The Official Fuji X10/X20/X30/XF1/XQ1 Thread

Ceejay said:
Import duty/Tax/Vat could possibly increase price by 20%

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Vat alone is 20%, total could cost as much as an additional 25% but the biggest problem could be with warranty issues if it goes wrong.
 
Today saw the announcement of a real game changing camera.
Smaller than the X10.
Radical new sensor technology that makes Fuji EXR look quite old school.
Far higher quality than the X10.
What's not to like :clap:

Other than it's a phone :eek:

onlandscape.co.uk is a serious website; it's run by Tim Parkin and backed by Joe Cornish.
They know what they are talking about.
Their initial analysis of the sample images is absolutely astonishing!

That link is is recommended reading.
The small camera world may never be the same again :)
 
Hi guys, I'm looking for a little advice. I have a new project coming up that will require some food shots and I was hoping to avoid an SLR setup if possible.

This shows the type of shots I'll be after:
http://www.ambrosiabaking.com/2012/02/cherry-coke-float-cupcakes.html#.Tz_D4XyeMDw.reddit


(Shallow depth of field, shot in good light, high IQ, web use, postcard sized prints)

I was thinking Micro Four Thirds body with good quality manual focus glass but I was also wondering whether or not the x10 could do the business?
 
It's here - the X10!!!!

But it came about an hour ago and its dark so little chance to have a go but the battery is on charge and I am studying the user manual PDF on my lappy.

Next is shopping and I could use a bit of urgent help with: -

1) Spare battery source?

2) I will go with the Lowepro Apex 60 AW case but wondered the best source.

3) Not sure about using the neck strap as I have always used a wrist strap on smaller cameras but any opinions or shall I attach both??????

4) Do I need a plastic LCD protector and where can I get these?

Last evening I read the whole thread before asking these questions and hope I haven't missed any answers. Again if any kind soul can help I would be most grateful.
 
DD - here's my 2p...
1) Spare battery - I got mine from my local camera shop but you can save a few quid online. The official Fuji battery is just shy of 1000mAh and the 3rd party ones seem to be 700mAh. Once you do the maths, the Fuji battery price seems quite reasonable.
2) Get the case Online - I used Warehouse Express as I've always had good service from them, but I've seen many other online shops recommended.
3) I attached the strap briefly and decided it was getting in the way, so took it off again. I've never felt the camera slipping in my hand and I've no desire to put any form of strap back on it.
4) I think I may have one of the most abused X10's in the UK. The screen is unmarked.

I suggest you get out there and have a good play with the X10 - then decide if you need the strap or screen protector :)
 
I've got 1400mAh, 1300mAh and 1200mAh NP50 batteries all from ebay and all at considerably less than Fuji's offering. All hold there charge longer than the Fuji one.
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
4) I think I may have one of the most abused X10's in the UK.
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I doubt that very much. You have a case for yours. And I bet you use a lens cloth instead of a fleece mitten. :D

I got an Energizer 1000mAh battery from Amazon for £8 odd. Just looked now and they're down to £3.49 - so I've ordered two more.

A recent snap to brighten the thread.

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souldeep said:
Yep - but it was a refurb. EBAY is new. Thanks for pointing it out though.
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That was me who purchased the Refurb. If you use code P10FEB15 which will probably run out in the next couple of days you can get it for £328.99 delivered.

If the box did not have a refurbished sticker on the front then you thought it was brand new. Everything came in sealed bags and looked like new. You get a 12 month warranty with it and if you don't like it you get 7 days to return it.

Think these returns might just be ones sent back because of the orbs.
 
Thanks Duncan, Ed & Dave for getting back to me :thumbs:
 
Thunderbird010 said:
That was me who purchased the Refurb. If you use code P10FEB15 which will probably run out in the next couple of days you can get it for £328.99 delivered.

If the box did not have a refurbished sticker on the front then you thought it was brand new. Everything came in sealed bags and looked like new. You get a 12 month warranty with it and if you don't like it you get 7 days to return it.

Think these returns might just be ones sent back because of the orbs.
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Thanks - but one concern, and when considering my luck, I went to buy a new one from Jessops. It had tobacco inside the lens, clearly they tried to palm a second off on me however its made me wary about returns :eek:
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
Today saw the announcement of a real game changing camera.
Smaller than the X10.
Radical new sensor technology that makes Fuji EXR look quite old school.
Far higher quality than the X10.
What's not to like :clap:

Other than it's a phone :eek:

onlandscape.co.uk is a serious website; it's run by Tim Parkin and backed by Joe Cornish.
They know what they are talking about.
Their initial analysis of the sample images is absolutely astonishing!

That link is is recommended reading.
The small camera world may never be the same again :)
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Can that be for real - amazing quality!
 
Thunderbird010 said:
That was me who purchased the Refurb. If you use code P10FEB15 which will probably run out in the next couple of days you can get it for £328.99 delivered.

If the box did not have a refurbished sticker on the front then you thought it was brand new. Everything came in sealed bags and looked like new. You get a 12 month warranty with it and if you don't like it you get 7 days to return it.

Think these returns might just be ones sent back because of the orbs.
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I also bought a refurb from Fuji one as per my post 322 in this thread. Exact same experience as Thunderbird - apart from the sticker on the box you'd think it was brand new !
 
EdBray said:
I've got 1400mAh, 1300mAh and 1200mAh NP50 batteries all from ebay and all at considerably less than Fuji's offering. All hold there charge longer than the Fuji one.
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I stand corrected! :)
Plus I'm amazed at the prices being reported by the others.

Looks like what I should have said is that there are some 3rd party batteries with significantly less capacity than the OEM battery.
Check the spec before buying! :rules:
 
Hi folks, first time poster and loving my X10.

Regarding the Lowepro Apex 60 AW case, Amazon seem to be doing it for £13.95.... Bargain.
 
JimG said:
Hi folks, first time poster and loving my X10.

Regarding the Lowepro Apex 60 AW case, Amazon seem to be doing it for £13.95.... Bargain.
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Welcome to TP!
That's a lot less than I paid for my case - good find :thumbs:

In summary...
I paid too much for my X10 as it was one of the first in the UK :bang:
I paid too much for my case (didn't shop around enough) :bang:
I paid too much for my spare battery (ditto) :bang:
2/10 for effort - must try harder.........
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
Welcome to TP!
That's a lot less than I paid for my case - good find :thumbs:

In summary...
I paid too much for my X10 as it was one of the first in the UK :bang:
I paid too much for my case (didn't shop around enough) :bang:
I paid too much for my spare battery (ditto) :bang:
2/10 for effort - must try harder.........
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Duncan - you are looking at this the wrong way. You along with a few others are actually pioneers. You've helped many others both understand how to use the camera and want to go and buy one. I reckon Fuji owe you a sales commission :clap:
 
gingerweasel said:
Hi guys, I'm looking for a little advice. I have a new project coming up that will require some food shots and I was hoping to avoid an SLR setup if possible.

This shows the type of shots I'll be after:
http://www.ambrosiabaking.com/2012/02/cherry-coke-float-cupcakes.html#.Tz_D4XyeMDw.reddit


(Shallow depth of field, shot in good light, high IQ, web use, postcard sized prints)

I was thinking Micro Four Thirds body with good quality manual focus glass but I was also wondering whether or not the x10 could do the business?
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I suppose it depends. Sure, the X10, in the right hands, can stand its ground. And with Pro Focus mode and macro mode, you can obtain certain shallow DoF effects, but control over DoF is rather limited (even with 2.0-2.8 aperture). I'd just try a few test shots and see what is possible. No idea of how well you know your X10; knowing the ins and outs of a camera certainly helps in overcoming limitations and/or difficult situations.

I wouldn't worry about the picture quality, as prints of limited size are the main goal. But experience (with the X10) is definitely required, I'd say...

Let us know how you fared, gingerweasel. It would be interesting to see how the X10 performed.
 
I have pulled the trigger!! :D

Fuji X10 (Refurb)
16GB SD Card

£344 delivered next day!

Seriously excited now!!!
 
Yep, I went and got one as well. Went to Jessops to have a look and a play and that was it. They only had one in the shop and it was on display but hadn't been out long, there were no finger prints on it.
First impressions are that it looks damn good and the pictures can be punchy. I shoot raw and when viewed at more than 100% the pixels look, well, smudged. The picture looks OK though and I'm comparing it to the usual raw files from my D3. Not sure if it's me or not but can't get the flash to work when in silence mode. Have to check the manual again. I'm loving the Panorama, This was from this morning straight out of the camera apart from resizing to 800Pix wide -

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And 2 more taken on my walk back home from the Jessops, JPGs atraignt from the camera again.

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No doubts there will be more examples to follow in the next few weeks.
Thanks for a useful and informative thread.
 
If anyone is after a cheap case and leather wrist strap I have a new and unused set for sale in the classifieds as work bought me a gariz case as a thank you for a job I did....
 
I currently own an Olympus XZ-1 which I find to be quite a good compact camera especially for indoor shots in lowish light.

Would the X10 be a clear improvement over it, especially in terms of ISO performance?
 
Bruin said:
I shoot raw and when viewed at more than 100% the pixels look, well, smudged. The picture looks OK though and I'm comparing it to the usual raw files from my D3. Not sure if it's me or not but can't get the flash to work when in silence mode.
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I have to keep reminding myself the X10 is a jumped up point and shoot compact camera and stop comparing it it to a 'pro' DSLR. You can't compare a screwdriver with a hammer. Get the mindset right and satisfaction ensues. ;)

The flash will not fire in silent mode.

I'm finding it is actually better than an SLR for an ongoing project photographing 'lost' balls. I can much more easily get low environmental close ups of them with the X10.

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My only real niggles are it's native 3:4 ratio and the less than accurate optical viewfinder. Everything else is great for what it is. But it is not an SLR.
 
Yes I agree, I'm thinking of it in SLR terms. Strange about the flash and silent mode, can't think of the logic there. And I still go to the top plate to turn it on.....
 
I imagine the silent mode is envisaged for use in situations where you don't want to annoy people, or to remain discreet, places where a flash might upset other people present - like a theatre. But seeing as the flash doesn't pop up automatically it is a bit of overkill.
 
gingerweasel said:
Hi guys, I'm looking for a little advice. I have a new project coming up that will require some food shots and I was hoping to avoid an SLR setup if possible.

This shows the type of shots I'll be after:
http://www.ambrosiabaking.com/2012/02/cherry-coke-float-cupcakes.html#.Tz_D4XyeMDw.reddit


(Shallow depth of field, shot in good light, high IQ, web use, postcard sized prints)

I was thinking Micro Four Thirds body with good quality manual focus glass but I was also wondering whether or not the x10 could do the business?
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robenroute said:
I suppose it depends. Sure, the X10, in the right hands, can stand its ground. And with Pro Focus mode and macro mode, you can obtain certain shallow DoF effects, but control over DoF is rather limited (even with 2.0-2.8 aperture). I'd just try a few test shots and see what is possible. No idea of how well you know your X10; knowing the ins and outs of a camera certainly helps in overcoming limitations and/or difficult situations.

I wouldn't worry about the picture quality, as prints of limited size are the main goal. But experience (with the X10) is definitely required, I'd say...

Let us know how you fared, gingerweasel. It would be interesting to see how the X10 performed.
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Thanks Rob. Appreciate the feedback. Not sure what I'm going to do yet....
 
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Ed Sutton said:
I imagine the silent mode is envisaged for use in situations where you don't want to annoy people, or to remain discreet, places where a flash might upset other people present - like a theatre. But seeing as the flash doesn't pop up automatically it is a bit of overkill.
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I call it Stealth Mode.... :)
It's very useful at festivals and social situations where you want proper candids without the focus illuminator coming on and giving the game away.
 
Has anyone tried using the X10 for infrared photography yet?

I've got a 72nm Kood filter that I've been experimenting with but I can't quite seem to get things right. If I convert the images to mono, they look really good but I'm beginning to think that the lack of decent sunshine might be having an effect too! :thinking:
 
Spiritflier said:
Has anyone tried using the X10 for infrared photography yet?

I've got a 72nm Kood filter that I've been experimenting with but I can't quite seem to get things right. If I convert the images to mono, they look really good but I'm beginning to think that the lack of decent sunshine might be having an effect too! :thinking:
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I think there are two of us who have posted IR piccies elsewhere into this thread.
I found the X10 works very well with the hot spot well controlled.
But I only used it hand held, hence my ISO was rather high and I deliberately enhanced the grain.

Compared to my other cameras the X10 is a joy for IR.
The LX3 has a huge hot spot which makes the images unusable.
The 5DII has such an effective IR blocking filter that cutting out the visible light means massively long exposure. Big aperture and high ISO can get the exposure times down to just a few minutes, but most of the time it is like photographing stars.
 
yep, used it for IR and love it. I just need to sort out my filter holder and all will be groovy. Ive used a tripod so far as the exposures are a little too long for me to hand hold, but im pretty happy with the end result.

In what way do you think things are not right?
 
Only had the X10 for 2 days and have not been out much.

This was with maximum zoom using P mode. A very high contrast scene into the light so probably expecting too much. Do you think I should be able to do better by tweaking some parameters? With the light changing so fast it was hard to experiment.

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Hi everyone. I am new to the forum and I have had my X10 for only a week or so.

Firstly I would like to say "Thank you" for this great thread. I have studied all 22 pages thus far and it has been most useful. What an awesome group of people here.

I haven't had a lot of chances to get out yet however the few pics I have taken have been good, however the overall sharpness does not appear to be as good as most of the shots in this thread (landscapes primarily).

Most of my shots have all been handheld, so I am wondering if that may be the answer. Are most of you using a tripod? And if so what do you set the 'IS' selector to?

I come from the pre-IS film world and I used a tripod for most of my shots, but my smallest tripod is a manfrotto 55C and I haven't bothered putting this tiny camera on the big tripod yet (hard to get my head around the concept actually). Maybe that is the trick though to cure my less than sharp images.

Any suggestions or recommendations on this front? As to color, DR and what not I am very pleased with what it can do. Perhaps if we ever get some sun I can get out and make some nice shots. (for those of you not familiar with Nova Scotia this is not the most vibrant time of year :) )

I will post some pics soon. Thank you all again for this great forum and this thread in particular.

Randy
 
Hi all, I'm posting mainly so that it flashes up on my 'participated' threads and it's easier I find :-)

It's a great thread from what I have read and it's really tempting me to get one.

I've had an LX5 and I'm just wondering if the X10 is much better and in what ways?

Thanks

Colin
 
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