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Yes, people who are lucky enough to buy Leica and HasselbladYou can tell where the money is ...
Yes, people who are lucky enough to buy Leica and HasselbladYou can tell where the money is ...
It's only muppets like me that go for the Z7
TBH the reason I went for the Z7 (as I did the D850) is that I crop a lot, and do use the camera in DX mode a bit too, otherwise I'd have gone for the Z6.
Which Dx camera do you have?.
Only got one Leica, and never had a Hassy. ;-(Yes, people who are lucky enough to buy Leica and Hasselblad
TBH the reason I went for the Z7 (as I did the D850) is that I crop a lot, and do use the camera in DX mode a bit too, otherwise I'd have gone for the Z6.
The main difference is the sensor, the Z7 is 45.7mp with no AA filter vs 24mp with AA filter for the Z6. As a result the Z7 will give you sharper images with more detail, but in the real world you're unlikely to see a difference. Where the extra MP helps is if you want to crop heavily, and as such the Z7 (and D850) can be thought of as a FF and APS-C (DX) crop camera all in one. In DX mode you still get 19.5mp, more than enough for most applications. Also, the Z7 has a base ISO 64 which is useful for certain applications.
The downside to the extra MP is that noise handling isn't as good, and the files are bigger. This results in lower fps, smaller buffer (in theory) and makes your computer work harder when processing.
For most people the Z6 will be the camera to go for, it's cheaper and offers better/more rounded performance.
This gives an idea of how much better the Z6 is in high ISO low light, from 12800 the Z6 does look noticeably better to my eyes. However, I got perfectly useable images at 12800 on my D850, which is comparable to the Z7, and this is plenty for me. The Z7 actually looks a smidge better than the D850 to my eyes actually.
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/im....00021670278379749475&y=-0.005934805533155573
Only got one Leica, and never had a Hassy. ;-(
Any thoughts on the 14-30 yet ?
Thanks. I did actually find it and was just about to post it but you beat me to it Thanks though.
Never had either but always fancied a Leica.Only got one Leica, and never had a Hassy. ;-(
Nothing, apart from smaller file size from the get go. If I’m taking something where I don’t have enough reach it just makes sense to me to shoot in DX and save on file size.Forgive my ignorance, but what’s the difference between cropping and taking in DX format?
You rarely see the difference tbh. I’ve only ever seen a difference in sharpness from the aa filter when reading reviews and someone’s shown pixel level crops, but in the real world I don’t think you see it.I tried out the Z7 for a couple of hours before getting the 6. The only real difference I could see in IQ was at high ISO where the Z6 was better. I could only see the resolution being a factor if printing really large. Subjectively the 7 didn't seem any sharper but perhaps then I need a super hires screen
1) dunno, don't use motor driveCouple of queries re the Z's. I've been setting up user settings but for some reason the drive mode (single shot, continuous high etc) doesn't save, is this the same for everyone else?
With the D750 and D850 you could choose to have a 'level' in the viewfinder that looked similar to the meter bar to show left and right tilt but I can't find this for the Z7, is it an option? It would be handy to view both a level and the histogram at the same time rather than either the histogram or the virtual horizon.
Lastly is there an option to show 'blinkies' for blown highlights/crushed blacks during shooting and not just on playback?
Thanks. with regards to 2 (spirit level) is that the virtual horizon I was referring to that you can toggle but not have with the histogram such as this?1) dunno, don't use motor drive
2) yes, there's a spirit level display (it's a bit too intrusive) for both horizontal and vertical, but you can't display iy at the same time as the histogram
3) not that Im aware of.
Yes, that's the virtual horizon I was referring to. Nothing as complex as your diagram!Thanks. with regards to 2 (spirit level) is that the virtual horizon I was referring to that you can toggle but not have with the histogram such as this?
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What I would like is this level (taken from the D750 manual) in the EVF which you could have alongside the histogram
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The diagram makes it look more complex that it is, in reality it’s just a series of dashes that show left and right tilt lol.Yes, that's the virtual horizon I was referring to. Nothing as complex as your diagram!
It is useful on the olympus tbh. One thing I like about the Olly is that you can actually choose what you want to see on the display, ie you can customise it rather than just cycling through preset displays.No. 3 seems like something that could/should be available - I hope it's added in firmware at some stage
Eye-AF definitely part of the firmware, but they also say AF performance will be improved, I'm just not sure howI heard that Eye AF was one of the thing being implemented, which looks like a pretty cool feature. With a couple of kids who're always at warp factor 3 I'll appreciate that if it works as well as the Sony implementation appears to.
Glad it's looking good - always a big thing buying something like this largely sight unseen, and I find it's only until you really use it in anger at home that you find out whether you'll be happy or not
Some from my first trip with the Z6, all I've got round to editing. Made a rookie mistake when taking the Durdle Door shots. I left IBIS on, having only ever disabled VR on the lens, forgot to do it in the menu. Doesn't seem to have caused anything to detrimental to the images though.
Also e-infinity have said to return the battery, and get refund for postage.
Lovely pictures. I think* disabling VR on the lens automatically disables it in the camera. I've got VR as part of my I-menu and have noticed that option greyed out if I flip the switch on the lens.Some from my first trip with the Z6, all I've got round to editing. Made a rookie mistake when taking the Durdle Door shots. I left IBIS on, having only ever disabled VR on the lens, forgot to do it in the menu. Doesn't seem to have caused anything to detrimental to the images though.
Also e-infinity have said to return the battery, and get refund for postage.
It is useful on the olympus tbh. One thing I like about the Olly is that you can actually choose what you want to see on the display, ie you can customise it rather than just cycling through preset displays.
Still trying to get used to the Z7, working out which settings I want on each Fn button etc but I think I'm going to be very happy with it. IQ looks as good as the D850, feature set is great and thing the ergonomics are great. I've not tried AF-C for anything moving yet but I'm not sure how they are going to improve the AF on it with the update, everything I've tried so far is as snappy as anything else I've used. Maybe it's AF tracking that's getting an improvement as apparently that's not great.
Both superb. Hard to pick a favourite.
Lovely pictures. I think* disabling VR on the lens automatically disables it in the camera. I've got VR as part of my I-menu and have noticed that option greyed out if I flip the switch on the lens.
That first shot is something special. Care to share the exposure details please?Some from my first trip with the Z6, all I've got round to editing. Made a rookie mistake when taking the Durdle Door shots. I left IBIS on, having only ever disabled VR on the lens, forgot to do it in the menu. Doesn't seem to have caused anything to detrimental to the images though.
Also e-infinity have said to return the battery, and get refund for postage.
I've often forgot to turn of IBIS or VR on different cameras/lenses and never had an issue tbh. I know you're supposed to turn it off, and I should remember, but I think in most situations you'll get away with it.Thanks. I think the Milky Way is mine, only because it was the reason I drove down from Coventry for it.
Thanks. I know but I was using the 24-70/4 S with no VR switch, switched it to manual focus but forgot about the VR. I don’t know how I forgot to do it as I was setting up my i menu the day before.
That first shot is something special. Care to share the exposure details please?
So just out of curiosity what is that noise when you go from live shooting to playback or menus? It reminds of the noise of my Nikon DSLRs when you went into live view and you could hear the mirror lift and shutter open, but obviously the Z's don't have a mirror. I can only assume it's the shutter opening/closing but why does it do this?
Deffo not aperture chatter, could be IBIS but then I’d expect to hear that turning off/on when I release the shutter. It’s only when I go into the menus or photo playback. As I said the sound is very reminiscent of going into liveview/mirror up mode on Nikon DSLRs. I’m convinced it’s the shutter, I just don’t know whyCOuld be aperture 'chatter' - if lenses on this body are set to focus wide open and you are in any auto/semi-auto mode, the aperture will remain wide open until you shoot. Maybe it's that shutting down when you enter the menu? Or is it IBIS switching off? a kind of 'clunk' sound and you feel something maybe moving inside? I know you're used to the em1mkii but I don't think M43 bodies turn it off so abruptly if at all when switching to those modes.
Deffo not aperture chatter, could be IBIS but then I’d expect to hear that turning off/on when I release the shutter. It’s only when I go into the menus or photo playback. As I said the sound is very reminiscent of going into liveview/mirror up mode on Nikon DSLRs. I’m convinced it’s the shutter, I just don’t know why
On the subject of IBIS, it appears to be active all the time when using the 70-200mm and not just on shutter half press which isn’t going to help battery life. I can’t see any option to change the behaviour of when IBIS is active like you can on Olly.
Dunno, maybe, I still think it's the shutter though I did read somewhere that the shutter closes when switched off on one of the new mirrorless, but can't remember if it's Nikon or Canon, but it sounded like a good idea as there's less chance of dust getting on the sensor when changing lenses.I just got the XH1 and it does a definitive 'clunk' when switching the camera off, it doesn't do it any other time, I have IBIS set to only kick in when I half press, no clunk when it's de-activating there. Maybe on the Nikon they have it set up different? Where it's not just 'resting' but completely shutting down when you enter the menu?
Mine doesn’t do it ... what lens is it?Dunno, maybe, I still think it's the shutter though I did read somewhere that the shutter closes when switched off on one of the new mirrorless, but can't remember if it's Nikon or Canon, but it sounded like a good idea as there's less chance of dust getting on the sensor when changing lenses.
Dunno, maybe, I still think it's the shutter though I did read somewhere that the shutter closes when switched off on one of the new mirrorless, but can't remember if it's Nikon or Canon, but it sounded like a good idea as there's less chance of dust getting on the sensor when changing lenses.
So you don't get a clunk/click if you go from shooting to pressing the menu button or image playback? It's with both 24-70mm f4 and 70-200mm f2.8 VRII, it's not coming from the lens though I don't believe.Mine doesn’t do it ... what lens is it?
No. At least I either don’t notice it or it doesn’t do it. I’ll check tomorrow. Thinking about it, some of my Oly OMDs in the olden days did that and Mark Thackara (sp?) said it was the IS locking the sensor.So you don't get a clunk/click if you go from shooting to pressing the menu button or image playback? It's with both 24-70mm f4 and 70-200mm f2.8 VRII, it's not coming from the lens though I don't believe.
So you don't get a clunk/click if you go from shooting to pressing the menu button or image playback? It's with both 24-70mm f4 and 70-200mm f2.8 VRII, it's not coming from the lens though I don't believe.