up three times and used it once.
We’ll see how it goes. Might visit a camera shop and have a feel of Z50 ii
Why is that? I was considering adding one alongside my Z8, interested to hear your opinions and why you are considering selling?Great newson the Zf. I recently added the Z6iii. Not sure it’s a keeper.
Something about the way it feels. I loved my original Z6. I knew that this was a bit bigger and ordered anyway. I wanted the latest AF. Including subject recognition. Wanted the SPAM dial with U1-U3. It’s a fabulous camera. I’m gonna give it the benefit of the doubt for a while. So far I’ve picked it up three times and used it once.
We’ll see how it goes. Might visit a camera shop and have a feel of Z50 ii
Why is that? I was considering adding one alongside my Z8, interested to hear your opinions and why you are considering selling?
Shame the Z6iii isn't a possible keeper.Great newson the Zf. I recently added the Z6iii. Not sure it’s a keeper.
I've deffo decided that my Z6 III is a keeper and much better overall than my Z6 II. I'm doing more and more video now, and I'm just finding the footage crisper, better colour depth (10 bit) and better frame rates. The IBIS is also by a measure better. The slight size increase doesn't bother me (it's certainly much smaller and lighter than my Z8). The only thing I'm not sold on is the viewfinder. Not to say it's bad, but coming from my Z7 II, Z9 and Z8 all with the paltry 3mp viewfinders, I expected more from the 5mp on the Z6 III, but just not seeing it. Having said that it's no worse of course than the other models (and they, given their relatively low resolution, are simply cracking, with zero lag.) At least the quality of the viewfinder doesn't go to a low res mode whilst focussing like it does on my A7RV
One thing that really does bug me on the Nikon Z bodies though is that you can't truly separate your shooting and video settings like you can on Sony (except on my Z9). For instance on my Z8 if I set up a user bank when in photo mode, and then change the settings in video mode and save to the same user slot, the shooting mode (PASM), isn't independent but it taken from the last time set (whether it be in photo or shooting mode). I really wish when flicking across to video mode everything was separated including the shooting mode (that damned A6700 and A7RV has been spoiling me).
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Nikon releases the first full-frame Z lens specifically designed for video. Built to support solo video shooters and small crews, the NIKKOR Z 28-135mm f/4 PZ lens resolves high-definition 8k video footage straight from the camera, and it’s light enough to shoot handheld. Engineered to be exceptional, it’s a game changer for video makers using full-frame Nikon Z cameras like the Z9 and the Z8. This is a compact, well-balanced and dependable go-to video lens for videographers and film makers who want to work with minimal kit. |
IMO, Nikon should have scrapped the z50 and zfc and revamped the z30 with a viewfinder and IS.Shame the Z6iii isn't a possible keeper.
I bought the ZFC twin lens kit as a lighter travel alternative to my Z8 but found it was too small for me even with a grip. I know the ZF isn't much bigger than the ZFC but I'm hoping it will sit better in the hand. I have ordered the Haoge grip for the ZF, I had the Neewer one on the ZFC.
I like the ZFC for the retro look.IMO, Nikon should have scrapped the z50 and zfc and revamped the z30 with a viewfinder and IS.
It is an f4, mediocre mtf but a giant price tagMaybe of use for Video users....Just had this email from Grays, a new video lens designed for the Z system.
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NIKKOR Z 28-135mm f/4 PZ – Grays of Westminster Online Shop
The Nikkor Z 58mm f/0.95 S Noct is positioned at the very top of the S-Line. The 16 mm flange focal distance to realize an f/0.95 maximum aperture, the fastest (brightest) in Nikon history.shop.graysofwestminster.co.uk
Breaking News!
Nikon Announces the NEW
NIKKOR Z 28-135mm f/4 PZ Video Lens! Nikon releases the first full-frame Z lens specifically designed for video. Built to support solo video shooters and small crews, the NIKKOR Z 28-135mm f/4 PZ lens resolves high-definition 8k video footage straight from the camera, and it’s light enough to shoot handheld. Engineered to be exceptional, it’s a game changer for video makers using full-frame Nikon Z cameras like the Z9 and the Z8.
This is a compact, well-balanced and dependable go-to video lens for videographers and film makers who want to work with minimal kit.
Are Nikon losing users to Sony though, who provide a better option? I wish I could fit Z lenses on a Sony body.I like the ZFC for the retro look.
I agree with your comments though, looking at the Z30 it seems as if it's a nice chunky grip from the photos on line, which would suit me personally along with the IBIS. I suppose Nikon are trying to cover as much users as possible with the different cameras.