The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

nandbytes said:
yeah may be "lost" is the wrong word for it but I guess "spent".
if you can find a body that you can keep for 4-5 years it may just be worth it.
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Yeah that makes sense, but I can't get out of my head that it's a £6500 camera. I just can't see myself ever spending that on a camera no matter how good it may be or how long I may keep it. I pushed the boat out getting the Z7 and A7RIV, I think that's my limit tbh.

So ok lets stick with Sony.... A7RIV you know the AF woes all too well.... though I don't feel its as bad you think it is its definitely seems a level behind R5 for wildlife.
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The A7RIV is still a great camera, I've had no issue with motorsports or wildlife (I don't do BIF really), I just have to accept that it's pants for Betty running at the camera ;) As long as it's OK for marathons etc.
 
It's funny seems a silly amount for a camera but I wouldn't bat an eyelid at spending that on a mountain bike (my other hobby).
In fact just the frame I'm considering for my next bike is £3k.
 
snerkler said:
Yeah that makes sense, but I can't get out of my head that it's a £6500 camera. I just can't see myself ever spending that on a camera no matter how good it may be or how long I may keep it. I pushed the boat out getting the Z7 and A7RIV, I think that's my limit tbh.


The A7RIV is still a great camera, I've had no issue with motorsports or wildlife (I don't do BIF really), I just have to accept that it's pants for Betty running at the camera ;) As long as it's OK for marathons etc.
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Would you spend £6.5k on a car change you don't really need? Many people would. Years back when the reg changed every year I knew a guy who always got a new car on 1st August. I know some people must have the latest camera too and that's ok for them. For others who only change once in a while maybe even a £6.5k camera is ok?

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I'm not trying to talk you into getting an A1. I have the same justifying it problems. Just saying that if an adult has the money it's up to that adult what they spend it on. And a camera is possibly a lot less environmentally damaging than a new car.
 
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robj20 said:
I'm the same with lenses I read so much information on them it takes me a long time to decide which to get, it's rare I swap and change.
20mm definitely next that's decided then im pretty sure I want the Voigtlander 35 f1.2.
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I have been through at least 100 lenses :ROFLMAO:
 
nandbytes said:
I have been through at least 100 lenses :ROFLMAO:
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I never get too invested with my Canon, only had the kit lens, nifty fifty and the 100mm macro.
I guess the most swapping I've done is with the Sony getting rid of the 24-70f4 and the 16-35f4.
 
robj20 said:
It's funny seems a silly amount for a camera but I wouldn't bat an eyelid at spending that on a mountain bike (my other hobby).
In fact just the frame I'm considering for my next bike is £3k.
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:eek: We all justify things differently, there’s no rights or wrongs as long as the individual is happy.
woof woof said:
Would you spend £6.5k on a car change don't really need? Many people would. Years back when the reg changed every year I knew a guy who always got a new car on 1st August. I know some people must have the latest camera too and that's ok for them. For others who only change once in a while maybe even a £6.5k camera is ok?
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As above we all justify and value things differently. I can ‘accept’ ‘losing’ £20k on a car over 4 years but I can’t justify £6500 on a camera. Don’t ask me why, that’s just how my brain works :lol:
 
snerkler said:
:eek: We all justify things differently, there’s no rights or wrongs as long as the individual is happy.
As above we all justify and value things differently. I can ‘accept’ ‘losing’ £20k on a car over 4 years but I can’t justify £6500 on a camera. Don’t ask me why, that’s just how my brain works :LOL:
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I'm the same. Even spending £2k on a camera seems to be a stretch.
 
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snerkler said:
:eek: We all justify things differently, there’s no rights or wrongs as long as the individual is happy.
As above we all justify and value things differently. I can ‘accept’ ‘losing’ £20k on a car over 4 years but I can’t justify £6500 on a camera. Don’t ask me why, that’s just how my brain works :LOL:
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Just think how many camera bags I could buy with £6.5K :p
 
snerkler said:
Haha, I couldn't justify £6500 on a camera even if I could afford it.
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At the moment I am using Sony A7 III I was looking for A7R IV for the extra MP (always useful, when you need a tight crop with extra detail), but I think the best option is to wait and see what will happen.

Well, as all we can notice the prices are going up. Every new model is more and more expensive.
And yes, £6500 is quite a lot, I must admit.

Not sure about the others, but I am working with my camera, this is my main official job and what I do for living.
Having one body for my photo and video work and being able to get high class stabilized footage is very very tempting for me (Talking to myself about Sony A1)
So, may be a good investment in the future (if it deliver what it is promising)

The problem for me is not the investment, the problem is the current situation in UK/world. My models are not able to travel, so my work is almost 100% down, postponed or cancelled.
Once the current restrictions are lifted (hopefully in the next several months) I will think about it (A1) and meanwhile it will mature a little and we will have more actual/real unbiased reviews (which is more and more difficult with these paid youtubers that are praising everything that they are paid for).






snerkler said:
So here's some photos that were actually in focus today ;)

A7R01035 by TDG-77, on Flickr
A7R01058 by TDG-77, on Flickr
A7R01079 by TDG-77, on Flickr
A7R01082 by TDG-77, on Flickr
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Really, really nice photos! Well done.
 
photosample said:
At the moment I am using Sony A7 III I was looking for A7R IV for the extra MP (always useful, when you need a tight crop with extra detail), but I think the best option is to wait and see what will happen.

Well, as all we can notice the prices are going up. Every new model is more and more expensive.
And yes, £6500 is quite a lot, I must admit.

Not sure about the others, but I am working with my camera, this is my main official job and what I do for living.
Having one body for my photo and video work and being able to get high class stabilized footage is very very tempting for me (Talking to myself about Sony A1)
So, may be a good investment in the future (if it deliver what it is promising)

The problem for me is not the investment, the problem is the current situation in UK/world. My models are not able to travel, so my work is almost 100% down, postponed or cancelled.
Once the current restrictions are lifted (hopefully in the next several months) I will think about it (A1) and meanwhile it will mature a little and we will have more actual/real unbiased reviews (which is more and more difficult with these paid youtubers that are praising everything that they are paid for).









Really, really nice photos! Well done.
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Thanks. If photography was my income I’d definitely be able to justify a camera like the A1, but for a hobby, especially one I’m not great at it’s a bit over indulgent for me.
 
This is all slightly funny - I'm wondering about whether there would be value in trading my A7III for an rIII and how much that would cost me, never mind £6.5K for an A1. :LOL:

It may be a cultural thing - I find it difficult to both buy and especially to sell.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
It is very impressive, but there's nothing about it that would make me a better photographer.
In my hands it would still be capable of producing crap photos.... :LOL:
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I’ll always be turning out crap :lol: Blackout free shooting could improve things as I do sometimes lose track of moving targets due to the blackout, especially slow shutter pans.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
It is very impressive, but there's nothing about it that would make me a better photographer.
In my hands it would still be capable of producing crap photos.... [emoji38]
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You could book a 121 workshop with a photographer specialising in an area you want to get better at. I reckon someone seriously looking at this camera but who has some doubts over their abilities can afford a day or two out with a pro.

Lots of landscape, wildlife etc workshop leaders climbing over themselves for clients and lots of workshops etc out there for clients of any ability.

And be honest, what's so lacking in your photography (I've seen you post decent landscapes) and if still think there are issues then already then you know how to fix it...
 
SFTPhotography said:
You could book a 121 workshop with a photographer specialising in an area you want to get better at. I reckon someone seriously looking at this camera but who has some doubts over their abilities can afford a day or two out with a pro.

Lots of landscape, wildlife etc workshop leaders climbing over themselves for clients and lots of workshops etc out there for clients of any ability.

And be honest, what's so lacking in your photography (I've seen you post decent landscapes) and if still think there are issues then already then you know how to fix it...
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The point I was making was that I don't need a £6500 camera....doesn't mean I wouldn't want one though, just don't need one.
Any future funds for me will likely be spent on glass....
 
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ancient_mariner said:
This is all slightly funny - I'm wondering about whether there would be value in trading my A7III for an rIII and how much that would cost me, never mind £6.5K for an A1. :LOL:

It may be a cultural thing - I find it difficult to both buy and especially to sell.
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I certainly noticed more detail in the Riii shots, the EVF was better but having now tried the 73, r73 and a9 i'm still less than impressed with the EVF's and LCD's, I do miss the Fuji's in this regard.

I can see now why so many people say the A73 is the sweet spot for performance vs cost
 
imattersuk said:
I certainly noticed more detail in the Riii shots, the EVF was better but having now tried the 73, r73 and a9 i'm still less than impressed with the EVF's and LCD's, I do miss the Fuji's in this regard.

I can see now why so many people say the A73 is the sweet spot for performance vs cost
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Nikon Z7's had the best EVF and LCD I've used, imo better than the Fuji (although I've not tried the XT4)
 
snerkler said:
Nikon Z7's had the best EVF and LCD I've used, imo better than the Fuji (although I've not tried the XT4)
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Had the Z6. Totally agree.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
The point I was making was that I don't need a £6500 camera....doesn't mean I wouldn't want one though, just don't need one.
Any future funds for me will likely be spent on glass....
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Glass, body, tripod, bag, computer, monitor, plus yourself. Your system is only as good as its weakest link.

What lenses do you think you'll go for?
 
Mr Perceptive said:
With you next car buy one that is one year older and save the £5K, spend the saving on a camera....simples.....
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No can do, just put a deposit on a new (to me) car ;)
 
SFTPhotography said:
Glass, body, tripod, bag, computer, monitor, plus yourself. Your system is only as good as its weakest link.

What lenses do you think you'll go for?
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Something wider than 24mm which is the widest I have right now (24-105mm)
Can't decide and keep changing my mind ....
Sony 20mm f1.8 or Sony 16 -35mm f4. I don't need a wide zoom, but not sure if 20mm would be wide enough?
Can't justify 16-35mm f2.8
 
Mr Perceptive said:
With you next car buy one that is one year older and save the £5K, spend the saving on a camera....simples.....
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Put a private plate on and the other half will never notice the difference. :p
 
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