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Until today!

I attended a course today about going self employed (not photography!), but someone else on the course was starting his own business as a photographer which I thought was great – someone new to talk about photography with been as I’ve bored the missus rigid!
Anyway I asked about his photography and was left speechless by what he said, basically his only photographic experience is taking photos of his kids on his compact camera and wants to be a photographer so that he can take pictures of semi-nude and nude models!
He’s found a different course that for £2000 will teach him everything about photography – well it is a 2 week course so shouldn’t be a problem in learning everything!
He’s looking to get a grant to purchase all his camera equipment – he can’t remember the name of the camera that he’s going to get but the bloke doing the photography course told him that it’s what he needs. He’s also going to get some light things!
Then after doing the course, he’s going to start charging straight away and is already looking for weddings to do!
This business has got success written all over it :)
 
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I really feel for anyone who books this bloke, then again i dont think he will be in much of a state after the first groom gets his hands on him.
 
but has he decided to get an accountant or do his own books
all that money
 
Just think yet another (supposed) wedding Tog in the news in a few months........

quote from unhappy Bride :- "None of our photo's were any good and all the photographer could say was "my light thingy's did not work""
 
james_death said:
I really feel for anyone who books this bloke, then again i dont think he will be in much of a state after the first groom gets his hands on him.
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He tried getting a couple of other people on the course to use him for product photography for their new business but I had a quiet word with them and they decided to look elsewhere :)
 
The thing that really got me though was the fact that he's pretty much got a grant sorted for around £5000 worth of equipment and is now looking for help with paying the course fees!
Everyone else on the course are struggling big time to get any help and the one that hasn't got a clue is getting loads of help!
 
blacksheep said:
He tried getting a couple of other people on the course to use him for product photography for their new business but I had a quiet word with them and they decided to look elsewhere :)
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That was very considerate of you...well done sir!!!
 
blacksheep said:
The thing that really got me though was the fact that he's pretty much got a grant sorted for around £5000 worth of equipment and is now looking for help with paying the course fees!
Everyone else on the course are struggling big time to get any help and the one that hasn't got a clue is getting loads of help!
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I'd take that with a pinch of salt, mate - he sounds like he's full of it. :)
 
I cant even get a grant to pay the full cost of the last year of my uni course! Wheres he getting his grants from!?

He obviously thinks its as easy auto-point-click

I just hope no one is willing to pay him for their special day without him having good photos to show them first!
 
Because he was made redundant (or anyone in South Wales) there's funding available for getting back into work, especially to go self employed and different local authorities have various grants for new businesses depending on type of business and location.

Hopefully he was full of it and they'll want to see a portfolio before he get any help!
 
Should have told him he really needs a Hassy HD60 to do such high end stuff well. Let's see him get a grant for that!

I could not get a bean towards mine. Apparently I'm too posh! :)
 
AliB said:
Should have told him he really needs a Hassy HD60 to do such high end stuff well. Let's see him get a grant for that!

I could not get a bean towards mine. Apparently I'm too posh! :)
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Should move to South Wales - you can even get help in buying some light things for proper photography!
 
sorry i was sure when i woke this moring it was november the 27th not april 1st..
 
The thing that strikes me though is that the folk running the start up course have not advised him that he is has so much to learn before he can set up.
Maybe it is they who are the biggest fools.
 
blacksheep said:
He’s looking to get a grant to purchase all his camera equipment – he can’t remember the name of the camera that he’s going to get but the bloke doing the photography course told him that it’s what he needs
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There is only one brand for this gentleman, it's a Dickon ;)
 
sawman said:
The thing that strikes me though is that the folk running the start up course have not advised him that he is has so much to learn before he can set up.
Maybe it is they who are the biggest fools.
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This course is just about going self employed and details of tax, legal requirements etc not about skill levels or how good you are at your choice of career. The funding comes from being made redundant and to get back into work but hopefully when they look into it a bit further they'll realise that it's a waste of time funding this bloke!
If he does get the funding then it is a complete joke.
 
blacksheep said:
This course is just about going self employed and details of tax, legal requirements etc not about skill levels or how good you are at your choice of career. The funding comes from being made redundant and to get back into work but hopefully when they look into it a bit further they'll realise that it's a waste of time funding this bloke!
If he does get the funding then it is a complete joke.
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I would certainly hope so.
About three years ago now I started on my own & went to the local employment place where they help you start up. All I wanted was advice about keeping a simple set of books. The "adviser" went out of his way to convince me I needed funding for a 4x4 as my business premises were on a farm & "farm roads are all muddy & potholed" I never went back to them ! Didnae take his advice either.
 
Oh, burger...
blacksheep I didn't realise we were on the same course!

:)
 
My "Business advisor"s first question was "when are you having your car signwritten?"

My reply was "Are you completely deranged?"

He looked a tad perplexed................

"OK so I live just outside Manchester and you want me to put a ruddy great sign on my car that screams "I have 10K of kit in here......help yourself""

"Shall I leave it to you to explain that one to my insurers?"
 
Right, that's it sorted. When I'm made redundant I'm moving to South Wales.
Then I'm getting me a grant to become an astronort ann fly in to the mune in a big space racket.
 
AliB said:
My "Business advisor"s first question was "when are you having your car signwritten?"

My reply was "Are you completely deranged?"

He looked a tad perplexed................

"OK so I live just outside Manchester and you want me to put a ruddy great sign on my car that screams "I have 10K of kit in here......help yourself""

"Shall I leave it to you to explain that one to my insurers?"
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:D
 
sawman said:
I would certainly hope so.
About three years ago now I started on my own & went to the local employment place where they help you start up. All I wanted was advice about keeping a simple set of books. The "adviser" went out of his way to convince me I needed funding for a 4x4 as my business premises were on a farm & "farm roads are all muddy & potholed" I never went back to them ! Didnae take his advice either.
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The courses on offer look pretty good, there's some on marketing, tax, vat, bookkeeping etc and it's all free and funded by the Welsh Assembly.
 
wegotitugetit said:
did he say about a website will be nice to have a look and admire his work

:suspect:
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He'll probably have a website built after he's done a few weddings and built up a portfolio :)

When asked why he wanted to go self employed, he said to make a lot of money - so much for researching your market!
 
AliB said:
My "Business advisor"s first question was "when are you having your car signwritten?"

My reply was "Are you completely deranged?"

He looked a tad perplexed................

"OK so I live just outside Manchester and you want me to put a ruddy great sign on my car that screams "I have 10K of kit in here......help yourself""

"Shall I leave it to you to explain that one to my insurers?"
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My van says 'No Tools Left in Van Overnight'........................





I always drop the lads off at the pub............
 
That grant wouldn't be from CareersWales would it?
Having been made redundant they came along with promises of retraining paid for ... providing the course was not greater than 12 months; didn't actually teach you a trade like , plumbing, electrician, carpentry - apparently there are enough of those unemployed already so no desire to train more :eek:
Amazing how many courses were six weeks long! I consider myself to be a fast learner but learning a new career in six weeks?

Maybe I should find a photography course to do and get them to pay :)
This guy may be ok, you never know ;) I bought a DSLR without a clear understanding of what I even wanted to photograph, I just knew my Fuji Finepix compact involved too much foot zoom and the DSLR had "proper" zoom :)
One year later I discovered things like DOF (albeit limited on 4/3s) , had mastered stationary objects, got a good handle on cars/bikes on a track and then some fool asked me to do horses in competition, certainly not stationary and far from predictable:bonk:
Good job I learn best under pressure :)
Hmm reading that back I sound further down the road than the soon to be self employed dude. If only I could live with myself for mucking up someone's wedding/photoshoot .....
 
Gotta give the guy credit for trying though because he could just have choosen to stay on the dole and to be very honest one of the best photographers that I know only got a dslr after 2 years of using a canon bridge camera and she has done photo shoots with elton john,amir khan,jeremy clarkson and loads of other celebs with no dslr so I personally wouldnt be too quick to judge or gloat.
He may be destined to fail but he is trying and thats great.
 
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