good. the less smoking around children the better.
houses would be good too, stand in the garden where the poisonous smoke can blow away
I have to wonder for what variety of reasons to people start smoking. For me, leaving school at 15, it was to look 'big' I guess, and be like all my workmates.
I think smoking in cars should be banned full stop.. children or not... All your attention should be to driving.. not where to flick the ash.. not lighting a fag.. not putting a fag out ...and as I learnt myself.. not jumping about when the end drops in yer lap... driving a car at 70 or 80 miles an hr.. or down the street at school time should have your undivided attention... I know it can be a distraction as I smoked in cars vans lorrys for 20+ years... havent smoked for many years now.. but did do the above.. now I can look back and think.. wrong
But then you need to ban eating, drinking, chewing gum... as they can all be a distraction... as can having an argument with the wife or shouting at the kids to stop messing around!
And perhaps so they should be free to self harm, free country and all, but when they are forcing other people/kids to come along with them, that's when it aint right.Yep, people are free the choose 'self harming' as a habit.
Dave
And perhaps so they should be free to self harm, free country and all, but when they are forcing other people/kids to come along with them, that's when it aint right.
And perhaps so they should be free to self harm, free country and all, but when they are forcing other people/kids to come along with them, that's when it aint right.
But then you need to ban eating, drinking, chewing gum... as they can all be a distraction... as can having an argument with the wife or shouting at the kids to stop messing around!
On Yv's points about kids, the answer's easy - ban them!
the list is endless, and all as difficult if not impossible to ultimately police as this one will be.
to me just smacks of political point scoring
Is that so bad? If everyone followed all the rules think how pleasant this country would be. No countryside full of litter, no cigarette butts flying out of car windows lit catching the countryside on fire, no piles of dog s*** when you're out for a walk, no noisy t*** of a neighbour keeping you awake at 3 am etc, etc, etc. It'd be great.But I feel the state are taking too big a say in our lives with this one, most smokers wind the windae down anyway, and with a law like this, its a slipperly slope down the Orwellian path...
does having the window down really help though?But I feel the state are taking too big a say in our lives with this one, most smokers wind the windae down anyway, and with a law like this, its a slipperly slope down the Orwellian path...
does having the window down really help though?
Is that so bad? If everyone followed all the rules think how pleasant this country would be. No countryside full of litter, no cigarette butts flying out of car windows lit catching the countryside on fire, no piles of dog tummymud when you're out for a walk, no noisy bajingo of a neighbour keeping you awake at 3 am etc, etc, etc. It'd be great.
It's not being a nanny state. The government has a duty to protect the vulnerable in society against a known danger. It usually does that by passing laws as in this case, it's not nonsensicle it's just fulfilling it's obligationsIt does get sucked out when the car is moving.
All in all though, smoking in a car with kids is just wrong, regardless of our nanny state's nonsensical about to be law!
Simon makes a good point we should all question unjust laws and we have a strong tradition in doing so, remember section 28 was only removed just over 10 years ago. The proposed law on smoking in cars with children is not an unjust one despite some who might think it impinges on their civil liberties.Yes it is bad as the people making the rules may not have the same ideas as you. We all break the rules at various points and what about rules that people deem unfair. There is a lot if criticism about Russia's gay stance and the fact it is a capital offence in many countries... So should people there just obey the rules?
I think a general rule about not killing people would be useful.
But then you need to ban eating, drinking, chewing gum... as they can all be a distraction... as can having an argument with the wife or shouting at the kids to stop messing around!