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The attack in Charlottesville is quite an image and possibly not for the faint of heart...
Amazing work by Ryan Kelly.
Amazing work by Ryan Kelly.
Sheer luck, demonstrating no photographic skill or art. If it'd be taken by an anonymous bystander on a smartphone, it wouldn't have won anything.
I fundamentally disagree. It's a breaking news image and those are often shot on the fly. The skill is in capturing the moment - there's an HCB quote on that exact point floating about somewhere.
Breaking news images (or spot news) aren't necessarily about art, they are about telling the story.
Burhan Ozbilici's stunning shot of the Russian Ambassador's assassin is one example (which won the WPP), as is Oli Scarff's photo shot in 2011 of the Notting Hill Carnival stabbing.
L. I agree with Demil and I don't see why it wouldn't win if a bystander had taken it. I certainly tells a story. To think that the photographer should have made sure the composition was perfect or the person in the foreground wasn't in the frame is ludicrous. The whole point is getting the action first and everything else comes a distant second.Sheer luck, demonstrating no photographic skill or art. If it'd be taken by an anonymous bystander on a smartphone, it wouldn't have won anything.
Sheer luck, demonstrating no photographic skill or art. If it'd be taken by an anonymous bystander on a smartphone, it wouldn't have won anything.
I would not talk of skills but of attitude and Kelly's well deservesto maintain your composure and capture an historic image in that absolute split second, takes skill.
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The main task of a reporter photographer is not to experience
an event but to witness it THROUGH the chosen medium. Many
people would lower their gear to see what happens but will have
no record of it… of any kind.
I would not talk of skills but of attitude and Kelly's well deserves
the Pulitzer Prize for breaking news photography. In this, I agree
with Darryl!
I would not talk of skills but of attitude and Kelly's well deserves
the Pulitzer Prize for breaking news photography. In this, I agree
with Darryl!
It's 100% about skill - and practice.
Not panicking. Staying alive. The art of running towards trouble is one that has to be learned and practised (again). It's against natural human reaction.
I would say that it is a skill. It isn't natural to take a photograph of very dangerous things that are happening close to you, and get a decent picture. I know I have missed many, partly because of being frightened, but also because you need to have thought about possible scenarios before they happen. ie, it is, to an extent, planned. Just having the right attitude isn't enough. You need to know how you are going to take the photo and maintain a reasonable change of staying alive, or sane, or whatever the threat is.•
The main task of a reporter photographer is not to experience
an event but to witness it THROUGH the chosen medium. Many
people would lower their gear to see what happens but will have
no record of it… of any kind.
I would not talk of skills but of attitude and Kelly's well deserves
the Pulitzer Prize for breaking news photography. In this, I agree
with Darryl!
Remember that photo of a starving child with the patiently waiting vulture in the background. Beautiful photo, but really shocking. I guess with that sort of photo you have time to compose and make it a good photo irrespective of the subject. The white supremacist thing didn't allow that luxury.I went to the World Press Photo exhibition in Amsterdam a few weeks back and Ryan Kelly's photo is stunning blown up.
Art in documentary photography makes me uncomfortable. I get uncomfortable finding an image beautiful when it depicts something horrifying.
Ronaldo Schemidt's Man on Fire photo being a case in point.
However it makes the image stay in my head longer, which I guess can only be a good thing when the photographer is highlighting troubling issues around the world ?
Remember that photo of a starving child with the patiently waiting vulture in the background. Beautiful photo, but really shocking. I guess with that sort of photo you have time to compose and make it a good photo irrespective of the subject. The white supremacist thing didn't allow that luxury.
And Kevin Carter killed himself when he was only 33. Maybe this had nothing to do with his work, but it must be tough to deliberately expose yourself to these things. I don't think I would cope very well.Kevin Carter - remember it well.
I think photos like this, and the Russian Ambassador assasination photo, make me admire these type of photographers very much, to remain composed when the worst of humanity is happening around you is something special.
I think of people Like Don McCullin, Tim Hetherington, Sabastio Salgado, Ken Oosterbroek et. al. have something special and it's to be greatly admired.
And Kevin Carter killed himself when he was only 33. Maybe this had nothing to do with his work, but it must be tough to deliberately expose yourself to these things. I don't think I would cope very well.
I think most people who do these things eventually can't take it anymore. I remember reading once that the average useful life of a soldier in the trenches in WW1 was 6 months. After that he couldn't function as a soldier anymore (and perhaps not as anything). If he was neurotic, he may last a bit longer, maybe a couple of years (an example was a major who got upset with his soldiers for throwing tea leaves down the end of the trenches. It apparently helped him ignore the war).I know, he did have a drug issue, but perhaps that was brought on my the trauma of seeing horrible things. Don McC wanders about photographing landscapes these days, perhaps that's how he copes?