The Fabulous Fuji X owners thread

MittyKitty said:
That’s why I will wait for the 6. Maybe a big big change (which I doubt) But if no significant change I will switch. Not sure canon or Sony yet. I like the menu on the canon but lens wise it’s better to have a Sony (but those menus ) I think that they are both good on auto focus. Color wise i will miss Fuji
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If you want to get Canon or Nikon AF speed and surety (AF latch on) then you may wait a while.

AF speed and surety is a moving feast so with each generation within a camera manufacturer release it gets better but between makes it is just a catchup game. Sony is/was best but I think that Canon and Nikon are just a whisker behind with Fuji just behind them (by a generation, so always playing catch up).

AF has improved leaps and bounds and is probably better than manual focus on a great day. When it is in focus, it is in focus, so sharp. Any mode, model or manufacturer can achieve this. However the critical item for most of us is will it be good enough to get you the image you want/need consistently?

What is the success rate? With my Nikons AF I would say 90+%, with Fuji AF 75%, with me manual focusing maybe 50% (older dodgy eyes). Success is a sharp in focus image.
 
MittyKitty said:
That’s why I will wait for the 6. Maybe a big big change (which I doubt) But if no significant change I will switch. Not sure canon or Sony yet. I like the menu on the canon but lens wise it’s better to have a Sony (but those menus ) I think that they are both good on auto focus. Color wise i will miss Fuji
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AF of Sony and Canon are on a different level, especially on their higher end bodies. Nikon are good but still behind Sony and Canon.

Sony menus are much improved on the later bodies and firmware, for me they’re easier to navigate than Canon. YMMV

Sony E-mount has a much wider selection of native lenses than Canon, including 3rd party which Sony have opened up their mount to. The only caveat is that third party can only shoot at 15fps, but I rarely shoot above this anyway.

Another thing is a lot of the time Sony lenses are smaller, lighter and less expensive than the Canon equivalent. This is the opposite for the camera bodies, Sony’s are overpriced imo. The Canon R5 II and Nikon Z8 are some of the best bang for buck cameras around imo.
 
@MittyKitty There is a discussion going on about AF in the X-T6 thread on the Fuji-X forum.

From my investigations, if your photography means that you need lightning fast accurate AF with excellent super-sticky tracking, then there are better offerings out there from other manufacturers (Sony/Canon). Historically Fuji have only ever played catch-up with regard to AF, so whilst the X-T6 will be an improvement on the X-T5, I certainly wouldn't expect it to be class leading, or even equal to current Sony/Canon offerings. AF never makes up for bad technique, as I know from my motorsport panning shots!

Most of the time though, and for many genres of photography the Fuji AF is prefectly good.

There are plenty of reasons to stay in the Fuji eco-system, but if AF is the absolute priority then your money may be best spent elsewhere.

With regard to colour, all the manufacturers emply their own colour science, but with some post processing work using the Raw files, you can go a long way to emulating a similar look and feel with different camera system. @LeeRatters plants his style on his images and manages to make his shots consistent regardless of whether they were shot on Fuji or Sony. James Popsys (youtuber) also manages it and he uses a range of cameras (Panasonic, Sony, Fuji, Hasselblad)

The Fuji film simulations do make it easy to have a known starting point, but if you dig deep enough you will find that different generation of Fuji lenses render colour differently (and indeed so do different versions of the X-Trans sensor)

The grass isn't always greener on the other side, but it almost certainly will be different.

I've been in the Fuji X-System for a long time (14 years), and although my main day to day camera is a Leica, I still shoot motorsport (and car events) with an X-series camera, I accept that the AF isn't the fastest, but the £££ v performance ratio (and weight for long lens reach) means that with pre-loved gear I can afford to have a dedicated 'motorsport' setup (X-H2S, 100-400 and 50-140). The Leica's AF is nothing to write home about but its perfectly fine for me.
 
Mr Perceptive said:
@MittyKitty There is a discussion going on about AF in the X-T6 thread on the Fuji-X forum.

From my investigations, if your photography means that you need lightning fast accurate AF with excellent super-sticky tracking, then there are better offerings out there from other manufacturers (Sony/Canon). Historically Fuji have only ever played catch-up with regard to AF, so whilst the X-T6 will be an improvement on the X-T5, I certainly wouldn't expect it to be class leading, or even equal to current Sony/Canon offerings. AF never makes up for bad technique, as I know from my motorsport panning shots!

Most of the time though, and for many genres of photography the Fuji AF is prefectly good.

There are plenty of reasons to stay in the Fuji eco-system, but if AF is the absolute priority then your money may be best spent elsewhere.

With regard to colour, all the manufacturers emply their own colour science, but with some post processing work using the Raw files, you can go a long way to emulating a similar look and feel with different camera system. @LeeRatters plants his style on his images and manages to make his shots consistent regardless of whether they were shot on Fuji or Sony. James Popsys (youtuber) also manages it and he uses a range of cameras (Panasonic, Sony, Fuji, Hasselblad)

The Fuji film simulations do make it easy to have a known starting point, but if you dig deep enough you will find that different generation of Fuji lenses render colour differently (and indeed so do different versions of the X-Trans sensor)

The grass isn't always greener on the other side, but it almost certainly will be different.

I've been in the Fuji X-System for a long time (14 years), and although my main day to day camera is a Leica, I still shoot motorsport (and car events) with an X-series camera, I accept that the AF isn't the fastest, but the £££ v performance ratio (and weight for long lens reach) means that with pre-loved gear I can afford to have a dedicated 'motorsport' setup (X-H2S, 100-400 and 50-140). The Leica's AF is nothing to write home about but its perfectly fine for me.
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Lee does have the knowhow when it comes to processing, his latest hot air balloon photos shot on the A7RIII are a fine example (y)

LeeRatters

Post in thread 'The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!'

Shot some Portra 400 on the A7Riii and home developed in Lightroom.... :)


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Mr Perceptive said:
Got my dates mixed up............. its a very dangerous shop, last time I was there (as I've mentioned in the past) I left with a Q3 43, its that buy now pay later thing just opens so many doors :ROFLMAO:
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It happens, mate. I do it all the time.
Fortunately the Norwich shop only has a small cabinet for Leica, but when I (out of curiosity) looked at it, my knees buckled ;)
 
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Paulie-W said:
Thoughts on the 70-300...
After moving on my 100-400 due to the weight. I'm kinda hankering for something longer, and the 70-300 seems to fit the bill being nice and light etc. I'm going to my local wex open day on Friday, so hopefully will be able to check one out.
I just wondered if any of you guys had any experience with one.
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Another fan of the 70-300 mine is nice and sharp and its light enough for me to take it when I go out.
 
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Mr Perceptive said:
@MittyKitty There is a discussion going on about AF in the X-T6 thread on the Fuji-X forum.

From my investigations, if your photography means that you need lightning fast accurate AF with excellent super-sticky tracking, then there are better offerings out there from other manufacturers (Sony/Canon). Historically Fuji have only ever played catch-up with regard to AF, so whilst the X-T6 will be an improvement on the X-T5, I certainly wouldn't expect it to be class leading, or even equal to current Sony/Canon offerings. AF never makes up for bad technique, as I know from my motorsport panning shots!

Most of the time though, and for many genres of photography the Fuji AF is prefectly good.

There are plenty of reasons to stay in the Fuji eco-system, but if AF is the absolute priority then your money may be best spent elsewhere.

With regard to colour, all the manufacturers emply their own colour science, but with some post processing work using the Raw files, you can go a long way to emulating a similar look and feel with different camera system. @LeeRatters plants his style on his images and manages to make his shots consistent regardless of whether they were shot on Fuji or Sony. James Popsys (youtuber) also manages it and he uses a range of cameras (Panasonic, Sony, Fuji, Hasselblad)

The Fuji film simulations do make it easy to have a known starting point, but if you dig deep enough you will find that different generation of Fuji lenses render colour differently (and indeed so do different versions of the X-Trans sensor)

The grass isn't always greener on the other side, but it almost certainly will be different.

I've been in the Fuji X-System for a long time (14 years), and although my main day to day camera is a Leica, I still shoot motorsport (and car events) with an X-series camera, I accept that the AF isn't the fastest, but the £££ v performance ratio (and weight for long lens reach) means that with pre-loved gear I can afford to have a dedicated 'motorsport' setup (X-H2S, 100-400 and 50-140). The Leica's AF is nothing to write home about but its perfectly fine for me.
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snerkler said:
Lee does have the knowhow when it comes to processing, his latest hot air balloon photos shot on the A7RIII are a fine example (y)

LeeRatters

Post in thread 'The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!'

Shot some Portra 400 on the A7Riii and home developed in Lightroom.... :)


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Thank you both for your very kind words :) Appreciated.

I have spent a fair bit of time getting my images to be generally pretty consistent :ROFLMAO:
 
LeeRatters said:
Thank you both for your very kind words :) Appreciated.

I have spent a fair bit of time getting my images to be generally pretty consistent :ROFLMAO:
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I’ve spent far far more than a fair amount of time and I’m still not settled :ROFLMAO:
 
bl0at3r said:
Looking at this photo on a monitor rather than a phone, I am very taken with how sharp it is. I am also interested in the exposure - particularly the underneath of the car/tyre treads.

Have you applied sharpening or is this the lens @Mr Perceptive ?
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My LR Fuji Import profile reduces sharpening on import, I may have applied a little texture (but if I have it’s not much), the rest is down to the lens, post #79362 is with the same lens and the first image of the Porsche 962 is nice and crisp as well.

I’ve always found the 50-140 to play nicely with IBIS, but remember I’m only on a26MP sensor, the 50-140 may not play as nicely on the 40MP and the fact that the rumour mill suggests that there is a replacement coming, suggests that Fuji might think the same.
 
Mr Perceptive said:
My LR Fuji Import profile reduces sharpening on import, I may have applied a little texture (but if I have it’s not much), the rest is down to the lens, post #79362 is with the same lens and the first image of the Porsche 962 is nice and crisp as well.

I’ve always found the 50-140 to play nicely with IBIS, but remember I’m only on a26MP sensor, the 50-140 may not play as nicely on the 40MP and the fact that the rumour mill suggests that there is a replacement coming, suggests that Fuji might think the same.
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Did you lift the shadows for the wheels/tyres?
 
snerkler said:
I’ve spent far far more than a fair amount of time and I’m still not settled :ROFLMAO:
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Pick one and stick with it!

I often shoot/edit from a day out or location, village etc in one style, as if I've put a roll of film in there and it is what it is. Sometimes they all look really good, sometimes the odd image in the set doesn't look perfect..... but it is what it is. I just put up with it. The Sony balloon images were the same - one click, maybe a crop/level or exposure tweak but certainly no additional HSL, colour grading, etc for individual images.

And, did you click into them and see the amount of "grain" I added.....? And obviously detail lost! Who would have thought the 35GM could be so unsharp :ROFLMAO:
 
LeeRatters said:
Pick one and stick with it!

I often shoot/edit from a day out or location, village etc in one style, as if I've put a roll of film in there and it is what it is. Sometimes they all look really good, sometimes the odd image in the set doesn't look perfect..... but it is what it is. I just put up with it. The Sony balloon images were the same - one click, maybe a crop/level or exposure tweak but certainly no additional HSL, colour grading, etc for individual images.

And, did you click into them and see the amount of "grain" I added.....? And obviously detail lost! Who would have thought the 35GM could be so unsharp :ROFLMAO:
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I did notice the grain yeah ;)

I did have a preset I used for everything, I called it true to life and because of this it worked across the board.

However, I’ve wanted the film look for a long time and I haven’t nailed the look I want yet. I’ve come to the conclusion I want something based around classic negative but with more teal, warmer greens and less orange in the higher tones.

I thought I’d done it but then I applied it to my Donington paddock photos and it didn’t work :facepalm::ROFLMAO:
 
snerkler said:
I did notice the grain yeah ;)

I did have a preset I used for everything, I called it true to life and because of this it worked across the board.

However, I’ve wanted the film look for a long time and I haven’t nailed the look I want yet. I’ve come to the conclusion I want something based around classic negative but with more teal, warmer greens and less orange in the higher tones.

I thought I’d done it but then I applied it to my Donington paddock photos and it didn’t work :facepalm::ROFLMAO:
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I have zero experience with Classic Neg :ROFLMAO:
 
LeeRatters said:
I have zero experience with Classic Neg :ROFLMAO:
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Tbh I assumed the Fuji Kodak Porta 400 recipe used classic neg as a starting point but I’ve just looked and it’s classic chrome :ROFLMAO:
 
LeeRatters said:
Pick one and stick with it!

I often shoot/edit from a day out or location, village etc in one style, as if I've put a roll of film in there and it is what it is. Sometimes they all look really good, sometimes the odd image in the set doesn't look perfect..... but it is what it is. I just put up with it. The Sony balloon images were the same - one click, maybe a crop/level or exposure tweak but certainly no additional HSL, colour grading, etc for individual images.

And, did you click into them and see the amount of "grain" I added.....? And obviously detail lost! Who would have thought the 35GM could be so unsharp :ROFLMAO:
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Need to work on MF grain not 35mm grain!!!
 
Yeah I have been Reading on the Fuji forum about the xt-6. It will not get better I’m afraid. So I will keep my 3 as an extra body for landscape maybe :). Or sell all. My 70-300 is fairly new. So invest that money in something new ?!

It’s a bit annoying somehow. I love the feel of my camera. Love the way you use it. But that af.. sad to see that they are so far behind. Even the xh is not that good. Was in camera store today. Talked to my regular guy. Played a bit with the xh. But no .. and he agreed with me. So I will switch to a different part of this forum for now and try to decide what I want. It has to be Sony or canon. I have a workshop lined up in September. So will rent one of these 2 to see if I like it and if not then rent the other one and book a workshop ;). This is only way to find out what I like. Just a short visit to the store is not the way. There is more to this decision than body alone.

Maybe I come back here ;). You never know what rabbit comes out there Fuji hat ;). Thanks for now and your constructive remarks.
 
Mr Perceptive said:
My LR Fuji Import profile reduces sharpening on import, I may have applied a little texture (but if I have it’s not much), the rest is down to the lens, post #79362 is with the same lens and the first image of the Porsche 962 is nice and crisp as well.

I’ve always found the 50-140 to play nicely with IBIS, but remember I’m only on a26MP sensor, the 50-140 may not play as nicely on the 40MP and the fact that the rumour mill suggests that there is a replacement coming, suggests that Fuji might think the same.
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Yes!!!!
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Well whatever you did the E-Type almost sparkles.
Wanders off to look at 50-140 lenses :exit:


skullfunkerry said:
Thanks Alan! Not yet: I'm trying to wait until December to see if I get a Christmas bonus or not :)

And tbh I'm still really enjoying my T4 as well.
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T4 still takes great photos.
 
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bl0at3r said:
Well whatever you did the E-Type almost sparkles.
Wanders off to look at 50-140 lenses :exit:
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Certainly won't fit in your 'tiny' camera bag............................

This is the 2nd one I've had, I had one a long time ago with an X-H1, and I felt then that the OIS and IBIS worked well together and it too was sharp. I sold that one when I got the GFX. This one was pre-loved from Park Cameras, bought in January this year, so I had a shorter length zoom for motorsport. They are not lightweight lenses, and I'm sure that the second version when it comes will be lighter, but I am pleased with the results, and its spending more time on the camera than I expected.

I certainly wouldn't buy a new one, as they are quite expensive and values likely to take a hit if a Mk2 arrives. Pre-loved they are good VFM.
 
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Graham W said:
You must be local to me...I'm in Littleover! (y)
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snerkler said:
Derby? Not a million miles from me in Chesterfield (y)
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I used to be: I lived in Burton Road, not far from the Abbey Street junction. After that I moved to Chaddesden, but these days I'm in Rochford, Essex. I was in Derby for the weekend; I ended up with a day to myself on the Saturday so I had breakfast at the Book Café and then went for a wander :)
 
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