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Just wondering if there are any "rules of thumb" for panning a bit like the camera-shake avoid shutter-speed=focal length?

I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to snap my boys on their bikes etc, aged 2 and 3 so not fast moving - have gotten some great backgrounds but subjects are all over the place.

I've been using Tv so far but not really too sure how to do it. 1/50th using 50mm on a round-about worked quite well.

Thanks!
 
I generally would not go below 1/250th unless you have a steady hand. (or IS)
sometimes you get nice effects, but all about practice.

I'm sure some others have made threads & tips on this, have a look around ;)
 
Children move rather erratically and can be difficult to pan. You are usually quite close to them which maks things more difficult.
Most panning is done with very modest shutter speeds from say 1/60 to 1/500 depending on the speed of the object and more especially parts of the object. a cyclist can be caught perfectly at 1/25 second however their legs would be blurred as well as the back ground.
Children are much the same and need a higher speed setting.

One of the most important thing is to have a very steady stance, Legs apart firmly braced ( I like one leg in front of the other.) and rotate the whole upper body from the hips. Practice a good few swings... this knocks out the shakes and gets things much smoother. You want to eliminate all up and down movement but keep the focus point perfectly centred as you swing.
 
the main thing I would say it follow them, click and follow through with the pan, dont click and stop to check as that can cause blur to

the other thing is practice practice practice

1/50th should be fine at slower speeds
 
OK thanks for the comments and input :thumbs:

Here are some samples. OK the first isn't really panning but the only one I've really managed with a motion(ish) background so far, 50mm at 1/50th. 2nd one is like the rest of them :(

http://sittingbourneSPAMerver.com/downloads/photos/tp_shared/pan-1.jpg

http://sittingbourneSPAMerver.com/downloads/photos/tp_shared/pan-2.jpg
 
I read on here, that you stand with your feet facing forawrd to the point that you want to take the photo, and that you turn your whole body, not your arms.

I read this for motorsport but i guess its the same.

Dion!
 
I read on here, that you stand with your feet facing forawrd to the point that you want to take the photo, and that you turn your whole body, not your arms.

I read this for motorsport but i guess its the same.

Dion!

thats right. twist the torso to the start point and track the subject as it comes past you, keeping the camera stable. you should be aiming to take the shot at the point your facing forward.
 
One other suggestion (Tv mode is the best mode for panning) is to make sure you have your camera set to Al Servo, that way it continually re-focusses as your subject is moving. Pan with it, half press, keep panning then press the shutter when you're ready
 
^ That works for me too using the Al Servo and not done much panning but always got OK results... And just move your torso with the subject... I think I shot on Av rather than Tv too prob about f11

One of my pans... ok I think!!!

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Very tricky at those low comparative speeds, I think you've already found the limits with that last shot... I can see its pretty close speed wise, the cars nearly frozen and know doubt with some practice and luck you'll be able to nail the pan and get it crisp ...however your lads face and feet are another problem all together and I think raising your speeds any further to catch them crisp (His head at least) will render the background in-focus too... you could try 60th sec and see if that helps or hinders, (you may catch the occasional in focus face)but much higher than that isn't going to help the pan type look your after at the low speeds your working with. (you've probably tried that already)

You could try adding a rear curtain sync flash on a slightly longer exposure maybe....light his face a little or a lot after capturing the movement blur as the shutter closes.
 
The clue is in the ground. The little chap is riding a rigid framed bike over cobbles...he is bouncing up and down with every stone he goes over. Not a hope of stopping that verticle movement while you pan.

Panning is all about removing ONE plane of movement whilst retaining the other (nOT always side to side!).

To start with pan sideways, and swing with the subject. The faster the subject travels across the film plane, the easier it is to get a smooth swing. Within reason. A low flying jet and you wouldn't keep up, so lets keep this in context.

The way panning works is the subject is kept RELATIVE in the same place on the film, the background and foreground don't, they sweep across the film. The shutter speed required (other than for correct exposure) depends upon the focal length of the lens, the distance of the subject from the lens and the speed the subject is traversing your shooting arc.

Longer lens = faster shutter speed
Further away requires a much slower shutter speed (but it is then more difficult to swing it cleanly)
RELATIVE speed of subject. A jet airliner doing 500mph at 40,000 feet looks like an ant crawling across the sky - it takes a relatively long time to cross your shooting arc.
A bike doing 10mph 10 feet away wooshes through much faster.

You have to balance these things. You find out by trial and error....but, you do need to help yourself by taking out the bumps the bike is going over. That poor little chap is having his teeth chattered.
Try exactly the same settings on smooth tarmac and see what happens. Also I would say pre-focus on manual focus and concentrate on GENTLY pressing the shutter button just before the bike gets opposite you. At the kind of shutter speed (for a 50mm I would start at least as low as 1/30th, no faster) you are talking about yu are going to have all the depth of field you need, f11? or so.
PRESS THE SHUTTER GENTLY - you can introduce camera shake to your pans simply by stabbing the shutter button. Don't change your settings, but change your timing first, and how far away the subject is,with a 50mm even a couple feet will make a big difference. So have a swing, then move forward a foot and do it again at same settings, go forward again to fill the frame and shoot another one. Then try going backwards. KEEP ALL OF THEM SO YOU CAN ANALYSE THE RESULTS....by using the same setting you are only introducing ONE variable, the distance of the subject. From that you can work out how to do it with different things and different lenses and different subject distances.
This shot is one I did the other day. I was in a small 5.5m RIB, I would have like somethng a bti bigger to give a higher shooting position, but had to make do. I was stood on the console with my toes between the screen and grab rail to get some purchase. I also had a hand to stay put in the wash as we rolled about from a hand grabbing my trouser belt!
70-200, polariser, f6.3 at somethink like 1/500th (I can't remember exactly) probably about 110mmlength. he came by much closer on subsequent passes - speed of boat was about 85 knots (close to 100mph). So subject was passing, but also bouncing a little over the waves about, we were swinging around wildly and I was perched precariously...I needed some help to keep things sensible, a bigger boat would have allowed me to go much slower because i would have had a steadier platform.
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Some good advice lensflare but is a shot at 1/500th really good for a description about panning? (I realise this was to get the shot though)

It really depends on the relative speed of the passing vehicle and then it's all about tracking the object, shooting whilst continuing tracking.

Some examples
1/40th
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1/60th
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1/100th
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1/125th
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Probably not - but that was the only thing I had available on this computer! My pics are on a main frame not linked to the internet.

With longer lens and fast subject, even 500th can give motion blur - enlarged you can see the whizz in the tower behind, but I take your point.
 
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