To carry two bodies on vacation or not?

OK lest do some math:

A7: 127x94x48=573024
6D: 145x111x71=1142745

1142745/573024=0.50144

(ie 50% smaller or half the size of the 6D)
Or, if you multiply all the figures by 0.5 as separate figures rather than lumping it together you get what I posted. Having held both (well, the original a7), it's definitely not half the size of the 6d.

I'm no mathematician, I'm simply referring to dimensions as that's the reality of holding and carrying the thing.
 
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Told u that the a7 is compact! Can't see a better camera then that at the price point. It's a justified tool to use as a second body!
No you said it's the "best compact"!

Anyway, we know it's smaller, but I think the OP has already discounted getting an A7!

I do agree though as a travel camera it's pretty much unbeatable, as long as you have the lenses you need!
 
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I do a lot of street photography myself and understand why you would want 2 bodies, personally I'm now concentrating on less weight and smaller primes but we're all different. Chinatown is bedlam at times in BKK, I think 2 pro bodies and F2.8 glass over your shoulders will make you a target and be rather cumbersome between the street stalls, plus it's horribly humid and rather you than me carrying that lot. The 24-70 will get you 90% of your shots, walk out again the next time with the longer lens and look for portraits. I'd take 2 bodies but one would be a spare back in the hotel room!
 
I do a lot of street photography myself and understand why you would want 2 bodies, personally I'm now concentrating on less weight and smaller primes but we're all different. Chinatown is bedlam at times in BKK, I think 2 pro bodies and F2.8 glass over your shoulders will make you a target and be rather cumbersome between the street stalls, plus it's horribly humid and rather you than me carrying that lot. The 24-70 will get you 90% of your shots, walk out again the next time with the longer lens and look for portraits. I'd take 2 bodies but one would be a spare back in the hotel room!
This!
 
OK lest do some math:

A7: 127x94x48=573024
6D: 145x111x71=1142745

1142745/573024=0.50144

(ie 50% smaller or half the size of the 6D)

To be half the size wouldn't the dimensions need to be half, i.e 50% of the other?

A7 (of the 6D dimensions) = 87% x 84% x 76%
 
To be half the size wouldn't the dimensions need to be half, i.e 50% of the other?

A7 (of the 6D dimensions) = 87% x 84% x 76%
Indeed, hense why my calculations were based on that. Its certainly not half the size!
 
Hire a Canon EF 28-300mm F3.5-5.6 L IS USM ;)

But can also recommend the Fuji X100S for street and they are fairly cheap now small,silent and a fantastic little camera but eat batteries so i carry three.
 
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I do a lot of street photography myself and understand why you would want 2 bodies, personally I'm now concentrating on less weight and smaller primes but we're all different. Chinatown is bedlam at times in BKK, I think 2 pro bodies and F2.8 glass over your shoulders will make you a target and be rather cumbersome between the street stalls, plus it's horribly humid and rather you than me carrying that lot. The 24-70 will get you 90% of your shots, walk out again the next time with the longer lens and look for portraits. I'd take 2 bodies but one would be a spare back in the hotel room!

This also, spent a month in Kuala Lumpur and only every had one body, one lens with me and I managed to come away with what I wanted.
 
if you take your wife, easy ……. maybe if it's a new girlfriend she may complain
 
halving the linear dimensions would create a camera 8x smaller
But it's not half the size, that's plain fact.

So your maths as quoted might have mathematic merit (though I think incorrectly applied), it doesn't relate to the real life size dimensions of the product, whereas Welshnoobs figures do which relate to how I've calculated it, and they relate precisely to the real life size differences, in that the a7 is roughly 80% (give or take) the size of the 6d.
 
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if i ordered a half pint of beer and the glass was half the height and half the width of a pint glass id not be happy!

But would you not agree with the above, the a7 isn't half the size of the 6d, it's (roughly) about 80% of the size, handholding it, as its dimensions would suggest?
 
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if you take your wife, easy ……. maybe if it's a new girlfriend she may complain

I found the opposite of this to be true. Although not married, been together for years :LOL: We also went through a stage of not being allowed to take photos of her, then i was, and now i'm not again unless on holiday or at a wedding or something :LOL:

I don't think the OP wanted to buy another camera to take with him, he wanted advice on taking 2 of his existing cameras. He already has some excellent equipment, i'm sure he doesn't need to spend £1000 to save some weight off one of his bodies, especially as he hasn't actually quibbed about the weight, more the security.

Shayne, if you're happy carrying 2 bodies then go for it i say. If last time you were annoyed about missing shots through lens changes etc then i think you know the solution, 2 bodies or a different setup of lenses although i'd argue why spend all that money on ace lenses to not take them on a photography trip? (you don't mention if you have any others that may be more suitable) Putting a camera in a bag may secure it whilst not in use, but you have to factor in whether taking it out of the bag will make you miss your shot in the same way as swapping lenses.

Cracking shots from last time by the way, i can see why you'd want your best gear with you to capture it all :)
 
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I found the opposite of this to be true. Although not married, been together for years :LOL: We also went through a stage of not being allowed to take photos of her, then i was, and now i'm not again unless on holiday or at a wedding or something :LOL:

I don't think the OP wanted to buy another camera to take with him, he wanted advice on taking 2 of his existing cameras. He already has some excellent equipment, i'm sure he doesn't need to spend £1000 to save some weight off one of his bodies, especially as he hasn't actually quibbed about the weight, more the security.

Shayne, if you're happy carrying 2 bodies then go for it i say. If last time you were annoyed about missing shots through lens changes etc then i think you know the solution, 2 bodies or a different setup of lenses although i'd argue why spend all that money on ace lenses to not take them on a photography trip? (you don't mention if you have any others that may be more suitable) Putting a camera in a bag may secure it whilst not in use, but you have to factor in whether taking it out of the bag will make you miss your shot in the same way as swapping lenses.

Cracking shots from last time by the way, i can see why you'd want your best gear with you to capture it all :)


my suggestion was that his wife or GF could carry all his kit!!!
 
Sorry for the confusion, so did I, my experiences differed though. When we first started going out she didn't mind carrying it, now she's of the opinion "you brought it, you can carry it" lmao. She even bought me messenger style bag for me to carry my own :lol:
 
Have you thought/come across the lens flipper?
 
To give an answer to your specific question, I think that if carrying around the bulk and weight of two bodies and two fast lenses in the heat of Bangkok for a week, is a sacrifice you're prepared to make to get the pictures you want, then go for it.

Why not take both bodies and try using them both for the day, and if it doesn't work, then leave one in the hotel for the rest of the week?

Thanks for answering my question.
 
Bangkok is a very safe city. Having said that carrying two expensive cameras and lenses at the same time will make you stand out from the crowd and could give you problems in any city anywhere.

I was thinking about putting one camera in a bag with the strap of the bag and the camera around my shoulder. This way it would not be out in the open drawing attention but I could still access it fast.
 
No doubt about it being brilliant, but I can't think of a worse lens to take for street photography. That's just my preference and they way I shoot though.

The 70-200 makes everything look pretty, but mostly tells you nothing about where you are in the world and keeps too much distance between you and the subject. For me street is about getting in close, talking to people and having an experience. Maybe even sharing my pictures with them.

Two bodies swinging about your body with big zooms attached is about as far away from my street photography experience as you can get :D

I was going to make a joke about looking like an American tourist, but meant no offence whatsoever to Shayne :p


No doubt about it being brilliant, but I can't think of a worse lens to take for street photography. That's just my preference and they way I shoot though.

The 70-200 makes everything look pretty, but mostly tells you nothing about where you are in the world and keeps too much distance between you and the subject. For me street is about getting in close, talking to people and having an experience. Maybe even sharing my pictures with them.

Two bodies swinging about your body with big zooms attached is about as far away from my street photography experience as you can get :D

I was going to make a joke about looking like an American tourist, but meant no offence whatsoever to Shayne :p

If you think there is only one way to capture street photography you have been reading too many books and not shooting enough. :mooning: I will say,,, open your mind and you will discover....
 
If you think there is only one way to capture street photography you have been reading too many books and not shooting enough. :mooning: I will say,,, open your mind and you will discover....

Each to their own. I never said there's only one way to capture street photography, just that the way I do it is pretty much the opposite of yours.

The reason I do what I do isn't because it's written in a book. It's because of the experiences I have when I'm shooting on the street. If anything, I shoot for the experience more than anything else.

Last week when I was shooting portraits of Iranian sailors at the Creek in Dubai. I shot some frames and we talked for a while. Not about anything serious, just about Iran and how it was unlikely I'd ever visit. They said the same about England and we chatted some more. I left about an hour later after being shown around their boat and having some chai with the captain and some of the younger sailors. That's what street photography means to me. Would the same thing have happened if I had two pro bodies and zooms hanging around my neck? I honestly don't think it would.

Although not my pic, this is from the same day

15g4bj6.jpg
 
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Each to their own. I never said there's only one way to capture street photography, just that the way I do it is pretty much the opposite of yours.

The reason I do what I do isn't because it's written in a book. It's because of the experiences I have when I'm shooting on the street. If anything, I shoot for the experience more than anything else.

Last week when I was shooting portraits of Iranian sailors at the Creek in Dubai. I shot some frames and we talked for a while. Not about anything serious, just about Iran and how it was unlikely I'd ever visit. They said the same about England and we chatted some more. I left about an hour later after being shown around their boat and having some chai with the captain and some of the younger sailors. That's what street photography means to me. Would the same thing have happened if I had two pro bodies and zooms hanging around my neck? I honestly don't think it would.

Although not my pic, this is from the same day

15g4bj6.jpg
Wait a sec. That bloke looks familiar. Famous togger
 
Wait a sec. That bloke looks familiar. Famous togger

Yeah Zack Arias. I was shooting some street photography with him in Dubai.

The point I was making is the reaction you get when you're up close and personal and getting to know people. And how much easier that is with a simple unobtrusive set up.
 
If you think there is only one way to capture street photography you have been reading too many books and not shooting enough. :mooning: I will say,,, open your mind and you will discover....

Yeah Zack Arias. I was shooting some street photography with him in Dubai.

The point I was making is the reaction you get when you're up close and personal and getting to know people. And how much easier that is with a simple unobtrusive set up.

Gets told to stop reading books and go out and shoot more.

Has done, with Zack Arias.

Brilliant :)
 
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Yeah Zack Arias. I was shooting some street photography with him in Dubai.

The point I was making is the reaction you get when you're up close and personal and getting to know people. And how much easier that is with a simple unobtrusive set up.
that guys a legend.

what was his shooting style like?
 
Gets told to stop reading books and go out and shoot more.

Has done, with Zack Arias.

Brilliant :)

For those of you who remember House Party from the late 80's early 90's......"you didn't play, you just got played out"

It's like being told to stop reading about football and then casually mentioning you've had a kick about with some guys called Messi and Ronaldo!

For what it's worth, big sensored compact (ie in your pocket compact) and a dslr. I'm sure it's probably very safe but my view is why take excess risk? Especially if you're shooting by yourself.
 
Each to their own. I never said there's only one way to capture street photography, just that the way I do it is pretty much the opposite of yours.

The reason I do what I do isn't because it's written in a book. It's because of the experiences I have when I'm shooting on the street. If anything, I shoot for the experience more than anything else.

Last week when I was shooting portraits of Iranian sailors at the Creek in Dubai. I shot some frames and we talked for a while. Not about anything serious, just about Iran and how it was unlikely I'd ever visit. They said the same about England and we chatted some more. I left about an hour later after being shown around their boat and having some chai with the captain and some of the younger sailors. That's what street photography means to me. Would the same thing have happened if I had two pro bodies and zooms hanging around my neck? I honestly don't think it would.

Although not my pic, this is from the same day

15g4bj6.jpg

I almost gave up on this thread, glad I didn't, brilliant
 
Each to their own. I never said there's only one way to capture street photography, just that the way I do it is pretty much the opposite of yours.

The reason I do what I do isn't because it's written in a book. It's because of the experiences I have when I'm shooting on the street. If anything, I shoot for the experience more than anything else.

Last week when I was shooting portraits of Iranian sailors at the Creek in Dubai. I shot some frames and we talked for a while. Not about anything serious, just about Iran and how it was unlikely I'd ever visit. They said the same about England and we chatted some more. I left about an hour later after being shown around their boat and having some chai with the captain and some of the younger sailors. That's what street photography means to me. Would the same thing have happened if I had two pro bodies and zooms hanging around my neck? I honestly don't think it would.

Although not my pic, this is from the same day

15g4bj6.jpg

I used to in the film days,if working aboard carry,3 SLR bodies & an Leica M-6 with quite a few lens,some of the stuff might be left in the hotel room as backup,but it never stopped me me from sitting and talking to people,sometimes i have really long conversion lasting for hours :)
 
Yeah Zack Arias. I was shooting some street photography with him in Dubai.

The point I was making is the reaction you get when you're up close and personal and getting to know people. And how much easier that is with a simple unobtrusive set up.

Sorry its not about the gear its about your approach to people,i have seen people with very small compacts,upset people :(
 
Sorry its not about the gear its about your approach to people,i have seen people with very small compacts,upset people :(

This. It's all about being personable. Doesn't matter how big (or small) your camera is.

That being said, I'd ditch the second body and 70-200. 24-70 will cover you for 90% of situations, just accept that photographs that require more reach don't exist for that trip. Or you could get a 28-300.
 
Sorry its not about the gear its about your approach to people,i have seen people with very small compacts,upset people :(

Like I said in my original post, from my perspective I can't think of anything worse than two bods/heavy lenses. I'm not saying there's a right or wrong way. Of course there isn't.

If I was the OP I'd definitely be leaving one body in the safe!
 
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