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been looking for quite some time now. asked the missus for a go pro alike for christmas and fingers crossed shes got me the sjcam sj4000 wifi which is less than half the price than a go pro ( around £70 for the wifi one ) but apparantly exceptional quality.
so now with that hopefully under the tree decided to bite the bullet and get me a quad.
couldnt afford a DJI phantom so spent alot of time hunting around and researching and now have winging its way to me a Cheerson CX-20 with the big shark controller .

looking forward to getting out with it and getting some aerial footage though think will spent a good few weeks first just getting to grips before i even consider strapping on the camera.
 
Nice one Dean.
Iv'e just got my DH 9118 for crimbo, QC hopefully next year :) My mates got a DJI P2 and loves it but he's rich so GoPro fitted for movies.....
 
The camera sounds ideal, lots of different choices of mount with it and it can be used as a dash cam as well.
 
I'm going to get a P2 with the 3D gimbal and the Inspire. I'm also going to get the BNUC qualification. This whole new world of aerial photography fascinates me.
 
I'm going to get a P2 with the 3D gimbal and the Inspire. I'm also going to get the BNUC qualification. This whole new world of aerial photography fascinates me.

That's some serious money just for a hobby, or are you thinking of going pro with AP?

:)
 
I fly this for AP, I have FPV installed too, much cheaper than a Inspire :)

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P2V, so no, but it's tempting to get another that can :woot:
 
what sort of cameras can these carry - would a panasonic gm1 be too heavy? 274g inc lens
 
Had mine about 6 months now, fitted with a Walkera 2d gimbal and GoPro 3+, black pearl FPV. Great fun just need to try and get out with it more.
 
The Phantoms carry GoPros. The larger DJI drones can carry full-frame DSLR or Red Epic cameras. The Panasonic GH4 is a popular tool because of its 4k video ability.

Right, so the Phantoms have a dedicated go pro mount that cannot be adapted for other cameras? And there aren't any small drones that can take smaller cameras apart from the go pro?
 
No, there are plenty of mounts, but controlling the camera and weight are the issue if you don't use the Phantom Vision/Vision Plus/Aspire.
 
Right, so the Phantoms have a dedicated go pro mount that cannot be adapted for other cameras? And there aren't any small drones that can take smaller cameras apart from the go pro?
As mentioned you will struggle with weight if you try to attach a camera larger than a GoPro to a smaller drone. Don't dismiss the GoPro though, the latest one does 4k video recording and 12mp stills.
 
been looking for quite some time now. asked the missus for a go pro alike for christmas and fingers crossed shes got me the sjcam sj4000 wifi which is less than half the price than a go pro ( around £70 for the wifi one ) but apparantly exceptional quality.
so now with that hopefully under the tree decided to bite the bullet and get me a quad.
couldnt afford a DJI phantom so spent alot of time hunting around and researching and now have winging its way to me a Cheerson CX-20 with the big shark controller .

looking forward to getting out with it and getting some aerial footage though think will spent a good few weeks first just getting to grips before i even consider strapping on the camera.
Will you be getting a 3d gimbal to mount the camera? If so you have to get one that's made for it otherwise the balance will be off. I tried a gopro hero4 in the gimbal for my hero3 and it didn't work. I'm using the dji phantom 2 with the 3d gimbal for hero3.
 
These quadcopters are a great challenge for anyone that's into skeet shooting.

Only joking... ;)

However...

Someone flew one into my house and onto my car a few weeks ago. He had lost control in the wind and off it went. I only know this because I found it on the drive and viewed the video it had recorded. As you can imagine I was not entirely happy. Considered returning it but decided the owner was not responsible enough to deserve it. :p

These look like great toys, but so much asshat potential.
 
These quadcopters are a great challenge for anyone that's into skeet shooting.

Only joking... ;)

However...

Someone flew one into my house and onto my car a few weeks ago. He had lost control in the wind and off it went. I only know this because I found it on the drive and viewed the video it had recorded. As you can imagine I was not entirely happy. Considered returning it but decided the owner was not responsible enough to deserve it. :p

These look like great toys, but so much asshat potential.

Personally I think your attitude sucks. You could have returned it but didn't. That's tantamount to theft in my opinion. My first quadcopter was delivered on Wednesday, and I still haven't flown it due to the wind. However I already have bought 5 million pounds worth of public liability insurance. How do you know he didn't?
 
To be honest flying it near houses was pretty stupid and against the rules of flying them for a start (yes, there are lots of rules to go by whilst flying them), but if he lost control in the wind then surely you can see that as an accident. If not you should still return it, they're not cheap. Let's hope it hasn't got a live camera feed back to his controller otherwise he'll know exactly where to go looking for it :sneaky:

Also to some they're a tool, not a toy. The one my boss's mate is building up is big enough to carry his 5diii and will take two people to fly it. I don't really class that as a toy.
 
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I fly this for AP, I have FPV installed too, much cheaper than a Inspire :)

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I know you're keen on all sorts of RC stuff. Did you build that yourself? Also would you mind sharing how much it was? I wouldn't mind getting something bigger than my phantom 2.
 
Cheers Paul :)

Yes I did build it myself, it's made up of 3 different kits, so it's a frankencopter:D

All up its about the same money as a phantom 2, the bonus being you can specify the parts you want and also the radio system too.

I use a hitec Aurora 9 radio with this.


Recently I've completed another hexacopter, 850mm sized that can carry a Olympus ep-m1 camera, it's huge :)
 
Cheers Paul :)

Yes I did build it myself, it's made up of 3 different kits, so it's a frankencopter:D

All up its about the same money as a phantom 2, the bonus being you can specify the parts you want and also the radio system too.

I use a hitec Aurora 9 radio with this.


Recently I've completed another hexacopter, 850mm sized that can carry a Olympus ep-m1 camera, it's huge :)

nice one! Would you be interested in building them for other people? I love the way they work.
 
Just done my maiden flight! All went well. Looking forward to some more practice.
 
Banned over all US national parks, can understand why, potential to be an unsightly noisy intrusion.
 
These quadcopters are a great challenge for anyone that's into skeet shooting.

Only joking... ;)

However...

Someone flew one into my house and onto my car a few weeks ago. He had lost control in the wind and off it went. I only know this because I found it on the drive and viewed the video it had recorded. As you can imagine I was not entirely happy. Considered returning it but decided the owner was not responsible enough to deserve it. :p

These look like great toys, but so much asshat potential.

Obvious solution would be to hand it in to plod along with a complaint against the owner (and a claim if there was any damage to your car). As CaveDweller said, the operator wasn't following the rules governing their use and should (like Ricardo) be insured. It's people like him/her (the operator, not Ricardo!!!) who will get the things more heavily controlled by laws rather than suggested rules.
 
I note the Mid Hants railway bans them within 50m of its properties.

agree that these are intrusive, when i heard one at home last year groaned along the lines of here comes some (insert tword sounding like "to cough" in French) with his microlite

One of these devices was flown in the USA to capture demolition of a shopping mall. The machine upset a local bee colony which proceeded to attack it. The bees also vented their irritation by stinging several people in the vicinity and the operator was forced to land it from the saftey of his car. The news item was headed "Wrong drone"
 
Personally I think your attitude sucks. You could have returned it but didn't. That's tantamount to theft in my opinion. My first quadcopter was delivered on Wednesday, and I still haven't flown it due to the wind. However I already have bought 5 million pounds worth of public liability insurance. How do you know he didn't?

To be fair to you, despite your spurious accusation, you sound like a responsible person who flies these models with consideration for others. I cannot imagine you would fly one over other peoples land without permission, or anywhere that could potentially result in damage to other peoples property or in a way which breached their privacy.

The problem is, not everyone is like that. The model in question is a 10cm square plastic drone which was smashed to pieces after impacting my car and drive. I'd make an educated guess that public liability insurance is not on the owners radar, nor ever will be. It was flown over my property without permission, recording video showing the interior of my house and then proceeding to damage my car. If it had hit someone on the head, or something similar, no amount of insurance will make up for that. I don't want to sound like one of the "you'll have someones eye out with that" brigade. I'm not into calling for bans on other peoples hobbies, but as drones become more prevalent, it is only a matter of time before someone is seriously hurt. The cheaper end of the market is where the main risk is, not in you guys who spend hundreds, if not thousands, on specialist models to carry your Go-Pro. I liken it to kids owning a Gat-Gun in the 70's/80's, versus someone owning a proper rifle. Who was most likely to shoot someone in the bottom for a laugh?...and who would be far more likely to carry appropriate insurance?

I see what you are saying but I was not sure precisely where the model came from and I'm not about to go hunting around for a specific house, wasting my own time, to give back a non functional wreck of a model which they recently used to damage my property. I have to be honest, even if it was working, it is not my responsibility to go searching for the owner. If they were responsible, they would know where it had gone, come and ask, then be granted it's return, further to payment for damage caused. By rights, I could have gone to the police and had it been a more serious class of drone, it may have been necessary to do so as the damage could have been thousands of pounds.

Instead of complaining at me for not returning a misused drone, you really should be looking to complain about the idiots who use them in this manner. Because as sure as eggs is eggs, they will be responsible for your hobby being legally regulated beyond belief, and in short order. My understanding is that it is already heading that way now and if the responsible users of drones don't put pressure in the right places, you may find they are subject to an outright ban, as has happened to others peoples hobbies in the past, due to the actions of a few irresponsible individuals.

I think drones are a great idea and have a somewhat useful function. I often fancied having an R/C helicopter for filming fly bys. Never got around to it. Like any R/C model, be it plane, helicopter or car, they just need someone with a brain behind the controls.
 
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Obvious solution would be to hand it in to plod along with a complaint against the owner (and a claim if there was any damage to your car). As CaveDweller said, the operator wasn't following the rules governing their use and should (like Ricardo) be insured. It's people like him/her (the operator, not Ricardo!!!) who will get the things more heavily controlled by laws rather than suggested rules.

I've only just read this. I must have missed it. You're right but the problem is if I go and do that over minor damage, it would go down as a statistic against quadcopters. I've nothing against them or their (responsible) users and I am sick and tired of the nanny state over regulating everything, believe me I have more reason than most to say this. Ricardo was being defensive of his hobby, which I understand to a point. I have also been defensive of it, by not involving the police. Ricardo perhaps did not think of this before he posted. Involving the police would waste everybody's time and I think the loss of the drone would teach the user a lesson anyway.

Your final point I agree with completely, as per my previous post. It's virtually guaranteed to happen and anger must be directed at the correct people!
 
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been looking for quite some time now. asked the missus for a go pro alike for christmas and fingers crossed shes got me the sjcam sj4000 wifi which is less than half the price than a go pro ( around £70 for the wifi one ) but apparantly exceptional quality.
so now with that hopefully under the tree decided to bite the bullet and get me a quad.
couldnt afford a DJI phantom so spent alot of time hunting around and researching and now have winging its way to me a Cheerson CX-20 with the big shark controller .

looking forward to getting out with it and getting some aerial footage though think will spent a good few weeks first just getting to grips before i even consider strapping on the camera.

Glad you are happy with your new purchase. Sorry for the thread semi-hijack.
 
To be fair to you, despite your spurious accusation, you sound like a responsible person who flies these models with consideration for others. I cannot imagine you would fly one over other peoples land without permission, or anywhere that could potentially result in damage to other peoples property or in a way which breached their privacy.

The problem is, not everyone is like that. The model in question is a 10cm square plastic drone which was smashed to pieces after impacting my car and drive. I'd make an educated guess that public liability insurance is not on the owners radar, nor ever will be. It was flown over my property without permission, recording video showing the interior of my house and then proceeding to damage my car. If it had hit someone on the head, or something similar, no amount of insurance will make up for that. I don't want to sound like one of the "you'll have someones eye out with that" brigade. I'm not into calling for bans on other peoples hobbies, but as drones become more prevalent, it is only a matter of time before someone is seriously hurt. The cheaper end of the market is where the main risk is, not in you guys who spend hundreds, if not thousands, on specialist models to carry your Go-Pro. I liken it to kids owning a Gat-Gun in the 70's/80's, versus someone owning a proper rifle. Who was most likely to shoot someone in the bottom for a laugh?...and who would be far more likely to carry appropriate insurance?

I see what you are saying but I was not sure precisely where the model came from and I'm not about to go hunting around for a specific house, wasting my own time, to give back a non functional wreck of a model which they recently used to damage my property. I have to be honest, even if it was working, it is not my responsibility to go searching for the owner. If they were responsible, they would know where it had gone, come and ask, then be granted it's return, further to payment for damage caused. By rights, I could have gone to the police and had it been a more serious class of drone, it may have been necessary to do so as the damage could have been thousands of pounds.

Instead of complaining at me for not returning a misused drone, you really should be looking to complain about the idiots who use them in this manner. Because as sure as eggs is eggs, they will be responsible for your hobby being legally regulated beyond belief, and in short order. My understanding is that it is already heading that way now and if the responsible users of drones don't put pressure in the right places, you may find they are subject to an outright ban, as has happened to others peoples hobbies in the past, due to the actions of a few irresponsible individuals.

I think drones are a great idea and have a somewhat useful function. I often fancied having an R/C helicopter for filming fly bys. Never got around to it. Like any R/C model, be it plane, helicopter or car, they just need someone with a brain behind the controls.


That's a well thought out and very reasonable reply. And sorry if I came across as aggressive earlier. You are right of course, there will be idiots who show no care or consideration. Hopefully that will quickly get bored and move on to something less potentially hazardous.
 
Fingers crossed.

I've been very tempted to get one but don't want to be saddled with £???? of unusable kit because some f***wit has ignored the rules and got the things banned.
 
And that is your only contribution to this thread.
Trolltastic.
My response was merely an observation of your behaviour but hey if you are gonna start name calling.!
Playtime over your teacher will be missing you ;)
 
Fingers crossed.

I've been very tempted to get one but don't want to be saddled with £???? of unusable kit because some f***wit has ignored the rules and got the things banned.


The existing laws concerning model aircraft have been round a long time. I think you'll styart to see more people getting fined and stricter enforment due to f***wits. But I doubt they'll be banned
 
My response was merely an observation of your behaviour but hey if you are gonna start name calling.!
Playtime over your teacher will be missing you ;)

Ok.......


So, do you have anything to contribute to the subject matter of the thread?
 
Been enjoying learning with the Phantom 2. Very excited about tomorrow, my Inspire 1 gets delivered.
 
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