Beginner What is the best cloud back up service?

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I've tried Google drive, but it takes ages. Flickre is on the way out, I don't have much money and I used portable sticks. What would you recommend please?
 
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What is it you’re looking to backup. I use Backblaze to back up my entire hard, it takes ages initially but then it only uploads the changes, new files. It costs about £3.5 ish a month or £40 for the year (pricing is in usd). I can send you a link for a free month if you want to give it a try. Alternatively there is also Dropbox, MS Cloud, iCloud although for storing copies although I wouldn’t describe these as a true backup just secondary storage and for viewing images in the world, whereas Backblaze runs in the background amending your backup automatically as you make changes
 

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What is it about Google drive that takes ages?
The upload to any cloud provider will take about the same amount of time. I am not sure what your issue with Google drive is, could you clarify?
 
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First check your upload and download speed using a site like this:

http://www.speedtest.net/

Your network might be the limiting factor.

Microsoft gives you 1TB of OneDrive storage with their Office 365 Personal package for £60 a year. Google One does 2TB for £80 a year.
 
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Lately, I often come across positive feedback of Amazon storage, but personally, I'm not familiar with it. Also, how about Dropbox?
 

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Lately, I often come across positive feedback of Amazon storage, but personally, I'm not familiar with it. Also, how about Dropbox?
It's good if you want more than photo storage. If you are just interested in photos like me then Amazon prime is best value as far as I know. Rest of my important files which are mainly docs easily fit on the 15GB free from Google docs

There are also storage options with Lightroom CC now. That may be an interesting option. Something I may consider in the future.
 
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I've tried Google drive, but it takes ages. Flickre is on the way out, I don't have much money and I used portable sticks. What would you recommend please?
What kind of "back up" do you want?

1. Do you mean you want some of your files put on the cloud storage so that you can access them from any computers, for the purpose of keep working on the same file, from any computers, anywhere?

OR...

2. Do you mean you want to make copies of all your original files and keep the copies somewhere safe on the cloud, so that if you find your original file(s) is/are missing, you can restore the file by making a copy from the back up to your computer, wherever you are?


Google Drive and Flickr are not really a backup services, they are more of an online storage services, you Save your files to those so that you can share your files, or work on your files from anywhere. For actual backup, you need proper online backup services like Backblaze, and similar services.
 
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What is it about Google drive that takes ages?
The photos when they upload, even one at a time. Took all night to download even one. Amazon storage charges doesn't it? Dropbox is ok, but it charges after a while.
 
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The photos when they upload, even one at a time. Took all night to download even one. Amazon storage charges doesn't it? Dropbox is ok, but it charges after a while.
What numbers do you get from speedtest?

Most services charge for a decent amount of storage. You can put 'unlimited' photos on Google Photos for free, but only if they are 16 Megapixels or less. Amazon Prime does give you 'unlimited' photo storage for no extra charge, doesn't limit resolution, and allows raw files.
 
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I am with Amazon prime, does that mean I can get free storage too?
Yep. Unlimited free photos. Downside is that you lose it if you stop paying for Amazon Prime.

Edit to add if you go to your account and look at the drop down menu, it's called Amazon Storage. You download the desktop app and away you go.
 
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Keep getting
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If you consistently get numbers like that, then your connection is slow, especially for uploads (from your computer to the cloud service). Mbps = Megabits per second. 1 bit = 1/8 of a byte, so 0.52 Megabits per second = 0.065 Megabytes per second. So it would take just over 15 seconds to upload a megabyte, or over 5 minutes to upload a single 20 Megabyte raw file (roughly what your D5300 outputs). Unfortunately, although your numbers are on the low side for a standard broadband connection, they may well be limited by the quality of your local phone connection rather than the ISP, and it may not be possible to get a dramatically better connection without paying for fibre broadband, which will generally be at least 9 Megabits per second for upload (~17 times faster) and at least 35 Megabits per second for download.
 
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I am not sure what your issue with Google drive is, could you clarify?
If you consistently get numbers like that, then your connection is slow, especially for uploads (from your computer to the cloud service). Mbps = Megabits per second. 1 bit = 1/8 of a byte, so 0.52 Megabits per second = 0.065 Megabytes per second. So it would take just over 15 seconds to upload a megabyte, or over 5 minutes to upload a single 20 Megabyte raw file (roughly what your D5300 outputs). Unfortunately, although your numbers are on the low side for a standard broadband connection, they may well be limited by the quality of your local phone connection rather than the ISP, and it may not be possible to get a dramatically better connection without paying for fibre broadband, which will generally be at least 9 Megabits per second for upload (~17 times faster) and at least 35 Megabits per second for download.
Does that mean I'm slow and need to go to fibre?
 
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Does that mean I'm slow and need to go to fibre?
Pretty much.

Even with fibre, it's worth doing some back of the envelope calculations so you know what to expect. What size files or folders do you want to store? In Windows, you can just right-click on a file or folder, select properties, and read the size in megabytes. If all your photos are in one place, just get the size of the top level folder (directory). Otherwise, measure some typical file sizes and estimate how many of them you want to store. Then we can work out how long it would take to upload them all to the cloud. Some services might be a bit faster than others, but I think the network itself is likely to be the limiting factor on most domestic connections (right now, yours certainly is!).
 
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With the basic Sky broadband package you might hope to get around double the upload speed you actually see, but lots of things can affect this, including the quality of the line. And I'd say even 1 Megabit per second would be too slow for cloud backup of significant numbers of image files. So a fibre package would probably make sense.
 
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I get similar internet speeds (download 3.3Mbps Upload 0.75Mbps) and I've totally discounted any form of cloud backup until the network/exchange is upgraded. I could go with Virgin but don't like the idea that they would have a monopoly as the only fibre provider for my home.

I currently use 2 portable hard drives for offsite backup. One is kept away from home and the other is kept at home until I take it off site to swap over.

Do need to use cloud backup?
 
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Only thing is they charge a fortune for it, and I need help seting it up.
You can probably do a lot better than Sky on price, and setting up may just involve swapping out the router:

https://broadband.moneysavingexpert.com/fibre-broadband-deals

This assumes you have the option - in some areas the infrastructure hasn't been upgraded to support competitive fibre providers (looks like Rob has this problem). Note also that some companies hike the price when the initial deal runs out, so be prepared to change again or re-negotiate in a years's time.
 
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You can probably do a lot better than Sky on price, and setting up may just involve swapping out the router:

https://broadband.moneysavingexpert.com/fibre-broadband-deals

This assumes you have the option - in some areas the infrastructure hasn't been upgraded to support competitive fibre providers (looks like Rob has this problem). Note also that some companies hike the price when the initial deal runs out, so be prepared to change again or re-negotiate in a years's time.
Thats my biggest problem that it’s not competitive. I would love to go fibre but don’t want to be held to ransom as they hike prices after the deal reroof. Whilst I haven’t experienced super fast broadband at home I’m not going to miss it.

Got to love BT’s optimism: CF1F5DD6-7BD3-420E-B256-6EF00F619C18.jpeg
Wow 4Mb!!! Where do I sign?

@LouiseTopp have a look at what fibre broadband you can get but also consider offsite backup options too.
 
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If you have a lot of pictures, cloud backup is not for you. Especially not at the internet speeds you're getting.

Not only does it take a huge amount of time to upload the pictures, if something does go wrong, how long will it take to download them back to your computer?

Much better to use multiple backups on external HDDs, and keep one off-site in case of robbery or an accident.
 
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