Rumoured new Nikon glass 2009/10

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From the same (Polish) source as the rumours about the dslr range....

AF-S Nikkor 14 to 28 mm f/3.5-4.5G ED
AF-S Nikkor 120 to 450 mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR
AF-S Nikkor 300 mm f/4G VR
AF-S Nikkor VR 400 mm f/5.6G
AF-S Nikkor 70 to 240 mm f/3.5-4.5G VR
AF-S Nikkor 105 mm f/2G DC
AF-S Nikkor 24 to 85 mm f/4G VR
AF-S DX Nikkor 60 to 95 mm f/2G VR
AF-S DX Nikkor 17-60 mm f/2.8G VR.
 
AF-S Nikkor 120 to 450 mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR

I was expecting this Q1 this year. I mentioned that the 80-400 VR replacement would not be quite 80-400 VR but its all gone quiet on this, and it did occur to me I may have been hoaxed. But this gels with was I think I saw in October 2008...

Many of the others I think are fantasy lenses and make no sense, inc. "AF-S DX Nikkor 60 to 95 mm f/2G VR" - not a hope in hell.
 
puddleduck said:
AF-S Nikkor 120 to 450 mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR

I was expecting this Q1 this year. I mentioned that the 80-400 VR replacement would not be quite 80-400 VR but its all gone quiet on this, and it did occur to me I may have been hoaxed. But this gels with was I think I saw in October 2008...

Many of the others I think are fantasy lenses and make no sense, inc. "AF-S DX Nikkor 60 to 95 mm f/2G VR" - not a hope in hell.
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Some of them do sound fairly plausible though.....
 
Flash In The Pan said:
Some of them do sound fairly plausible though.....
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Only these 3 to me:

AF-S DX Nikkor 17-60 mm f/2.8G VR
AF-S Nikkor 24 to 85 mm f/4G VR
AF-S Nikkor 120 to 450 mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR

The only one I would go out on a limb on and publically eat my hat (and take photos of me doing it!) if it doesn't come out will be the 80-400 VR replacement.

Some of the others feel like "me too" wish list lenses to match Canon, and Nikon doesn't do that...
 
puddleduck said:
The only one I would go out on a limb on and publically eat my hat (and take photos of me doing it!) if it doesn't come out will be the 80-400 VR replacement.

Some of the others feel like "me too" wish list lenses to match Canon, and Nikon doesn't do that...
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Do you know weather the new 80-400 will be AF-S or not ?
 
puddleduck said:
The only one I would go out on a limb on and publically eat my hat (and take photos of me doing it!) if it doesn't come out will be the 80-400 VR replacement.
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would you sell tickets per chance? :D

would love to see an updated 85 1.4 from them as well but thats just wishful thinking

Hugh
 
Hertsman said:
Ta.

Care to take a guess at cost ?
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I really have no idea. I saw the D3X about 2 months before it was announced and both myself and the tester had no idea about how pricey it would be. We both thought around £3k!

FYI NDA field testers are not told about prices -a) because the price is not known 6 to 9 months before launch b) thats a marketing decision, not an engineering decision.

And I guess that if one knew the price it might influence feedback.
 
NorthernNikon said:
As in a "me too, we'll be the first to produce one" moment? :thinking:
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Everything is "me too". Liveview is ubiquitous, sensor cleaning is ubiquitous, AF fine tune is ubiquitous.

All models have a feature added within a few months of someone else doing it first.

Doesn't matter if most folks use it - just a marketing checklist tickbox.

Video is going to be ubiquitous, even though IMHO you'd have to be a dozy twonk to want that in a DSLR :lol:
 
puddleduck said:
Video is going to be ubiquitous, even though IMHO you'd have to be a dozy twonk to want that in a DSLR :lol:
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Reasons why video in a DSLR is popular:

  1. Large sensor
  2. Excellent high ISO performance
  3. Interchangeable lenses
  4. Excellent DoF possibilities
  5. Cheap compared to equivalent video cameras

I'm waiting for video in the Canon 60D and I'll most probably buy one just for this feature. For a photographer it might be a useless "extra" if all you do is take pictures, but there are other people out there who will make full use of the video feature with excellent results.

I hope to be one of them :)
 
I'm quite interested by these parts:

"F-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II
revised lens for maximum optical performance in the digital FX zrcadlovkách Nikon,
VR II for up to 4 stops, filtrov thread 82 mm, 1530 g, Nano - Crystal Coat, enhance contrast-detect AF-S mode

AF-S Nikkor 85 mm f/1.4G:
top portrait lens with SWM focus and Nano - Crystal Coat, enhance contrast-detect AF-S mode"

Two of the best, which may hopefully get even better with the addition of VRII and nano respectively. Looks like mid-October was the date bandied for these. If this is at all credible it puts a serious kibosh on my plan to get the 70-200, and will be a big issue for Nikon in general.
 
py6km said:
I'm quite interested by these parts:

"F-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II
revised lens for maximum optical performance in the digital FX zrcadlovkách Nikon,
VR II for up to 4 stops, filtrov thread 82 mm, 1530 g, Nano - Crystal Coat, enhance contrast-detect AF-S mode
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82mm...when Nikon have standardized all the pro glass at 77mm :thinking: :shrug:
 
Flash In The Pan said:
82mm...when Nikon have standardized all the pro glass at 77mm :thinking: :shrug:
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Yeah, not sure about that. It does say the lens is a little shorter than the version we have now (assuming that there is indeed a 'new' version), so perhaps the larger front end, and hence 82mm filter, is a result of fitting more stuff into a shorter lens..?
 
py6km said:
Yeah, not sure about that. It does say the lens is a little shorter than the version we have now (assuming that there is indeed a 'new' version), so perhaps the larger front end, and hence 82mm filter, is a result of fitting more stuff into a shorter lens..?
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Can't see Nikon doing that,there's no need for an 82mm front element on a 200mm f/2.8 lens anyway, it only needs to be 72mm, but as I said in my previous post, all the Nikon pro stuff has been standardized to 77mm, so why make one of their best sellers in an odd size? All that would do is irritate their pro customers...
 
Looking at it from the opposite tack, if it were a hoax, would it not have been easier to list the lens spec with a 77mm thread :shrug:
 
Flash In The Pan said:
From the same (Polish) source as the rumours about the dslr range....

AF-S Nikkor 14 to 28 mm f/3.5-4.5G ED
AF-S Nikkor 120 to 450 mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR
AF-S Nikkor 300 mm f/4G VR
AF-S Nikkor VR 400 mm f/5.6G
AF-S Nikkor 70 to 240 mm f/3.5-4.5G VR
AF-S Nikkor 105 mm f/2G DC
AF-S Nikkor 24 to 85 mm f/4G VR
AF-S DX Nikkor 60 to 95 mm f/2G VR
AF-S DX Nikkor 17-60 mm f/2.8G VR.
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The leaked document on which this is based (here) has a slightly longer list, with the release schedule. It seems that what Flash posted is just the 2010 list; there are still some more due in 2009:

It says:
October 2009:
AF-S Nikkor 24 to 135 mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR
AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II
AF-S Nikkor 35 mm f/1.4G,
AF-S Nikkor 85 mm f/1.4G

Q1/2010:
AF-S Nikkor 14 to 28 mm f/3.5-4.5G ED
AF-S Nikkor 120 to 450 mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR

Q3/2010 time:
AF-S Nikkor 300 mm f/4G VR
Nikkor AF-S VR 400 mm f/5.6G
AF-S Nikkor 70 to 240 mm f/3.5-4.5G VR
AF-S Nikkor 105 mm f/2G DC
AF-S Nikkor 24 to 85 mm f/4G VR
AF-S DX Nikkor 60 to 95 mm f/2G VR
AF-S DX Nikkor 17-60 mm f/2.8G VR
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Personally I'm struggling to believe that Nikon have the resources to introduce 9 new designs in a year. In recent years the numbers of new lenses they've introduced (including teleconverters and refreshes of existing designs) have been:

2000 - 6
2001 - 6
2002 - 3
2003 - 7
2004 - 4
2005 - 3
2006 - 4
2007 - 7
2008 - 7
2009 - 2 so far

9 new lenses in 2010 would require a serious ramping-up of their design resources, to the point where their capability must exceed Canon's by a considerable margin. Possible, I guess, but how likely is that in a global recession?
 
StewartR said:
9 new lenses in 2010 would require a serious ramping-up of their design resources, to the point where their capability must exceed Canon's by a considerable margin. Possible, I guess, but how likely is that in a global recession?
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Have to agree with that Stewart, I usually take all this internet rumour with the big pinch of salt it deserves.
 
...of those only the 17-60 would be on my shopping list...
 
None of them interest me - ironically if Nikon are moving to video then "G" lenses really are not appropriate as the mount doesn't allow aperture to be controlled dynamically.

They need to bring back aperture rings so a videographer can change aperture doing a video shoot :)

-Andy
 
puddleduck said:
None of them interest me - ironically if Nikon are moving to video then "G" lenses really are not appropriate as the mount doesn't allow aperture to be controlled dynamically.

They need to bring back aperture rings so a videographer can change aperture doing a video shoot :)

-Andy
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Interesting point. We often get enquiries from people who want to hire lenses for video work, and it's always almost the old-style (non-"G") Nikons which are in demand - presumably for exactly this reason. I've sometimes thought we should invest in a decent set or two of non-"G" Nikon primes before they disappear....
 
puddleduck said:
Some of the others feel like "me too" wish list lenses to match Canon, and Nikon doesn't do that...
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When I read that list yesterday I though the same to be honest... surprised it didn't also contain a 24-105 f4 VR and a 70-200 f4 VR2 to fit with that pattern.

Specifically the 120-450 and the 400 5.6 stood out as a "Canon wannabe".

Having said that, the 120-450 would definitely sell in bucket loads I suspect, even though I would have thought it to deliver slightly less IQ than the current 70-300 VR for about the thousand pound mark...
 
Actually, the more I look at this list, the more it starts to look like someone's wish list - and perhaps someone who wishes Nikon's ranges was more like Canon's. Or perhaps someone who's getting flak about the comparison with Sony's in-body image stabilisation, so the soluton is VR with everything. Does that make it more or less plausible? I can't tell.

AF-S Nikkor 24 to 135 mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR - This is a bit weird. The 24-120mm VR was only introduced in 2003. Does it really need to be replaced yet?

AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II - An upgrade to the 70-200, primarily for FX users, has been talked about for ages and is on so many people's wishlists.

AF-S Nikkor 35 mm f/1.4G - Canon make fast primes, and I've never understood why Nikon don't. I imagine this would be popular.

AF-S Nikkor 85 mm f/1.4G - Is this a priority to ugrade? I'd have thought the pros who use it would be more tolerant of the old design than consumers, so putting AF-S in consumer lenses would be more of a priority perhaps.

AF-S Nikkor 14 to 28 mm f/3.5-4.5G ED - I'm struggling with this one. A 14mm FX zoom can't possibly be very cheap, so how will this sit alongside the 14-24mm f/2.8?

AF-S Nikkor 120 to 450 mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR - Obviously a replacement for the 80-400VR is long overdue. Maybe it will actually happen next year.

AF-S Nikkor 300 mm f/4G VR - Canon's 300mm f/4 has IS, so maybe Nikon need it too. Hopefully they mighht even start manufacturing the things too - the current 300mm f/4 is impossible to get hold of.

Nikkor AF-S VR 400 mm f/5.6G - Canon have a 400mm f/5.6, so maybe Nikon need one too. Though VR might compromise the design (and increase the price) compared to Canon's stripped-down effort.

AF-S Nikkor 70 to 240 mm f/3.5-4.5G VR - Right, Canon make a whole load of 70-200 zooms, and they have a range of pro quality f/4 lenses, but we don't want to make it look too much like we're copying them do we?

AF-S Nikkor 105 mm f/2G DC - Is there still demand for soft-focus lenses?

AF-S Nikkor 24 to 85 mm f/4G VR - Designed to compete with Canon's 24-105mm f'/4 L IS?

AF-S DX Nikkor 60 to 95 mm f/2G VR - Err... who wants this? What is it for?

AF-S DX Nikkor 17-60 mm f/2.8G VR - Canon's equivalent 17-55 has IS, so obviously Nikon need to copy that, even thoug this design is only 6 years old.
 
py6km said:
I'm quite interested by these parts:

AF-S Nikkor 85 mm f/1.4G:
top portrait lens with SWM focus and Nano - Crystal Coat, enhance contrast-detect AF-S mode"
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If this is true and they going to release an updated 85mm F/1.4 - that's great news. Hopefully the existing AF-D version then will come down in price to an affordable level (ao I can finally get my hands on one ;))
 
You got to love the internet :D

A while back there was a similar thing happen, the author claimed to be a Vice President of National Geographic, and a Consultant to Nikon (or something similar), turned out to be an insecure teenager on an ego trip, trying to build some self esteem.

Its the 21st Century version of cheery knocking, only you can get more people to answer the door on the web.
 
dalex_257 said:
If this is true and they going to release an updated 85mm F/1.4 - that's great news. Hopefully the existing AF-D version then will come down in price to an affordable level (ao I can finally get my hands on one ;))
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Does the 85mm f/1.4 need updating?

Remember, the two new AF-S primes (50mm and 35mm) focus slower than the older AF-D.
 
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