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Wow looking for a lens I want, I have tried to find a local shop to me so I can try it out before I buy. Done a Internet search around me only to find about 3 independents and all the rest are Jessops.
Even when I have rang the independents there is no answer ( tried many a time throughout today ) either too busy or not open? Not Jessops biggest fan either, like to give the shops a chance but looks like I will have to buy online!
 
What lens is it? Maybe a kind TPer local to you would let you have a shot of theirs?
 
Mickwreay said:
Hi mate, can't remember the name of it. But there's a camera shop over the bridge in the Gates shopping centre.

Mick
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Already tried it today many a time no answer lol.
 
I have been after a flashgun and had narrowed it down due to price to the Nissin or Sigma but could I find a shop that actually stocked one I could handle and Il'll be dammed if I am going to lash out well over £100 on an item I never handled.
So popped to Wolverhampton camera fair and picked up a Sigma at half the new price,so thats a £170 sale that Jessops,Jacobs or LCE have lost.
 
Tried Charles Eagles Sunderland, he can't get any where near prices advertised in majority of Internet shops?
 
Martylaa said:
Tried Charles Eagles Sunderland, he can't get any where near prices advertised in majority of Internet shops?
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Well that's the difference between Internet prices and physical shop prices. The advantage of a real shop is that you can try the gear first and you can take the stuff back easily enough. You can't expect them to match the price of Internet shops with lower infrastructure costs etc.!
 
So I have to pay £50-£75 more than most online shops to try it out?
I'll never buy stuff like that an would be surprised if anyone did, if that's the case then those shops will not be around for long!
 
Martylaa said:
So I have to pay £50-£75 more than most online shops to try it out?
I'll never buy stuff like that an would be surprised if anyone did, if that's the case then those shops will not be around for long!
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Hi Martin,

I think it's balance to be honest :shrug: If the local store is helpful & can show you & explain (if required) how to best choose & use your kit then maybe it's worth 5-10% extra?

While writing this, I was gonna recommend RGB-PHOTO, but a quick search & seems they have gone out of business :thumbsdown:

Mick
 
Martylaa said:
So I have to pay £50-£75 more than most online shops to try it out?
I'll never buy stuff like that an would be surprised if anyone did, if that's the case then those shops will not be around for long!
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How else do you expect them to pay for rent, wages and other associated expenses with owning a shop and paying staff? We'd all love to pay online prices in a real store but are you seriously telling me you don't accept any advice from the staff in the store (assuming, obviously, that they know what they're talking about). You have two choices: suck it up and pay a bit more to get a product you've tried and tested, and have a real option of returning or going back to the store to ask the advice of the members of staff; or buying blind online on your own. You pay for a service.

I get so many people asking me how Currys stays in business when they're nowhere near online prices, and once I've asked them to actually stand back and look at the infrastructure behind high-street stores (many of which pay massively through the nose for the rent to simply stay on the high street) and how much that costs, the greater majority of them are more than happy to pay a bit more to walk away with the product in their hands and the knowledge that after-sales service is a realistic prospect.
 
Nuffles said:
How else do you expect them to pay for rent, wages and other associated expenses with owning a shop and paying staff? We'd all love to pay online prices in a real store but are you seriously telling me you don't accept any advice from the staff in the store (assuming, obviously, that they know what they're talking about). You have two choices: suck it up and pay a bit more to get a product you've tried and tested, and have a real option of returning or going back to the store to ask the advice of the members of staff; or buying blind online on your own. You pay for a service.

I get so many people asking me how Currys stays in business when they're nowhere near online prices, and once I've asked them to actually stand back and look at the infrastructure behind high-street stores (many of which pay massively through the nose for the rent to simply stay on the high street) and how much that costs, the greater majority of them are more than happy to pay a bit more to walk away with the product in their hands and the knowledge that after-sales service is a realistic prospect.
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So I have to pay a lot more for this do I? Sorry but we're going to have to disagree on this, don't get me wrong I am all for local business but not at a extreme premium!
 
For heavens sake... how on earth is a high st store going to compete with online retailers? Having a shop costs more, and you can argue you have a smaller market so will not shift as much. So it doesnt take much intelligence (or maybe it does) to realise they need to charge more. What you get for that is an easy way to take back if faulty, possibly some decent advice, and trying the item before you buy.

Its idiots who go into the local store who waste their time and then save a few quid buying online who are part of the reason why small stores struggle. Its your choice, order online and save money, or try the goods in a shop and pay a premium. But you cant get the best of both worlds!

Glad I dont have people like you as a customer... "why should I pay you £20 for a 10"x8" when Tescos can do one for £1."
 
Martin's totally got the wrong end of the stick here, it's actually laughable! You guys are all 100% right about the additional infrastructure costs, they can be astronomical. There's a reason that small business fail - people like you will go into the store, try a few things then save yourself a bit of cash by buying it online, thus wasting the shop guy's hard work.

I had a brilliant moment of "I told you so" the other week, when a customer in our store needed a new laptop, so we spent ages going through the options and finally arrived at a very generous deal in their favour. In the end they just bought the laptop, leaving behind the office software, bag, internet security, etc etc because he was adamant that it was cheaper online and would go home and get his son-in-law to sort it all out. As I said goodbye and wished him a nice day (through slightly gritted teeth!), I handed him a leaflet to our in-store services like virus removals and software installations. Guess who I saw a few weeks later needing a full system recovery because the laptop was riddled with bad stuff! :bonk:
 
In response to the last 2 posts, I would gladly pay a premium of 5-10% extra over Internet but not 20-30% more, I have always given my money to local business but like I said I will not pay highly inflated pries for that, there is a limit.
So don't get on your soapbox please, wind your necks in and just breath slowly!
 
Thing is, you're not paying a premium of any kind. Long before the internet, shops had healthy competition with each other at what were considered 'normal' prices. Sadly, that seems to have fallen by the wayside now that online shops can happily cut huge chunks out of what would have been a bricks & mortar shop's margins.

Online prices now seem to be considered the 'normal' price for goods, which has an adverse effect on the real shops.
 
So places where I am comparing the prices whilst speaking to my local shop, which are Misfuds, Park Cameras, Castle Cameras etc, they all have " Bricks and Mortars shops " don't they?
Yet they don't charge a massive mark up?
 
Martylaa said:
So places where I am comparing the prices whilst speaking to my local shop, which are Misfuds, Park Cameras, Castle Cameras etc, they all have " Bricks and Mortars shops " don't they?
Yet they don't charge a massive mark up?
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They don't have as many branches I suppose. What lens is it you are after to try out?
 
Laudrup said:
They don't have as many branches I suppose. What lens is it you are after to try out?
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He's been asked that a number of times but doesn't seem to want to answer. Maybe the price difference is being exaggerated!
 
Ploddles said:
He's been asked that a number of times but doesn't seem to want to answer. Maybe the price difference is being exaggerated!
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See the post above yours......
 
Camerapricebuster is a good site I find for comparing prices. I'd try it out in Jessops and then maybe buy from Kerso or the cheapest place online?
 
Nuffles said:
How else do you expect them to pay for rent, wages and other associated expenses with owning a shop and paying staff? We'd all love to pay online prices in a real store but are you seriously telling me you don't accept any advice from the staff in the store (assuming, obviously, that they know what they're talking about). You have two choices: suck it up and pay a bit more to get a product you've tried and tested, and have a real option of returning or going back to the store to ask the advice of the members of staff; or buying blind online on your own. You pay for a service.

I get so many people asking me how Currys stays in business when they're nowhere near online prices, and once I've asked them to actually stand back and look at the infrastructure behind high-street stores (many of which pay massively through the nose for the rent to simply stay on the high street) and how much that costs, the greater majority of them are more than happy to pay a bit more to walk away with the product in their hands and the knowledge that after-sales service is a realistic prospect.
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I agree, that stores have additional costs overheads but it doesnt give a right for the stores to charge you for trying out a product.

Also, who in this forum alone, goes to jessops and ask them for advice? come on, we are not asking them for advice, where asking them if we can stick a lens in our camera or theirs and take a few shots and get a feel of the lens.

To me, paying a premium just to allow you to try it is not on. asking for advice then yea maybe.

By your logic, they should also charge kids who go to big GAME store and play their xbox 360's and nintendo 3ds then right?

Anyways back on topic, Jessops and Jacobs are not that bad actually. i am looking to buy a 70-200mm f2.8 mk2 and the price their are exactly the same as the online stores like amazon etc etc.
 
Mickwreay said:
Hi Martin,

I think it's balance to be honest :shrug: If the local store is helpful & can show you & explain (if required) how to best choose & use your kit then maybe it's worth 5-10% extra?

While writing this, I was gonna recommend RGB-PHOTO, but a quick search & seems they have gone out of business :thumbsdown:

Mick
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Thats the thing. MOST of us in this forum that goes to jessops knows their **** and probably knows more then the people in the shops.

Im sure for instance the OP did his research HERE about this lens getting FREE professional legit advice from people here who are not trying to make a profit in selling the OP some overpriced piece of lens
 
jonneymendoza said:
Anyways back on topic, Jessops and Jacobs are not that bad actually. i am looking to buy a 70-200mm f2.8 mk2 and the price their are exactly the same as the online stores like amazon etc etc.
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You are not wrong there. When I bought my D7000 Body and a Lens Jessops was within £35 of HK Import shops. Just done a quick click and collect and got decent quidco cashback as well.

Prices do fluctuate heavily.

But I did have a problem with the lens I bought and that is when I noticed how great it is buying from a proper shop. And in all honesty the staff at MK Jessops were brilliant, the first person didn't have a clue, but they knew they didn't know and thus got someone who did. And that chap knew his stuff.

I think buying online is fine, however trying stuff out at a highstreet retailer whilst you never had the intention of buying it there is morally very wrong in my opinion.
 
jonneymendoza said:
To me, paying a premium just to allow you to try it is not on.
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Why ? the store has had to buy in that product for you or anyone else to try and pay the rent and rates for a shop front for you to walk into to try it, then will know doubt be asked to sell it cheaper as its a demo unit :cuckoo:


jonneymendoza said:
By your logic, they should also charge kids who go to big GAME store and play their xbox 360's and nintendo 3ds then right?
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Well thats the same, as the games can be bought cheaper online aswell at Play.com and The Hut etc.

As mentioned above the mentality today wants everything for nothing with no consequences, when there are no highstreet shops left the same people will then be moaning the fact that they can't see or try any of these products :shake:
 
I have a shed load of vouchers, but everything I want to use them for isnt available for collect in store. Why the hell can't you redeem gift vouchers online in this day and age?
 
No where in this thread have I said I will go to a shop and check the lens out only to go buy online saving money!
I actually would prefer buying local AND pay a bit extra for that service but I do not believe I should be expected to pay massively inflated prices just to buy local.
 
You keep saying 'inflated prices' like someone is trying to rip you off.

If you want to understand why prices are higher, try putting together a business case for a high-street camera store and take it to your bank and see how far you get.

If you don't like it, buy online, just to spite all the millionaire camera shop owners....
 
Blimey, what an angry thread. Any bricks and mortar shop charging 'inflated prices' in this day and age won't be in business for much longer unless they can offer value for money in some other way. Also, a few online retailers seem to have a nasty habit of advertising products as being 'in stock' when that simply isnt the case, just in order to get an order!
 
yeah it was'nt supposed to be an angry thread, but some people like to call and stir without reading properly, not for 1 minute did i say i would just go local to try gear out and then buy online, but yes i did say i would not pay steeper prices from a local shop when " a host of other advertised bricks and mortars places " sell them cheaper....
 
dejongj said:
I think buying online is fine, however trying stuff out at a highstreet retailer whilst you never had the intention of buying it there is morally very wrong in my opinion.
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Yeah I cry myself to sleep every night for trying out a lens in Jessops and not buying it there. I even once had a tester spray of cologne in the perfume shop and didn't buy it there, don't think I slept for a week.
 
Marty, do you want me to post some example shots up for the Canon 35mm f/2?

I'd keep an eye on the various LCE branches, even if it means travelling!
 
Laudrup said:
Yeah I cry myself to sleep every night for trying out a lens in Jessops and not buying it there. I even once had a tester spray of cologne in the perfume shop and didn't buy it there, don't think I slept for a week.
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Comprehension is difficult for some people, now try and find the key in the sentence you responded to. Then again I bet you can't be bothered either. :thumbsdown:
 
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