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  1. wezza13

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    It is superb and I can see a difference. I just mention it to Gil as a couple of people I've spoken to went out and bought prime lenses and were unhappy with the (slight) jump in IQ. One of them was a crap photographer though lol
     
  2. Gil Bev

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    I have to say, I can't see any noticable improvement in IQ with these lenses :eek: - the only lenses I can detect a considerable improvement in the images uploaded on flickr are the Sigma 150-600mm Sport, and the Nikon 500mm f4
     
  3. Gil Bev

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    I think for my skill level I have better equipment than I deserve, so I don't think I'll be changing my equipment anytime soon. I do like looking at other peoples work though and what they use. I think I need to get out with some more of you guys, because some of things I learnt from Bobsyeruncle have really made a noticeable difference to the shots I've taken this week. Like shooting at f8 to get more of the bird sharp and in focus, and understanding and altering the metering in ISO Auto mode.
     
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  4. wezza13

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    The trick is to definitely stay with the gear you've got. We all get gear lust and, most of the time, it's unwarranted!

    I like your photo's (y)

    I don't think it helps looking at Flickr and seeing what some lenses can do, from a variety of different people. There are too many factors involved like PP skills, hand-held vs tripod shooting, using some nice early morning-late evening light vs harsh mid-day sun.

    I definitely found with my D500 and Tamron 150-600mm combo, that I had to stay at 500mm and f8 or f9 for maximum sharpness. But, for wildlife, that isn't always doable so the prime lenses really come into their own when shooting wide open (y)
     
  5. Bobsyeruncle

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    @tom24 has a D500, and changed from the Tamron 150-600 to the Nikon 200-500mm.
    He will hopefully be along soon to tell you his thoughts....:)
     
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  6. Sootchucker

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    Well here's one from the MK1 Tamron 150-600 with my D500 @ ISO 8000 @ 600mm and f7.1

    Plenty enough detail for me.

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. Sootchucker

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    and one at ISO 12,800 on the D500 again @ 600mm

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. Gil Bev

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    Fantastic detail at such high ISO. What do you do for noise reduction as I can't see any noise :).
     
  9. tom24

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    Like Wez said, I was using the Tamron at 500-550mm anyway and a cracking lens it was.
    I moved to the Nikon 200-500mm because I (a) wanted a Nikon (b) wanted the constant f5.6 (c) noted what some local birders had opted for.
    There really isn't much between image quality, by far the best way to improve that is by using a tripod. I do and a mono pod.
    It's not any faster auto focus either.I moved 'cos of want not actual need.
     
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  10. Gil Bev

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    How about being able to get a sucessfull lock when moving the focus spot. Can you move it to the extreme corners and get good results in AFC?
     
  11. Sootchucker

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    Thanks, the only two plug ins I really use are Topaz De-Noise 5 for NR and Topaz InFocus for sharpening. Always seems to do a really good job for me.
     
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  12. tom24

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    Tbh I never need to use the extreme corners, so can't answer that.
     
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  13. Gil Bev

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    I've always struggled with selecting the subject in Photoshop, even with the intelligent select. Do you still have to select the subject from the background when using these plugins? Do you spend quite some time getting it right, or is it quite an easy process to get the plugins to do their magic?
     
  14. Sootchucker

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    I usually use layers making a duplicate of the background layer, perform NR on the copy layer as needed (say for the background), then use layer masks to paint out the subject (the Jay in these images), to let the original image come though, and repeat if necessary using lower NR values for the bird itself and again, using a layer mask to apply the latest NR layer to just the bird. I works really well, and only takes a few minutes using a feathered brush.

    TBH, that's only because I'm quite anal about these things, but you can let Topaz De-Noise just do it's thing and it's quite intelligent and gives pretty good results without bothering with layer masks at all.
     
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  15. Gil Bev

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    Thanks for the tips, I've been experimenting with Photoshop and Topaz De-noise and getting better results than using Lightroom for NR. I've been getting better at selecting the subject and creating layers which I struggled with before. I guess it becomes harder to select the subject when there's poor contrast between subject and background.
     

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