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The 70mm backs for the RB/RZ series also have a vacuum bulb for sucking the film flat..Some of the aero camera are really crazy, you get things like vacuum back plates to suck the film flat when taking shots!
The 70mm backs for the RB/RZ series also have a vacuum bulb for sucking the film flat..Some of the aero camera are really crazy, you get things like vacuum back plates to suck the film flat when taking shots!
Picked up dev in town and got the blackout blind up tonight,![]()
Aye, an LPL c7700.
Cost me a case of Stella.
joxby said:Good deal !
Mines a C7700 too, £50 but I gave him £70, cos I'm not a tight arse..
What lens are you using for 6x6

I only shoot 35mm. It's got a rodenstock 80mm in it which is probably more suited to mf but seems to work alright so far.
Cheers.
Doubt I'll be printing much bigger here anytime soon as I've just realised I'd also need a bigger easel too!
By the end of the week I will have an OM4Ti. Excited is an undrstatement.

By the end of the week I will have an OM4Ti. Excited is an undrstatement.
Indeed Ed, I'm catching up with your collection slowly!![]()
It's the metering I want mainly, plus the lighter weight over the OM2 and flash sync at all speeds it's all very tempting! It is mainly the lack of spot metering that keeps my LX in the bag most of the time.
I keeo meaning to find out, can you use spot metering in AE mode on the OM4?
Excellent, that'll sort out my only niggle with the OM2SP, I cannot get on with this centre weighted average nonsense, I can think of no situation where it offers an advantage, but I may well be wrong (and biased!).
Unless its radically different on the OM2SP, about every camera with TTL metering used 'centre weighted average metering' until the introduction of 'matrix metering' on the Nikon FA (with the possible exception of the Minolta SRT series 'contrast light control' system which used two photocells to measure the difference between the top and bottom of metered area).
Lots of cameras have built in flash, doesn't make it any good!![]()
Well what metering would you use instead?
Spot metering is fine, but you have to find something roughly equal to 18% grey or you have to use exposure compensation, not exactly the quickest way of doing it and has the possibility to go wildly wrong if you meter off something and don't use the correct compensation, centre weighted will get it right about 80% of the time, you just might need to use some compensation the for the other 20%.
Last time I looked you had a Pentax Super A and a selection of other manual cameras, whats wrong with the centre weighted metering on them suddenly?
Camera looks luvverly Alan,lens looks minging though
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I like to spot meter with B&W when I get the chance. Meter off of the part of the image that will be darkest that still contains detail and then up the shutter speed by 2 full stops (very basic zone system I know, bu its otherwise a bit complicated for me!). In fact I am thinking of getting a spot meter specifically!
You can spot meter off anything, it doesn't have to be grey, simple zone system is fast and accurate and also telss you your contrast and dynamic range.
I like to spot meter with B&W when I get the chance. Meter off of the part of the image that will be darkest that still contains detail and then up the shutter speed by 2 full stops (very basic zone system I know, bu its otherwise a bit complicated for me!). In fact I am thinking of getting a spot meter specifically!
EdBray said:That's how I used to do, it but the OM4 series uses 2 and 2/3rd stops when you hit the shadow button after spot metering on the darkest part in which you wish to retain detail, it still uses 2 stops for the highlights though.
The first film through the camera using the spot meter facility really impressed me, especially the dynamic range after using the shadow button.
Thanks for that. The OM4 sounds rather fancy! I will give it a go with using different stops, although with my M6 I will have to alter the aperture to get anything other than full stop increments.

menthel said:Thanks for that. The OM4 sounds rather fancy! I will give it a go with using different stops, although with my M6 I will have to alter the aperture to get anything other than full stop increments.
Anyay, here's my new baby. It's almost immaculate - just the mark above the strap ring and some wear on the memo holder, otherwise it looks and feels as if it came out the factory last week. Well worth the rather high price tag. You'll have to prise it from my cold dead fingers before I part with it!
FruitFlakes said:I can get intermediate speeds on my M4 except in between 1/4 and 1/8, your M6 should be able to do that too.