The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!
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Pretty much my sentiment regarding video
I'll wait until the official announcement but I thought the SAR guy said weeks ago the EVF is updated and higher res, disappointing if this isn't the case.
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Not the first time Sony camera body pricing has been brought into question
He did but unless the posted specs are again different it’s the same EV and screen used for years the lowest they do and lower than any competitors, which is really a sad thing when they pioneered it all.
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Should be under 2k grey market within 6 months then.
you get full raw at 30fps but it only takes 40 shots 1.1 seconds.
most the testing was done via video as no software support the camera
even 40k60 has a crop if you want it with the cleaner noise reduction version, seems there is more detail over the iv but also more noise.
seems to have the best thermal of any camera so far 6h at 4k 60.
he rates it as likely the best of the bunch... he did say they peaked years ago for photo's
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Looks good. Like a mini a1
Definitely interested and shopping for a replacement for my A9 next year. Need to see how prices shake out for the A7v vs the A7iv, A7Rv and possibly an adapted Z8. All have their pros and cons (don't care about video, only wildlife/landscape capabilities and cost).
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They were my thoughts too, although I'll not be parting with my A1 for one
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Wonder what this will do to A7IV prices?
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Realistic image quality. Count me in, always hated how my current camera gives unrealistic images.Full specs leaked.
Fully leaked Sony A7V specs!!! | sonyalpharumors
Sony A7V at BHphoto, Amazon, Adorama, Fotokoch, Foto Erhardt, Calumet, WexUK, Clifton, Park UK, Henrys, Camera Pro, Sony Australia. This is the google translated press text: The Sony Alpha 7 V full-frame mirrorless camera combines professional-grade speed and performance in a compact body...www.sonyalpharumors.com
Who's tempted?
Still hate that they describe them as "all weather" but don't quantify it. Just give us an IP rating already.
Probably a high chance an A7Cm3 would have this sensor in a year or two.
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You can already buy the A7iv for £1300 brand new so I wouldn’t expect them to drop much at all.
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Best I'd seen was £1389 grey last week.
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I've not seen sensor readout times yet, but with it 'only' being a partically stacked sensor it's clearly not going to be as fast. Banding wouldn't be a concern for me as it's something I've never encountered, however if it has significant rolling shutter then it would be pointless to me, you don't need 30fps to take a static subject
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£1349 at Cotswolds.
You can actually get it for £1399 UK at the mo after Park's offer and cashback, cashback still has ages to run but not sure how much Park's offer will last. For £50 difference I'd definitely rather have a UK model.
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Thanks. I'm in that place where an upgrade would be nice but I don't actually need to do it, and I'm not doing a lot of photography right now either.
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Sensor readout of the A7V is approx 4.5x faster than the A7IV. The A7 IV is approx 66ms so by my calculations that means the A7V will be 14.6ms, therefore it's still quite a bit slower than the A1 which is 3.8-4ms.
I used to have the EM1 Mark II which has a readout speed of approx 16.7ms and on viewing a single image it was hard to see any rolling shutter, you could see it if you shot a series and viewed one to the other quickly, you could see the distortion in the subject change very slightly. For me it wasn't enough to worry about as, just looking at a single image you didn't notice it, although I guess if there's a lot of vertical lines it might be more noticeable.
Basically it's just a long winded way of saying that I think the electronic shutter will be usable most of the time with the A7V
I used to have the EM1 Mark II which has a readout speed of approx 16.7ms and on viewing a single image it was hard to see any rolling shutter, you could see it if you shot a series and viewed one to the other quickly, you could see the distortion in the subject change very slightly. For me it wasn't enough to worry about as, just looking at a single image you didn't notice it, although I guess if there's a lot of vertical lines it might be more noticeable.
Basically it's just a long winded way of saying that I think the electronic shutter will be usable most of the time with the A7V
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If I only ever bought what I needed I'd only have a phone camera
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No.If I only ever bought what I needed I'd only have a phone camera
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I've not seen sensor readout times yet, but with it 'only' being a partically stacked sensor it's clearly not going to be as fast. Banding wouldn't be a concern for me as it's something I've never encountered, however if it has significant rolling shutter then it would be pointless to me, you don't need 30fps to take a static subject
I haven't seen banding for a while, maybe just luck.
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I don't shoot a lot in artificial light which is why it's not much of an issue for me. I can understand it is for people that shoot at sports stadiums etc, but even then there's usually a workaround. You can always revert to mechanical, or in the case of the A1 you can use really random shutter speeds like 1/236.1
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Kai W on Instagram: "Sony’s new a7 V is a bit of a speed demon…but has the (third) party been cancelled? Here’s a very brief overview of the camera and what we encountered with Chinese third party lenses. (Full video on YouTube) With @wanderingchung
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Probably early firmware issues but that not working with third party lenses might put me off for a bit (if I was in the market)
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I had really bad banding in Blackwells book store a couple of weeks ago - it seemed to be in one area only, so maybe one particular bulb was running at an odd frequency.
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I usually only take the odd picture indoors under artificial lighting when we're having dinner with someone, either home or out. For whatever reason I've noticed that banding is much less of an issue than it was a few years ago. If this is down to luck, a change in lighting or camera tech or some combination of these I don't know but it does seem less of an issue. In Thailand I used the electronic shutter exclusively and despite taking pictures in Mrs WW's family home and every coffee house, restaurant, mall, hotel and indoor attraction we went to I didn't have a single picture affected by banding.
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R5ii has a fully stacked sensor unlike A7V.
its also more expensive.
this is really competing with R6iii and its better than that plus shoots full 14-bit RAW.
At the same time Sony doesn't really have an R5ii competitor, you'd have dish out a couple grand extra for A1ii.
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Yeah I think the r6 is about 16 and the 7v 14ms readout.
Either way it’s a big difference compared to the last 2 models and everyone lived with them.
I did wonder what the Sony equivalent was to an r5.
What is the canon equivalent to the R line.?
I’ve watched as many videos on this as possible, overall most seem happy,
a significant and not significant update in ways.
Will be interesting to see what the real DR and iso results are once the images can be processed but so far it seems to be very mixed on both.
Some saying an improvement over the IV others saying its exactly the same.
Either way it’s a big difference compared to the last 2 models and everyone lived with them.
I did wonder what the Sony equivalent was to an r5.
What is the canon equivalent to the R line.?
I’ve watched as many videos on this as possible, overall most seem happy,
a significant and not significant update in ways.
Will be interesting to see what the real DR and iso results are once the images can be processed but so far it seems to be very mixed on both.
Some saying an improvement over the IV others saying its exactly the same.
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I’d be surprised if the DR wasn’t better, Sony would look pretty stupid otherwise.
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It will definitely have rolling shutter, it will just be case of whether or not it’s perceivable in the real world.
Of course I’m only talking about stills, I have no interest in video
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Rolling shutter will be minimised but will still be there, so it is an improvement over the A7IV.Sensor readout of the A7V is approx 4.5x faster than the A7IV. The A7 IV is approx 66ms so by my calculations that means the A7V will be 14.6ms, therefore it's still quite a bit slower than the A1 which is 3.8-4ms.
I used to have the EM1 Mark II which has a readout speed of approx 16.7ms and on viewing a single image it was hard to see any rolling shutter, you could see it if you shot a series and viewed one to the other quickly, you could see the distortion in the subject change very slightly. For me it wasn't enough to worry about as, just looking at a single image you didn't notice it, although I guess if there's a lot of vertical lines it might be more noticeable.
Basically it's just a long winded way of saying that I think the electronic shutter will be usable most of the time with the A7V
Banding is still gonna be pretty poor though. Rolling shutter I can deal with banding I can not. This just means that it's not a body that would be useful to me personally. I don't use our A7IV's for the same reason, they are my wife's camera's. She doesn't mind using the mech shutter, I do. The A7IV and based on the specs and the A7V will likely be unusable indoors using the electronic shutter.
To be fair I didn't expect that it would be usable, if it had of been I would have been front of the line to buy one. I will just have to pay the extra for another A9III. I suppose at some point we will likely get some to replace my wife's A7IV's. With the rest of the specs, if it had of had a fully stacked sensor it would be the perfect camera for weddings but then it would be a fair bit more expensive. I wonder how much more it would have cost with a fully stacked sensor, or if Sony are just crippling them to protect the other cameras that have it.
My use is different than most of the rest of the guys here as I am shooting indoors more than most and its my personal preference to always use the e shutter.
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Yeah, I don't think it will be a camera you can use the e-shutter with for weddings, but I think most wildlife, maybe even motorsports you could probably get away with it but obviously without using one I can't say with any certainty, I can only guess based on my experience with the EM1 II.
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readout speed is one thing but with R6iii (and Z6iii) you are also getting a reduction in dynamic range.
Sony claim they have managed to keep the dynamic range the same and going by early reviews its certainly not as bad as canikons
There is no real competitor to A7RV out there across brands.
At the same time R5/Z8 aren't really a competitor to the A1/ii either or A9iii for that matter.
A1ii has a lot of other benefits but I just don't feel its worth the extra two grand (for me, professionals probably see it differently).
On a slightly separate note it feels like canikon shot themselves in the foot by adopting CFe type B unlike Sony.
Initially I was annoyed with Sony's decision to support type A because there weren't many options, low supply hence high price and slower.
But looks like it can now go higher speeds, there's lot more options and it means they can do double matched card slots in a smaller body.
Two get dual type B slots you need to buy massive bodies. Plus you can make type A slots also take SD cards. All in all seems much nicer now in hindsight.
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at about two minutes he shows some rolling shutter and indoor light testing.
The warping is far less and looks perfectly usable for most.
Banding is still prevalent the IV was loads of small bands all across the screen , where as the V is maybe 5/6 large bands , looks more like the exposure banding you get with a failing shutter.
But again unless your un willing to use the real shutter it’s a non issue.
I think it’s him that also asked Sony about the shutter and it’s supposedly the same as the R line now and rated to 500k(I think? He said double the IV)