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Was walking around Cardiff When I seen a few lads just relaxing in the sun...Asked them for a quick picture....What Picture do you like the most?street-youth_27489670082_o.jpg lads2.jpg
 
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These two renditions are having the exact opposite
problem to them: tonal values and their expression.

The first is too flat and the second too contrasty.

The only way to succeed a conversion is to start with
proper DRL and WB. Then, after conversion, you may
express your artistic intent to your heat's content way
easier knowing you have all the values of the RAW file.
 
Kodiak Qc said:
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These two renditions are having the exact opposite
problem to them: tonal values and their expression.

The first is too flat and the second too contrasty.

The only way to succeed a conversion is to start with
proper DRL and WB. Then, after conversion, you may
express your artistic intent to your heat's content way
easier knowing you have all the values of the RAW file.
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Thanks for your input...Im new to photography so will take everything you said in mind :)
 
Kodiak Qc said:
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These two renditions are having the exact opposite
problem to them: tonal values and their expression.

The first is too flat and the second too contrasty.

The only way to succeed a conversion is to start with
proper DRL and WB. Then, after conversion, you may
express your artistic intent to your heat's content way
easier knowing you have all the values of the RAW file.
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What is DRL?
Matt
PS First one for me, good angle.
 
Jayst84 said:
Simply referred to as "levels" by most people. ;)
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That would reflect the usual lack of precision
in the nomination and that generates confusion
as LEVELS refers to the "S" curve tool more
specifically.
 
Kodiak Qc said:
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That would reflect the usual lack of precision
in the nomination and that generates confusion
as LEVELS refers to the "S" curve tool more
specifically.
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At the risk of going horribly off topic: not in my experience.

Levels = either the luminance or RGB levels in the image.

Adjust them however you like. Most people I know would think of using the "levels" adjustment in Photoshop to set the black, white, and mid points, if you asked them go and set the levels in an image. Or they would use the curves adjustment to do exactly the same thing.
 
Jayst84 said:
At the risk of going horribly off topic: not in my experience.
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I am not saying you are wrong but IT is no longer
appropriate.

Terms are anchoring in the language quite easily
specially when one needs to refer to it often. PS
needed, from the beginning a short name for the
tool and, at the time, it was very ok. But PS is no
longer the reference nor on top of everything.

Recently. software developers have created new
tools and approaches that need new names as
they are different tools.

DRL, as one is setting it correctly, will update the
mid point of the dynamic range (DR) accordingly
as LEVELS will typically ignore it and let you the
task of tweaking it. For that reason, DRL should
be the very first tweak on the RAW data as it will
reveal the actual recorded extent of the dynamic
range.

It is up to any one to use the preferred terminology
but, when it comes to teaching, clarity makes things
simpler.
 
If I was processing the first image (which I prefer of the two), I would process it differently. However, I quite like the slightly flat look here, I think it gives it a film feel.

What truly matter is not how it's processed, but why it was processed. Is that an intentional decision by Jason, is it the result of moving the various sliders to get that look; or is it the result of moving the sliders without an artistic look in mind and arriving at something Jason liked, or is it moving the sliders around because one feels they need to be moved and then exporting the result.

There's no 'correct' image, there's only the image that most portrays what Jason was trying to portray.

It's not the image I would produce, but I like #1.
 
I am not going to get involved in the discussion above, its down to personal taste in the end.

Commenting on the images themselves, I really like them, a great bit of social commentary IMHO. Good work @Taffflash Jason.
 
Number 2 is my preferred, good expressions, and I do like the slightly more contrasty look. You'll perhaps find there is a little more shadow detail that could be introduced in post too.

However one thing to focus on when framing your image is to ensure you don't amputate limbs at awkward points, e.g. Toes, ankles, fingers etc. In this case their toes and feet have been cropped.
 
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