Somehow they have managed to chop 7gb of stuff out of it...and add more new features
Nice to see Adobe are cashing in (as usual) on the upgrade http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102153
CS3's a legacy product though, so why test it on a new OS to be able to provide support? Pointless yet costly exercise for all that testing.
I'd expect them to do the same on Windows 7 too.
I'd expect the same from all software vendors to only test their current versions on the currently released OS's, and not regressively test old products.
CS3 works fine on windows 7
Works vs Supported. Two whole different worlds, I'd have thought you being an IT professional would be well aware of that.
Adobe Employee said:CS3 did install and run under Vista 64-bit although it wasn't officially supported. Given the age of CS3, it will unlikely be tested either for install or operation under Windows 7, much less officially supported.
Bottom line is that you are effectively totally on your own with this combination.
Whats the main reason for me going to apple and buying snow leopard for my mac?
So does the version you can downlod off the 'net for free.
Neither are legally licensed though...
Most of that recovered space is from a more efficient coding base, and eliminating all the support binaries for non-Intel platforms.
I've not read the licence yet. Have you?
Just because it's technically possible to upgrade Tiger from the DVD in the upgrade from Leopard box, doesn't mean it's licensed.
but wouldnt apple put a block in if they didnt want you to do it (i.e. break the licence)?
i havent read the licencing either im just interested..
Practicality would say no.
e.g.
Anyone who wanted to rebuild would need to install Leopard first, then Snow Leopard if the DVD required it, or at the very least it would be querying for the Leopard media first.
Additional overhead for software locks in engineeering and production (leading to additional support overheads)
Additional manufacturing overheads for the DVD mastering of separate DVD's for upgrades vs other routes. Potentially needing to introduce software keys.
What they've got now is a single image solution that's easy to manage maintain and manufacture. No issues with software keys, and a lot of trust in their customers.
If they wanted you to do it, wouldn't they just say so and not produce a license pack for upgrading from Tiger.
I mean, they're a big business with quite a bit of legal and marketing talent, so I'm pretty sure they know what they want you to do.
Just pop into the Apple store tomorrow morning and ask them what the cheapest way to upgrade from Tiger to Snow Leopard is...
Neil, I agree people will expend huge amounts of energy to save a few quid.
Anyone who pre-ordered get this today? Hasnt turned up for me with the usual post, assume it's being delivered by RM?
It's been [presumably] nearly two years waiting, surely another 2-3 days is a breeze!Shame really - quoting 3-5 days for delivery so guessing Tuesday/Wednesday next week
I need to do Leopard first again don't I?
Wowsa... courier post very first thing this morning... hardly dressed so well early...
That's what I call service from Apple...
I am doing a fresh install, as in wiping the HDD. Will it install from scratch? I though it was more of an 'upgrade' thats why you cannot do the upgrade straight from Tiger.
To upgrade:
DVD in and run. Select your drive and an upgrade gets performed. This is pretty much the default.
Tested, working.
To clean install over Leopard
You can't quite do this by default, but it's not too tricky. DVD in and run. Then press "Utilities" in the installer and "restart". When you reboot, as soon as you are able, go to the "Utilities" menu and select "Disk Utility". Format the partition you want to install on as "Mac Extended (Journaled)". When done, quit the Disk Utility and continue with the install onto your clean partition.
I have tested this and it works fine.
If you wish, you can then restore data from a Time Machine backup.
Have not tried this step.
To clean install side by with Leopard
Do as a clean install but in the Disk Utility, instead of formatting your drive, opt to "partition" it and add (look for the little + at the bottom of the partition map) a new partition. Then install to this new partition.
I have not tried this way yet, but will when home. It worked for me from Tiger to Leopard very, very well. I have already backed up Music, Photos and Documents to an external drive (as well as Time Machine) so I could delete them, get disk space down to a minimum, add a large partition on the main drive and then in a week or two when everything is OK, delete the old partition and re-claim the drive space.
Hope this helps a few people. As ever, cannot stress enough: BACKUP EVERYTHING PRECIOUS FIRST!
Did you pay for courier or just standard delivery?
DB