So much for the success of AI replacing the human touch!

Very interesting. I understand that the Home Office and probably other organisations are increasingly using AI to =carry out software testing whilst discontinuing the use of human software testing people. Admittedly some human testers act more like drones and deploy no imagination to their task (in my experience as a software test manager) but others are very good at identifying the edge cases that come from human fallibility as users of software. There is a good case for using AI but for quality control, but continuing to use humans for wquality assurance (there is a big difference between QC and QA).
 
lindsay said:
Very interesting. I understand that the Home Office and probably other organisations are increasingly using AI to =carry out software testing whilst discontinuing the use of human software testing people. Admittedly some human testers act more like drones and deploy no imagination to their task (in my experience as a software test manager) but others are very good at identifying the edge cases that come from human fallibility as users of software. There is a good case for using AI but for quality control, but continuing to use humans for wquality assurance (there is a big difference between QC and QA).
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As a software tester, Mrs Marc agrees with every word!
 
The almost slavish drive to envelope society in a an AI bubble, and the cracks such as the article point out are appearing. Shades of the square peg in the round hole? Though are we (human society) the peg or the hole?

Perhaps more prosaically as AI is still relatively young is it a case echoing back to the early days of computing......and..this is a GIGO moment.
 
The problem at this stage of AI evolution is that the models are only as good as the data in them - yes, GIGO. But as we know, 80% of code (and manufacturing) is to cater for the fauklre modes, not the happy path. If the AI model doesn't know enough about historical failure modes and effects, it can't test for them.
 
Box Brownie said:
...and..this is a GIGO moment.
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The real "garbage in", is the failure to think through what happens if you succeed in making systems that replace many people.

Does anyone else remember the chaos of the Thatcher engendered "Miner's Strike"? We're still living with the harm that caused, to a wide area of Britain. Yet, the buffoons, who worm their way into the political system, continue to ignore the vital importance of ensuring that all our citizens have both the wealth to live healthy happy lives and the sense of self worth to enjoy those lives.
 
I can appreciate that robotics have considerably improved reliability with vehicle manufacturing, but AI is a different beast and I can't help but wonder if it is being somewhat conflated by industries, with AI being prematurely overestimated in its abilities?

As suggested, AI is probably still in very early infancy. I certainly wouldn't trust AI to say operate on me, but I would trust a human using robotics (which can actually be superior to just a human).
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
The real "garbage in", is the failure to think through what happens if you succeed in making systems that replace many people.

Does anyone else remember the chaos of the Thatcher engendered "Miner's Strike"? We're still living with the harm that caused, to a wide area of Britain. Yet, the buffoons, who worm their way into the political system, continue to ignore the vital importance of ensuring that all our citizens have both the wealth to live healthy happy lives and the sense of self worth to enjoy those lives.
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As an ex miner, my workmates and I will never forget it, in a pit village nearby the Miners Welfare club closed, no other new pubs to go to so why? Are people not drinking, doing it at home?
 
mj4456 said:
As an ex miner, my workmates and I will never forget it, in a pit village nearby the Miners Welfare club closed, no other new pubs to go to so why? Are people not drinking, doing it at home?
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Or can they actually afford to drink these days , depending on venue prices seem to vary between £5 to £10:a pint
 
mj4456 said:
As an ex miner, my workmates and I will never forget it, in a pit village nearby the Miners Welfare club closed, no other new pubs to go to so why? Are people not drinking, doing it at home?
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People are generally not going to pubs so much. Playing with a band that used to have quite a few pub gigs, we've seen fewer and fewer people over the last 10 years. Personally I've not done pubs for myself since moving to a rural location, but on the odd occasion I do go , they are much quieter.
 
Our village had two pubs around 2000, now it has a restaurant that serves drinks without meals, on request.

To be fair, one of the pubs clearly had a death wish, ignoring numerous local complaints about noise and other problems until the licence was finally lifted by the council. The other had always been much further upmarket but gradually concentrated more on food until it was taken over and converted more or less entirely to a restaurant (and jolly good it is too!)
 
the black fox said:
Or can they actually afford to drink these days , depending on venue prices seem to vary between £5 to £10:a pint
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I suspect covid did a lot of damage to the pubs. People who used to go to the pub every night had to stay in, so they bought cans instead. by the end of the week they realized they were paying a pint price for 4 pint cans, thus saving a lot of money (or getting more squiffy for the same money ;)) when covid ended they just had mates around instead of the local pub.
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
Our village had two pubs around 2000, now it has a restaurant that serves drinks without meals, on request.
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Presumably that's the Half Moon, which calls itself "Clyst St Mary's Best Village Pub"?

I'm told that the beer and food are pretty good.

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Winslade Manor on the other side of the tracks is a different matter and isn't really in the village.

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Winslade Manor Restaurant and Bar – Winslade Park

People will travel miles for great food but at Winslade Park our ingredients never do. Taking advantage of our position near the sea and never far from the wond
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Edit to correct silly typo!
 
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