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Saying d7100 better value difference in IQ would be so little if anything at all, to say far better is exaggerated . They are all capable of producing fantastic results so IQ arguments are pointless.The 50 35 1.8 + the tamron 70-300 vc for the price.a an XT1 body is far better value. The d7100 is a superb camera in its own right, and don't forget 3 or 4 fuji lenses and the bank balance soon goes downAre you saying it's no contest because the D7100 plus 3 lenses represent better value for money than an X-T1 or because they are better than an X-T1? Which 3 lenses were you thinking of?
I used (and still have) the excellent 16-85VRII, 50 f1.8, 70-300VRII for my D90, and have used other FF lenses when I had the D600. I can say (because I used both systems) that the Fuji lenses are far better optically than any of the APS-C Nikkor lenses and are more than a match for the FF ones. In fact, the best Fuji lenses are better than the current Fuji bodies.
The lenses in general are light, especially in comparison with the equivalent from canon or nikon, take the heaviest of the range so far, the 50-140 f2.8, this weighs in at approx 995 grams compared to approx 1.4-1.5 + kgs for the full frame equivalent (70-200 f2.8) from the major manufacturers, both old and new lenses there coming out are comparably very light, yet robust in build and of top level optical quality, who else has a 56mm f1.2 (85mm f1.2 equivalent) that weighs just 440 grams? or a 90mm f2 (135mm f2) thats just 530 grams? without compromising on iQ? And thats without getting into the world of adapted lenses using the excellent M adaptor that brings top notch glass from Leica, Zeiss and Voigtlander into the game with a lot of them weighing between 200 - 500 grams.
Weight is something thats critical for me as I'm severely disabled but iQ is also something thats critical to me as well as low light performance, the only camera's that fitted the bill for me when switching to CSC from DSLR where those from the Fuji range, in particular at the time the X-Pro1 and more recently the XT-1.
Where they won over Sony for me was the range and quality of the lenses as well as the quality and functionality of the bodies.
The lenses in general are light, especially in comparison with the equivalent from canon or nikon, take the heaviest of the range so far, the 50-140 f2.8, this weighs in at approx 995 grams compared to approx 1.4-1.5 + kgs for the full frame equivalent (70-200 f2.8) from the major manufacturers, both old and new lenses there coming out are comparably very light, yet robust in build and of top level optical quality, who else has a 56mm f1.2 (85mm f1.2 equivalent) that weighs just 440 grams? or a 90mm f2 (135mm f2) thats just 530 grams? without compromising on iQ? And thats without getting into the world of adapted lenses using the excellent M adaptor that brings top notch glass from Leica, Zeiss and Voigtlander into the game with a lot of them weighing between 200 - 500 grams.
To be fair edit: basically what [USER=64265]@minnnt said lol[/USER]
Agree they are not there yet, I'm sure they will.but that's why I won't change I need that and mirrorless won't give me that just yet.Not with that demo either. Again, generous depth-of-field means the focus isn't doing much at all, huge margin for error. And no sequence images.
I'm not knocking CSCs deliberately, just pointing out that they're not yet as good as DSLRs at focusing tricky moving targets, and many of them can't shoot a sequence at all as the focus position locks with the first shot. They will surely get there
Maybe when the prices drop a bit the d7100 and 3 excellent lenses at the same price as an xt1 body? No contest really
Roll on the 22nd so we can prove all you haters wrong.
Maybe when the prices drop a bit the d7100 and 3 excellent lenses at the same price as an xt1 body? No contest really
Good thing you like motorsport at F16
Mine was £463 (grey) I paid £100 each on the primes £250 the tamronI'm curious. Looking at prices on WEX, the D7100 is £749 and the X-T1 is £879. Where are these 3 excellent lenses for £130?
Don't want the d7200 it's performance is worse at lower iso how many fuji lenses are cheap?You mean when fuji reduce their prices to match a superseded body?. The d7200 (body only) and the XT1 are about £30 price differential.
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Mine was £463 (grey) I paid £100 each on the primes £250 the tamron
What's the difference? There's little difference in one generation
What's the difference? There's little difference in one generation, didn't say you have buy a uk model, just saying what you can get for the same price
Who Cares? As above just saying what can get for same price. The XT1 isn't better than the d7100
Oh dear I wasn't comparing like for like, I'm sure I wrote in English
What a lot of drivil I wasn't comparing are you a bit slow?
What a lot of drivil I wasn't comparing are you a bit slow? I WAS SAYING WHAT YOU CAN GET FOR THE SAME PRICE, THAT IS NOT COMPARING
What a lot of drivil I wasn't comparing are you a bit slow? I WAS SAYING WHAT YOU CAN GET FOR THE SAME PRICE, THAT IS NOT COMPARING
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Mine was £463 (grey) I paid £100 each on the primes £250 the tamron
I thought I was having a conversation with a grown up. Never mind.
Then add 3 fuji lenses and how much are we talking then?I'll try and help Peter and explain this in a way all you simpletons can understand.
What he bought: camera - £463 Lens 1 - £100 Lens 2 - £100 Lens 3 - £250
so 463+100+100+250 = £913 which is the same as the grey price for the X-T1 the bodies not much good without them
Oh that doesn't add up, what he obviously means is that £913 is the same as the UK price of the X-T1
No wait I'll get it ! It's the same I tell you!
The 1.8g please don't try and say it's a crap lens,admittedly I got it cheaper than most