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Not the norm to post about a new model but Skoda keep upping their game and have new models just out. They really are a class car these days but I'm guessing some still 'look down' on the Skoda badge. Their cars are up at the top of reliability tables with the large Audis (A4,A6) the E-Class Mercs and the Jaguar well down and they're down,in the main, to over reaching on electronics.We got a taxi from the airport in Tenerife last year..November..and it was an Audi A6. We really liked it, so roomy.The driver said his boss used to have the Mercedes E-Class but the fleet was continually having electrical problems and time off gthe road is money to a taxi company so he sold them and bought the A6 which the driver said was very good and they hadn't had any problems with it. I've read otherwise. I'm torn between this latest Skoda Octavia Superb ( SE L) and the A6. My wife likes the Superb as she's had two...three including our current one .We currently have the Octavia 2.0L (makes a difference to the 1.5)and automatic. We'll sell it next year. My heart is with the A6 but my head is with the Superb. I've read so many negative reports on the reliability of the Merc E-Class that I've discounted that on the grounds of common sense.It would be two hears old anyway as they depreciate rapidly in the first couple of years and someone with deeper pockets than ours can take the hit.Lol. A lovely car...but...

March 2024: I've seen a very smart colour. Moon White.
The Superb https://www.skoda-auto.com/models/range/superb

The Kodiaq. Just look at the price. Skodas used to be cheap years ago.

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We purchased our 2005 1.9 Skoda Octavia diesel in 2012 with 91K on the clock for £3K. It now has 207K on the clock and has been all over Europe. It is by far the best car we have ever owned. Anyone who still looks down on or sneers at Skodas, is IMHO an idiot, or maybe jealous.
 
skoda is ok
looking at maybe buying a fabia for the greek house later this year
 
Skoda part of the VWAUDI group so use many parts the common across the group, when I worked in a parts dept at Kia I bought parts from Škoda at a better price than others in the group yet they came in a VWAUDI pack, similar cars better value.
 
We've had a 2006 Octavia 1.9TD auto estate since we moved to France in early 2012. It is a lovely car and has been very reliable. Coming up 200k miles now and still looks and drives well. The trim is what would be described as L&K in Britain, i.e. all leather trim and all the accessories. Before we emigrated the wife had a Seat Ibiza that was also a cracking car. Really solidly built and far more stylish than the Polo it was based on.
 
I had an Octavia VrS Estate which was awesome - until the electrics went. All sorts of lights coming on at random and car switching into limp home mode now and again. Nobody could trace the fault so I sold it to a dealer and replaced it with an even more awesome diesel DSG VrS, which was amazing - until the electrics went...............

While they work they are brilliant but I got "unlucky" twice and they lied to me about the diesel so I think I'll stay away from Skoda for a while.
 
JonathanRyan said:
I had an Octavia VrS Estate which was awesome - until the electrics went. All sorts of lights coming on at random and car switching into limp home mode now and again. Nobody could trace the fault so I sold it to a dealer and replaced it with an even more awesome diesel DSG VrS, which was amazing - until the electrics went...............

While they work they are brilliant but I got "unlucky" twice and they lied to me about the diesel so I think I'll stay away from Skoda for a while.
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We have a 68 plate Karoq 2L 4X4 diesel. It's a lovely car in terms of comfort and spaciousness, and it's great eating up the miles on the autoroute heavily laden with furniture and people. Handling is acceptable if you're OK with squashy, but body roll is well controlled, it stops and goes more than adequately.

But electrics. There has been an intermittent fault with the door locking, where sometimes it will just lock the doors, and occasionally a key press fails to unlock the drivers door requiring one to have to use other doors or even the boot. The other irritation, and the one that would make me look at non-VW group cars in the future, is the ICE and control system, where things are badly laid out and making changes while driving requires far too much concentration for safety. The previous mini had a BMW design that was enormously superior. Also at almost 70K miles it's starting to creak and rattle a bit, and that's annoying too.

I'd have another at the right price, but will definitely be looking at non-VW cars closely next time.
 
ancient_mariner said:
We have a 68 plate Karoq 2L 4X4 diesel. It's a lovely car in terms of comfort and spaciousness, and it's great eating up the miles on the autoroute heavily laden with furniture and people. Handling is acceptable if you're OK with squashy, but body roll is well controlled, it stops and goes more than adequately.

But electrics. There has been an intermittent fault with the door locking, where sometimes it will just lock the doors, and occasionally a key press fails to unlock the drivers door requiring one to have to use other doors or even the boot. The other irritation, and the one that would make me look at non-VW group cars in the future, is the ICE and control system, where things are badly laid out and making changes while driving requires far too much concentration for safety. The previous mini had a BMW design that was enormously superior. Also at almost 70K miles it's starting to creak and rattle a bit, and that's annoying too.

I'd have another at the right price, but will definitely be looking at non-VW cars closely next time.
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My bold. We bought ours in July 2020 just before the upgrade..it was new but six months after purchase the auto-door locks, which activated after driving off, just kept activating. They put that right ..had to replace 'a chip' and then the rear wiper motor died. Mmmm. I'd forgotten about them. Maybe the A6, after all... :D

Btw. It was my wife who kept looking at the Skoda..she had one already (automatic) and I said OK..but it has to be a 2.0 L engine because it didn't have a particular DSG gearbox in it that's in the 1.5 Lt that even the Auto magazines highlighted as a 'worry'. I kept telling my wife that when I drive her car and stopped at a roundabout when I put my foot on ther accelerator there was a delay before it would pick up so you'd have a problem if a vehicle came round the roundabout quickly. It was like a 'dead spot . It happened when she was driving one day an d then she acknowledged I was right. I did a lot of reading up on it and one very good writer..'Honest John'...just like me..Lol..cautioned buyers about the problem and said that the only way to not experience it was to buy the 2.0L engine which had a different gearbox. He was right. Annoyingly, when I asked the salesman if the car we were looking at had the 2.0L engine I told him why and he said he'd never heard of the DQ200..didn't know what I was talking about. That just couldn't have been true. VW were trying to address the problem.

The best I can find re why the 2.0L doesn't have the problem is that it has a "wet" clutch whereas the 15.L has a dry clutch..The DQ200. Avoid it said Honest John. He's retired since. One last Google and I found the very article. https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/advice/owning-advice/dsg-gearbox/
From the article:
Clutch issues

The twin clutch arrangement that is common to all kinds of DSG transmissions can result in excessive wear, which causes the gearbox to be hesitant or fail completely. Owner's experiences have shown that this is more common in the dry-clutch DQ200 gearbox, although it can still be a problem in other wet-clutch variants if the oil service schedule has not been followed. Clutch actuator failure can also cause harsh gearshifts or an inability to select certain gears.
 
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Graham W said:
When I take the rear seats out of my Karoq they have VW printed on them.
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We [my ex-wife and I] bought a 1997 SEAT Toledo in 2004 as a "family" car after her Golf got rear ended. I took it over as my daily car in 2009 when I took my Mk1 escort off the road to restore and after a divorce in 2013 I kept it until 2017 when it just had a good few things broken/damaged which were just difficult to fix & difficulty getting the Toledo body parts so it was replaced. Everything mechanical though was stamped VW/Audi and it was a good car at the time. Bought it one previous owner, 31,000 miles & FDSH.....
 
I was a big fan of the previous gen Superb, would have ended up with one tro replace my OG9-5 Aero had I not got the new gen 9-5..... As the NG is coming to the age and mileage that makes me worry about my salary I think that this next 12 months will be the last year the family has owned a Saab since 1982.

Unfortunately new generation Superb is limited to the 1.5 petrol at the moment. We have the similarish engine (the 1.4) in our Golf and it is great, but for long drives the 2-litres are far more relaxing. Which leaves the A6 as the next option, but that will have to be the 3.0V6 (I have the V6 scratch to itch). I hope the seats in the Superb and A6 are better than those in the Golf/Passat as they are comfortable only for 2 hour stints....

I am with the OP, since the Octavia came out Skoda have come on in leaps and bounds, they were no joke then and definitely no joke now (the Passat is made in the same plant as the Octavia and Superb I believe). Shame the Superb is a bit of a naff name, should have gone with the concept's name 'Montreux'..
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I picked up a brand new Audi Q2 at the beginning of February. 1.5 TFSI 150bhp 7 speed DSG. I was worried that I would miss the 2.0 235bhp Mini JCW Clubman, but I haven't, other than that lovely engine note. I've been very surprised how well this 1.5 picks up and goes, the boot is bigger, it's easier to get in and out of as my back sometimes gives me stick. The ICE system isn't as intuitive as the Mini/BMW system, like I can't find a way to put an intermediate destination in the satnav to go a particular route. However the Sonos sound system is brilliant, and the ability to have the map in the main cluster display (as well as the main screen) is just brilliant.

Never had an Audi before, but the Mrs is thinking of looking at an A1 when we move on her 2011 Mini.
 
I've never been an Audi fan, but my current one has been the most reliable car to date, beating many Honda models I've previously had. It's only made in one factory in Germany though, unlike the standard models that are made around the world; whether or not that has any bearing I don't know.

The A6 is a nice looking car, I prefer it to the Superb but you'll probably get better value for money with the latter. One car that really caught my eye the other day is the Peugeot 508. Lovely looking car.
 
gman said:
One car that really caught my eye the other day is the Peugeot 508.
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I've had pugs in the past, and would be cautious about another. Electrics and brakes (warping discs) plus deterioration of suspension and ride quality over several years were issues. I was amazed at how my mini countryman still drove so nearly like a new car at 90k miles compared to the 307 that felt worn out at the same distance.
 
ancient_mariner said:
I've had pugs in the past, and would be cautious about another. Electrics and brakes (warping discs) plus deterioration of suspension and ride quality over several years were issues. I was amazed at how my mini countryman still drove so nearly like a new car at 90k miles compared to the 307 that felt worn out at the same distance.
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Crickey, are they still that bad then? My mate has a '17 208 GTi and it's been faultless despite being driven fairly hard.
 
gman said:
Crickey, are they still that bad then? My mate has a '17 208 GTi and it's been faultless despite being driven fairly hard.
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peugeot and citroen are the same and are a value brand
comparing a mini countryman though to a 308 is like comparing lambrini to champagne its over twice the price.
 
Mr Bump said:
peugeot and citroen are the same and are a value brand
comparing a mini countryman though to a 308 is like comparing lambrini to champagne its over twice the price.
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I wouldn't say it's twice the price, but having been a very happy Mini owner for many years (I've had 5) the last one being a JCW Clubman, this time around, I just couldn't see the value in a new Cooper S Countryman, even a 10k JCW Countryman was overpriced for what they are, and I don't like the direction Mini are going in currently. I've had 2 French cars, both company supplied, a Citroen BX19 TDi & A Pug 405 estate. Both were bloody awful and I vowed never to touch a French car again. The BX lost it's suspension gas/fluid while I was on the M1. It got lower & lower until I managed to get it into some services. Scary!
 
Jelster said:
I wouldn't say it's twice the price, but having been a very happy Mini owner for many years (I've had 5) the last one being a JCW Clubman, this time around, I just couldn't see the value in a new Cooper S Countryman, even a 10k JCW Countryman was overpriced for what they are, and I don't like the direction Mini are going in currently. I've had 2 French cars, both company supplied, a Citroen BX19 TDi & A Pug 405 estate. Both were bloody awful and I vowed never to touch a French car again. The BX lost it's suspension gas/fluid while I was on the M1. It got lower & lower until I managed to get it into some services. Scary!
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I had a BX, 2 off 406s and a 307. But Paul is right about them being built down to a price.
 
I'm awaiting my new Skoda Scala, ordered in February, due to be built next week, delivery end of May. I had to wait until the new facelift orders were open, so I've had to wait an extra 6 months for my new one. It is the second Scala for me. I have had Skoda's of various guises for over 20 years. I like to upset Audi drivers by telling them that their petrol engine is a Skoda under the bonnet, they make all the petrol engines for VAG. VW make all the diesel engines across VAG.

I wouldn't touch Vauxhall, Peugeot, Citroen & Renault with a barge pole, since they are all owned by the same group. Reliability is very hit and miss, where I work we have extremely high mileage very hard run cars, sometimes they fall apart within their first 3000 miles. By the time they get to 100k they are rolling wrecks, even after only 3 years of life.
 
welshwizard645 said:
I was a big fan of the previous gen Superb, would have ended up with one tro replace my OG9-5 Aero had I not got the new gen 9-5..... As the NG is coming to the age and mileage that makes me worry about my salary I think that this next 12 months will be the last year the family has owned a Saab since 1982.

Unfortunately new generation Superb is limited to the 1.5 petrol at the moment. We have the similarish engine (the 1.4) in our Golf and it is great, but for long drives the 2-litres are far more relaxing. Which leaves the A6 as the next option, but that will have to be the 3.0V6 (I have the V6 scratch to itch). I hope the seats in the Superb and A6 are better than those in the Golf/Passat as they are comfortable only for 2 hour stints....
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My bold. I didn't realise that. As you say, the 2.0L is far better, especially for long journeys and not to overlook that the acceleration is much better than the 1.5l,too. I've always looked on that as a safety plus. Also, it's a big car and, in my opinion(and I'm no petrol head...lol) a car that size really needs more than a 1.5L engine in terms of pulling power and less wear on it. This needs a re-think,. I see the diesel version doe have a 2.0L engine but I wouldn't have a diesel not least because eventually they sound like a tractor.

The A6 3.0L V6 sounds a dream.

It seems that there's no 2.0L petrol because of the latest,stringent EU emmision regulations. Every cloud had a silver lining,as they say..this has taken away my dilemma..Audi A6 or Superb SE L. It's not lost on me ..if that's all I've got to concern myself with ...:rolleyes:
 
Humphrey said:
I'm awaiting my new Skoda Scala, ordered in February, due to be built next week, delivery end of May. I had to wait until the new facelift orders were open, so I've had to wait an extra 6 months for my new one. It is the second Scala for me. I have had Skoda's of various guises for over 20 years. I like to upset Audi drivers by telling them that their petrol engine is a Skoda under the bonnet, they make all the petrol engines for VAG. VW make all the diesel engines across VAG.

I wouldn't touch Vauxhall, Peugeot, Citroen & Renault with a barge pole, since they are all owned by the same group. Reliability is very hit and miss, where I work we have extremely high mileage very hard run cars, sometimes they fall apart within their first 3000 miles. By the time they get to 100k they are rolling wrecks, even after only 3 years of life.
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My bold. I hadn't heard of the Scala. I Googled it and it looks really good. Very good reviews by What Car ? Enjoy :)
 
They are not very popular in the UK, but they sell loads in Europe. I like it, plenty of room, I'm 6'1" and their is plenty of legroom front and back and it is very economical, 60+ mpg on a motorway run and 45 - 50 around town. They say they aren't as sporty as a Golf or Focus, so cheaper insurance and I'm not bothered about being first away from the lights!
 
Humphrey said:
I'm awaiting my new Skoda Scala, ordered in February, due to be built next week, delivery end of May. I had to wait until the new facelift orders were open, so I've had to wait an extra 6 months for my new one. It is the second Scala for me. I have had Skoda's of various guises for over 20 years. I like to upset Audi drivers by telling them that their petrol engine is a Skoda under the bonnet, they make all the petrol engines for VAG. VW make all the diesel engines across VAG.

I wouldn't touch Vauxhall, Peugeot, Citroen & Renault with a barge pole, since they are all owned by the same group. Reliability is very hit and miss, where I work we have extremely high mileage very hard run cars, sometimes they fall apart within their first 3000 miles. By the time they get to 100k they are rolling wrecks, even after only 3 years of life.
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Sorry to burst your little bubble, but re. petrol it's only the little EA 211 engines; 3 and 4 cylinder up to 1.6 litres and only very recently does it include forced induction that have been assigned to Skoda. Also, the platforms tend to be VW.

My petrol engine is the CREC designated one and has nothing to do with Skoda, in fact there's lots of shared parts in my car with Porsche, not that it really matters because all the tech and parts bin is ultimately VW Group.
 
I used to be car mad but haven't kept up in recent years. I do however know that for quite some time Skoda have offered the best ownership experience in the VW group. They don't make anything I'm interested in buying but I do think Skodas are worth a look if you're interested in a VW family product.
 
Just a clarification as someone :ROFLMAO: at my above post...

I'm not disparaging Skoda at all and indeed just the opposite as they do apparently offer the best ownership experience of the VW group, it's just simply that they don't make anything I personally want to own.
 
You do indeed but believe it or not I didn't want to name you. I was trying to be polite.

Good enough for you?

If not how about you pick up that spat out dummy and act like an adult?

Jeez. More of my time wasted :oops: :$
 
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woof woof said:
You do indeed but believe it or not I didn't want to name you. I was trying to be polite.

Good enough for you?

If not how about you pick up that spat out dummy and act like an adult?

Jeez. More of my time wasted :oops: :$
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lol, nice try Alan.
 
To be fair, it could have been you or Andy that put that like emoticon there.
 
I have had 2 Skoda’s. The first one was a 2015 Diesal Octavia VRS. They are basically a Golf GTD in a bigger body. It was a decent car but I don’t really get along with diesels so it wasn’t long before I got itchy feet.

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The second Skoda I had was also an Octavia VRS. This time though it was a special edition 245bhp petrol which is basically the same as Golf GTI with performance pack. It was a nice car. Even thought it was only a Skoda lots of people passed comment on it. I liked it but probably because it was a similar car to the diesel I upgraded from it wasn’t long before I got itchy feet again. A stage 1 remap made this one a lot more responsive and pretty decent to drive.

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Both cars were pretty reliable, a common fault on all VAG cars of this generation is the silica bag inside the water bottle bursting and filling the heater matrix with silica. That’s an expensive job to fix. I changed out the bottle on both to upgraded non silica bag bottles after purchase so that this wouldn’t happen. The newer petrol VRS is also a bit funny about what brake pads are used. Tried a few and they all squeaked like hell including brembos. Eventually changed to oem pads with no problems.

With the VAG group gone fully electric pretty much now can’t see me ever owning another one.
 
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Is that moon white metallic ? The reason I ask is when I was looking at the 2024 Superb the L&K colours came up and yours just looks like the same colour.
 
ancient_mariner said:
I had a BX, 2 off 406s and a 307. But Paul is right about them being built down to a price.
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cars are just things pay more generally you get a better car but you also invest in greater upkeep costs
the reason i tend to like lower cost cars / basic is the cheaper upkeep costs.
when i went to buy my current C3 everyone was saying i needed the 1.2 turbo version
i said no and just have the naturally aspirated version
its slower but way less stressed and less to go wrong
i have had about 7 citroens in a row now all the way back to xantias and they are ok
 
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andya700 said:
The Porsche Meteor Grey looks a lot darker than the Skoda Meteor Grey (which is a special Skoda paint finish).

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Porsche don't call Skoda meteor grey by the same name they call it something else. Yes I know it's confusing :ROFLMAO:

Thats the V.A.G group for you, always trying to overly complicate things.

Had the same thing with an Aud TT I had once there was a blue colour that was used by Audi, Volkswagon, Seat and Porsche. Same colour and each had their own name for it. While using the Audi colour name for completely different colours throughout the other brands.
 
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Porsche don't call Skoda meteor grey by the same name they call it something else. Yes I know it's confusing :ROFLMAO:

Thats the V.A.G group for you, always trying to overly complicate things.

Had the same thing with an Aud TT I had once there was a blue colour that was used by Audi, Volkswagon, Seat and Porsche. Same colour and each had their own name for it. While using the Audi colour name for completely different colours throughout the other brands.
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Skoda have their Meteor Grey.
Porsche have their Meteor Grey.
The colours are different, it is quite simple to understand.
 
andya700 said:
Skoda have their Meteor Grey.
Porsche have their Meteor Grey.
The colours are different, it is quite simple to understand.
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It isn't really when Porsche also use the Skoda Meteor grey, they actually used it first but call it something different.
 
f/2.8 said:
Porsche don't call Skoda meteor grey by the same name they call it something else. Yes I know it's confusing :ROFLMAO:

Thats the V.A.G group for you, always trying to overly complicate things.

Had the same thing with an Aud TT I had once there was a blue colour that was used by Audi, Volkswagon, Seat and Porsche. Same colour and each had their own name for it. While using the Audi colour name for completely different colours throughout the other brands.
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And overcharge! A parts site I used to use (which seems to now be down) would often have Skoda, Audi, VW and Porsche versions of some of the shared parts. It was the same part number yet different prices blatantly listed underneath each other - the Porsche being the most expensive.
 
gman said:
And overcharge! A parts site I used to use (which seems to now be down) would often have Skoda, Audi, VW and Porsche versions of some of the shared parts. It was the same part number yet different prices blatantly listed underneath each other - the Porsche being the most expensive.
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That is definitely true as well but they all do that. It’s a massive scam.

For example the Lamborghini Gallardo uses Ford indicator lights. The Ford part costs £12 but they cost £385 from Lamborghini.
 
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