Whats your views on paparazzi`s?

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I personally think they are annoying, I mean yes we have celebs but i think they can really be intruding at points

Whats your views?

And happy new year :) :thumbs: All the best :D:clap:
 
Has this got something to do with a certain program. ;) Celebs need paps, paps need celebs. Sometimes there intruding yes but without them theres no pictures of anything in mags/papers etc.
 
they provide a service to satisfy demand. If people weren't so obsessed with celebritydom, they wouldn't exist :shrug:

Of course, you could always argue that their existence creates that demand in the first place :p

Overall, they're just doing a job. There was a really good thread on here a while ago where a couple of the paps actually posted :)
 
i see their work in my daughters magazine...

give me the open countryside, a glass of ale, and a fair sky to lie under

sod them
 
I have to agree with dod. I think in all industries you get decent and bad folk. The celebs know what they are getting themselves into when they flick 'that switch', and some really utilise the paps to their advantage. In the recent Pap documentary just look at the paps attitude to, for example, Russel Brand compared to other celebs. I would love to see a film premier of some idiot celeb with no paparazzi lining the red carpet..who would be most hurt/shocked?
 
Providing we can draw a definite line between proper photojournalists and the paps, I think they're pretty worthless.

Despite being a "fellow" photographer, I view them with the same disdain and contempt that I feel for anyone else involved in perpetuating the whole plastic "cult of celebrity"; be they tabloid writers, gossip mag editors, egocentric f-list "celebrities" or the cranially vacant imbiciles whose spending keeps the whole industry going.

The world would be a far nicer place if people gave up their spoon-fed bread and circuses and took an interest in the real issues that affect us all.

Happy new year all :D
 
The paps and the gossip column writers don't do it because they want to, they do it because people will pay for it.

In the same way as those dreadful talent progs produce "pop stars", only because the general population encourage them with pound notes.
 
desantnik said:
The paps and the gossip column writers don't do it because they want to, they do it because people will pay for it.

In the same way as those dreadful talent progs produce "pop stars", only because the general population encourage them with pound notes.
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You keep beating me to it...less typing for me I suppose...

If people didn't buy the Gossip-Tabloids then they'd photograph something else.

I watched a couple of programmes about Paps - most notable the one focussing on Big Pictures' Boss Darryn Lyons, which I thought showed very well the pressures of running that kind of business and the STUPID money that publications will spend - I think the Brad-Angelina Beach pix eventually sold for over $1M... which was more than that magazine's entire yearly budget for purchased images.

The pressures of actually doing that kind of work are more like those associated with a professional assassin (obviously without the attentant carnage - well, most of the time...lol) - stalking, intelligence-gathering, finding a good shooting-position and a good exit-strategy (getting the images out to Press).

And no - I won't be going down that road after I leave the Army...not if I can help it - I want a slightly less stressful life - I'll stick to Wars...
 
pragmatist said:
A lot of celebs tip the paps off as to where they will be and even go so far as to hire them, Strange industry
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Of course they do - why else would they be 'out and about' in Trendy Nite Spots if they didn't want to be noticed and photographed?
It's perfectly possible to be rich and famous and to still keep a reasonably low-profile while enjoying the fruits of that wealth/fame - many established 'artists' (actors, musicians, whatever) manage it quite well...
Often it's those with less talent or those unfortunates who see their star on the wane that cultivate the Paps in order to remain in the public eye.
 
Arkady said:
Of course they do - why else would they be 'out and about' in Trendy Nite Spots if they didn't want to be noticed and photographed?
It's perfectly possible to be rich and famous and to still keep a reasonably low-profile while enjoying the fruits of that wealth/fame - many established 'artists' (actors, musicians, whatever) manage it quite well...
Often it's those with less talent or those unfortunates who see their star on the wane that cultivate the Paps in order to remain in the public eye.
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:agree:

Take, as a case in point, Bryan Adams...

I think he is a fairly established artist and how much of him do we see in the idiot press?

O.K. so maybe he does not compete with the miley cyrus and Avril Lavigne generations but still...
 
The paps and certain celebrities deserve each other and feed off each other.

Personally, I can`t be harrised with either set.........:)
 
IMO paps are just feeding the papers with the sort of dross my wife reads- Hello, Ok and all that sort. Celebs use the paps as much as the paps need celebs. Take Ronaldo the Real Madrid player he is always shown in the papers but how often is Paul Scholes show eating out or shopping? Celebs have that many PR's working with the press to get the spotlight on them basically "whoring" their clients. The paps are just doing a job and fair play to them, following some star around/waiting for them to show - good luck to them.
 
I wonder what their wage income is? lol.

I spose money is always an option too.
 
antonroland said:
Take, as a case in point, Bryan Adams...

I think he is a fairly established artist and how much of him do we see in the idiot press?
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No thats just you seeing only the tip of the iceberg... try looking a bit wider... like the National Enquirer!
 
As has been said before, the celebs need the Paps, especially the talentless ones. All celebs know full well what they're getting into when they go down the famous route.
I bet they'd rather have the Paps poking a lens at them all day long than stacking shelves in a supermarket for minimum wage.
 
DJMorgan said:
I personally think they are annoying
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in what way?... lets presume your not a celeb and not getting papped... how are they annoying you?

personally they dont effect me.. but if ever I become famous enough i will be happy to have them camped outside my house... may even throw them a buscuit now and then :)
 
I hate that element of photography. I have however found myself having to do it; I was shooting an event in London and the Mayor and Kelly Brook were in attendance. Part of my commission for that day was to get shots of them, there were about 20 others there also needing shots of them in a very limited space and time, so you do find youself being aggressive and doing things you normally wouldn't because you are expected to come back with the goods. I hated how impersonal it was, you feel like you're a nuisance and a pest. That's what would stop me from doing it more but some people do seem to thrive on the pressure and chasing, I just don't want to be associated with them!
 
roofowler said:
I hate that element of photography. I have however found myself having to do it; I was shooting an event in London and the Mayor and Kelly Brook were in attendance. Part of my commission for that day was to get shots of them, there were about 20 others there also needing shots of them in a very limited space and time, so you do find youself being aggressive and doing things you normally wouldn't because you are expected to come back with the goods. I hated how impersonal it was, you feel like you're a nuisance and a pest. That's what would stop me from doing it more but some people do seem to thrive on the pressure and chasing, I just don't want to be associated with them!
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So you have done it but you dont want to be associated with them? What happens next time you are sent to do a job and then asked to get a certain persons picture while you are there. Are you in a healthy enough position to turn work/money away or will you do it again?

Hope that doesnt come accross as having a pop.. its a serious question :)
 
"I was only following orders!"
 
Ask yourself if you saw, for example, David Beckham punching a traffic warden, would you take the shot if you happened to be there with your camera?

If it was worth tens of thousands of pounds perhaps?

We should not judge papp's too harshly. Many do not cross the boundary and have high moral codes. Perhaps the title of pap should only go to those who go beyond.

And how many of us are actually troubled by them day to day?

Graham
 
KIPAX said:
So you have done it but you dont want to be associated with them? What happens next time you are sent to do a job and then asked to get a certain persons picture while you are there. Are you in a healthy enough position to turn work/money away or will you do it again?

Hope that doesnt come accross as having a pop.. its a serious question :)
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Well that's the first time it had happened with quite high profile people, I was working for a regular client who I know doesn't want that kind of stuff very often and it was just one aspect of the days work (plus it's only happened maybe only twice in 2 years). If however a newspaper asked me to do a similar thing, I would have to decline, that's not what I'm into photography for. So to answer your question, if I was asked again to do it, I'd say yes if it was for my regular client, no if it wasn't.

Hope that makes sense!
 
Surely that's:

"It's my new year's resolution..."

Pedantic? :D
 
Celeb's need pap's- pap's need celeb's. If we didn't buy the magazines, then there would be no need for either :D
 
It's like dod said all about demand. That one shot of Ronaldo standing against a billboard with PR on one side and CK on the other must have flashed all around the world and been worth Thousands to the Agency the photographer belonged to :) I think they do takke it too far when camping outside the stars houses for days on end or walking with them and shoving a camera in their faces but hey ho it's a job I guess.
 
snappy4happy said:
got to make money some how
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There are other alternatives.... I mean you could:

* steal and ring cars
* mug little old ladies
* Traffic humans for prostitution
* Turn people into soap
* Be a traffic warden/estate agent/city banker
 
desantnik said:
There are other alternatives.... I mean you could:

* steal and ring cars
* mug little old ladies
* Traffic humans for prostitution
* Turn people into soap
* Be a traffic warden/estate agent/city banker
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Oh come on, you can't be encouraging people to do the last one, that's just going too far! :nono: :p
 
It depends. Those who "blend in" and photograph people without being dangerous to those around them, taking pictures of celebs going about their business, fair enough. Those who are like the mahority on that iPlayer documenty....well, honestly...I have little respect for them.
 
Most of the so called "celebs" would be worthless without the paps, frankly I don't buy the mags so really I don't know most of then and don't care. As long as it doesn't interfere with my life they can all do as they wish.
 
I might try a stint on the Cote d'azur this summer, I'd like to try it out, looks frantic and fun.
 
PerfectSpeed said:
I might try a stint on the Cote d'azur this summer, I'd like to try it out, looks frantic and fun.
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Plus you don't even need to be an established Pro - go to the Big Pictures website and you can submit images online - you simply negotiate the fee via email...
Do that a few times and if the work's up to scratch, you're in...

As your work gets 'better' and your input becomes more reliable, you 'up' the fees.
 
Arkady said:
Plus you don't even need to be an established Pro - go to the Big Pictures website and you can submit images online - you simply negotiate the fee via email...
Do that a few times and if the work's up to scratch, you're in...

As your work gets 'better' and your input becomes more reliable, you 'up' the fees.
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Nice one, thanks.
 
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