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my friend has found this bird with a broken leg, he hasnt a clue what it is and neither have I, can anybody identify it please ?



he is on the way to an out of hours vet with it as we speak,lets hope the little fella makes it(y)
 
Its a juvinile harris hawk
God knows what its doing "out"
Its a falconry non native bird
 
cheers cobra and geoff much appreciated......it might be the offspring of a local scallys bird, pitbulls are so yesterday dont ya know:naughty:
 
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cheers cobra much appreciated......it might be the offspring of a local scallys bird, pitbulls are so yesterday dont ya know:naughty:
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Absolutley, and yes I'd put money it ;)
It may well have done it in the breeding mews and was thrown to die out rather than killed.
 
Brendan Mulachy said:

bird by bigdave88, on Flickr

my friend has found this bird with a broken leg, he hasnt a clue what it is and neither have I, can anybody identify it please ?



he is on the way to an out of hours vet with it as we speak,lets hope the little fella makes it(y)
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I have two harrises myself, and, it is a sad reflection of the times, that birds of prey have no worth or value anymore.....
 
How sad for such a beautiful creature :( hope it pulls through.
 
Solo man said:
I have two harrises myself, and, it is a sad reflection of the times, that birds of prey have no worth or value anymore.....
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Yes but we all know the reason for that, certainly with HH's
too many back yard breeders.
I remember early 70's when they were very much a rarity,
female Finnish Gos money may have got you one ;)

 
Cobra said:
Yes but we all know the reason for that, certainly with HH's
too many back yard breeders.
I remember early 70's when they were very much a rarity,
female Finnish Gos money may have got you one ;)
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Yes, but, Gosses are going the same way....
It's all about easy money....
One of my harrises was found in the wild.... so technically he's not mine, but no one came forward to claim him...
 

I'm a bit out of touch with Gos prices, TBH
as I only really fly longwings these days.
But The German x Finnish certainly were knocking the price down,
even a few years ago.

And as you know, you only have to look at the IBR losts and found.
People get 'em cant handle 'em and just "lose" 'em by design or accident.
Mostly by accident I guess, due to the ones I have "recovered" in the past,
still wearing a lot of kit ;)
 
Cobra said:

I'm a bit out of touch with Gos prices, TBH
as I only really fly longwings these days.
But The German x Finnish certainly were knocking the price down,
even a few years ago.

And as you know, you only have to look at the IBR losts and found.
People get 'em cant handle 'em and just "lose" 'em by design or accident.
Mostly by accident I guess, due to the ones I have "recovered" in the past,
still wearing a lot of kit ;)
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Lose 'em by design or accident.....yep, that about sums it up...
You can pick up a male Gos for a couple of hundred nowadays
 
Cobra said:
Bloody ridiculous :shake:
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I know.....
Like I said....it's easy money, and gosses are the 'in thing'.... and they'll go the way of the harris....in time...
The only consolation is that 'lost' gosses' can breed with the wild ones....
 
the good news is the bird is being collected via a friend of a friend of a friend and its going to the Barn owl centre to be cared for,the bad news is that the lad who found it though had tried to contact the RSPCA last night via their website and calling them, no joy or help last night but lo and behold they have turned up this morning accusing him of animal cruelty and torturing the poor thing:wacky:

honestly the world is mad at times:shrug:
 
Brendan Mulachy said:
the good news is the bird is being collected via a friend of a friend of a friend and its going to the Barn owl centre to be cared for,the bad news is that the lad who found it though had tried to contact the RSPCA last night via their website and calling them, no joy or help last night but lo and behold they have turned up this morning accusing him of animal cruelty and torturing the poor thing:wacky:

honestly the world is mad at times:shrug:
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Sounds about right TBH.
Typical RSPCA :(
 
not such good news for the poor bird,the RSPCA took the bird and have destroyed it ........apparently its in its best interest :bang:

is that their idea of preventing cruelty...just bloody murder everything:bonk:
 
TBH it depends on the "level" of damage, I may have been tempted to put it down too,
if it was "severe"
Perching on one leg causes all sorts of problems (Bumble foot for one)
if it doesn't have the abbility to move about.

Having said that I know a couple of falconers birds that have had broken legs
fixed succesully, after hitting "game" too hard!

But those legs do look a little "wasted" or deformed, "beyond broken".
 
Cobra said:
TBH it depends on the "level" of damage, I may have been tempted to put it down too,
if it was "severe"
Perching on one leg causes all sorts of problems (Bumble foot for one)
if it doesn't have the abbility to move about.

Having said that I know a couple of falconers birds that have had broken legs
fixed succesully, after hitting "game" too hard!

But those legs do look a little "wasted" or deformed, "beyond broken".
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From the email I received the bird was destroyed as it had two broken legs and a broken wing, injuries were at least three weeks old....
 
Brendan Mulachy said:
not such good news for the poor bird,the RSPCA took the bird and have destroyed it ........apparently its in its best interest :bang:

is that their idea of preventing cruelty...just bloody murder everything:bonk:
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As I explained to Paul, the RSPCA are not really the best people to look after falconry birds....saying that though, the injuries were quite severe, but, it has been known that birds can recover from two broken legs.....
Paul did what he could for the bird (y)
 
Solo man said:
From the email I received the bird was destroyed as it had two broken legs and a broken wing, injuries were at least three weeks old....
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Thanks for the update :)
I must admit at the time, that wing didn't look right,
but thought it may have been "steadying itself" on what looked like two
broken or one broken & one "wasted" leg.
It makes you wonder how the hell it "got like that" though, doesn't it?

And of course the guy has absolutely no reason to reproach himself,
he did everything he could / should have (y)
 
Cobra said:

Thanks for the update :)
I must admit at the time, that wing didn't look right,
but thought it may have been "steadying itself" on what looked like two
broken or one broken & one "wasted" leg.
It makes you wonder how the hell it "got like that" though, doesn't it?

And of course the guy has absolutely no reason to reproach himself,
he did everything he could / should have (y)
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Yes, unfortunately I live on Dartmoor, which is miles away from Liverpool, and I wasn't able to get local falconers set up in time to help the guy who recovered the bird...

I would say that the bird looks like it had rickets..... could it be, a 'back yard' breeder, who didn't feed the bird on a quality diet...?
Who knows.... it's too late for the bird now anyway....
 
Solo man said:
I would say that the bird looks like it had rickets..... could it be, a 'back yard' breeder, who didn't feed the bird on a quality diet...?
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Very probable.
But as you said too late for this one now.
Unfortunately we both know its not the first, to end up
in a "right state" and won't be the last either. :(
 
Cobra said:
Very probable.
But as you said too late for this one now.
Unfortunately we both know its not the first, to end up
in a "right state" and won't be the last either. :(
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Yep, can't argue with that.....
 
What a sad end to a beautiful creature. I know of people who have had birds of prey to impress, and they end up getting passed from one idiot to another when they get bored. :shake:
 
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