What's your workflow?

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After rearranging some files in a tidy up I realised I'd inadvertantly deleted a RAW file I'd been using in LR3 and it couldn't locate it to make further edits (fortunately I do back ups so found a copy on the external hard drive).

But it made me realise that with recent changes in how I'm editing, and with increasing numbers of photos to upload, my workflow needs a serious revamp!

Not quite sure where to start or what all LR3 can do so thought I'd ask - what's your workflow? (Especially with regard to using LR, I also have PSE8). How do you import, arrange and file your photos?
 
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I arrange by folders- years and then months. Then each shoot has it's own day. All people are tagged. I copy all folders into the hard drive area myself and then synch the parent folder myself, just the way I like to do it.

All picture folders are called
2011_8_5
2011_8_11

so that they are in order in the folder, in this case it would be the august folder. If there is a special occasion eg bday/wedding I will add that at the end of the folder as an easy scan without having to search properly. I am only doing this as personal-not pro but its worked well for me for the last year and over 20,000 images in the cat. May just start a fresh one in jan, not sure yet. Hope you get on ok, key is to make a system you understand yourself (any in my case one the wife can use if she us looking for a particular picture!)
 
When i import into lightroom. I put each project into a Named Folder, and its then by Day.

For Example my file Structure is - E:/Photos/Lightroom/Tunisia/date

It works for me! I also meta tag everything in Lightroom so its easy to find the pictures i want again!
 
I tried date folders but for how I work they just didn't suffice, especially when it came to returning to images months later if we needed to take something for stock.

My process is this:

1) Copy images manually onto external hard drive into a folder named with the magazine anacronym, the angler and the venue (so it would look like 'TCF - Bob Nudd (suffolk water park). The latter part in brackets help me because I shoot so many features with the same angler (Bob being one) that the venue is the distinguishing factor. However, the 'TCF' tag makes it easy for me to narrow down to browse through one magazine's back catalogue quite easily. These folders are in one master folder for the magazine and these master folder are in a 'work' master folder that sits alongside my 'personal' master folder.

2) Import fresh images into LR3 from their location on the hard drive. This is when I keyword; I do have some presets but because each feature might have things in it toally different to a previous feature, I just prefer to keyword manually to fit the shoot. So for example, the Nuddy feature at SWP would have keywords like: Bob Nudd, TCF, suffolk water park, roach, pole fishing, browning.... etc, etc. This is how I search my back catalogue if editorial ask me if I have a picture of a maggot or a guy fishing the margins etc. BTW, I am the only person who keywords within my company so my catalogue is unique - the other journalists/photographers don't realise the advantages it can bring if you're searching for a shot. This is the point when i also add copyright info etc....

3) Rotate any image that need it and then do a rating process, putting 5 stars for images with potential and then marking for deletion any images that just don't have what I want. I generally shoot 400-500 images per feature but a lot of that is machine-gunning, say when a guy is landing a fish, so I get rid of shots that have elements that don't work, such as no splash or the guy holding the rod or pole uncomfortably. Then I delete those to narrow down the whole shoot to a more manageable amount.

4) Copy the slimmed-down folder onto another HD so I have a back-up. These are organised exactly the same as my main HD in this filing structure: PICTURES GO HERE > WORK > MAGAZINE > JOB NAME (MAG/ANGLER/VENUE)

5) Now I go back into LR and look at the 5* images, doing alterations to levels or whatever else is needed. I generally start by doing a sharpen pre-set to all the images in the folder and then move onto individual alterations to the keepers. How I process is how I'm feeling on the day but I'm always mindful that in many cases, a contrast tweak is important to bring the image to life, so to speak. I tend to assess WB on an image-by-image basis if they're main images, or just batch tweak if it's a sequence.

6) Any images that really, really work are made into a virtual copy/copies. I keep the original, base tweak and then create a VC for every version where I want to do something major, such as adding a heavy vignette nor doing some kind of HDR-esque look. These are rated also as 5* but with a colour code as well, usually green for 'GO'.

7) Once all the tweaking is done I select all the images I want to output for perusal by the editorial staff and they go on a CD/DVD. These images are the 5* ones - if I feel an image isn't working I'll downgrade it to 4*, which means it has potential or Ill come back to it another time for my own personal satisfaction. By marking them as 4* it means they stand out from the pack :)

8) DVD/CD of images is either posted, dropped in personally, or picked up by the journalist off my porch and then it's out of my hands. The editor selects the images with help from the designer, repro do any retouching for dust spots (etc) and colour correcting to match the print process and it's away we go.

BTW, those virtual copies that will sit alongside the original, are renamed as 'main pic option 1/2/3...' so the editor can clearly see the options they have. Sometimes they like the processing and go with it (I also push them a little to do so) but some don't see the changes made, especially if they're subtle, and to be fair, some of them aren't actually the best image editors anyway so they just go with whatever looks pretty :)

So, that's pretty much how I work :)
 
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Thanks guys very helpful. :)

My current workflow is -
- Download images onto HD in folder by month, and then either general or a subfolder based on event (eg Taste Fest)
- Import images I like into LR. Edit as required.
- Export to a different subfolder within the original so I know which are the edited images.

And I'm still using Picasa to see an overview of all my edited jpegs... (it was all I had at first and I've just used to using it!)

Its not working well as you can imagine but I've only started using LR a month ago and editing RAW files about 2 weeks ago.

I'm still learning so I take lots of shots of the same thing, meaning I have ones I need to weed out so I need a better system to do that - remove them off the HD, so I'm just left with the shots I want to keep (and the ones I'm not sure about but may want to revisit).

I'm also still shooting RAW and Jpeg fine, perhaps I need to start just using RAW files?

I need to learn how to tag and catalogue in LR I think too!
 
Rather than download, then import to LR, just import straight off the card into LR and set up how you want it to catalogue, IE date/month/year or event etc
I have mine set up so I import to my photo drive, and then it automaticly puts the pictures into year/month/date folders, even if there is more than one date, month or year on the card, it creates however many folders it needs.


You can then go through the photos in LR, and either use the star system, or I just use the X to to reject any photos that I dont like and will never use and then once you have rejected all the ones you dont want, press ctrl and backspace. It will then ask if you want to delete them or just remove them from the library. I delete them completely as its a waste of space other wise. You can then keyword them one by one, or if they are all the same thing, you could have keyworded the entire import during the import phase in the step above.

Once Ive edited the RAW files, I then export the full size JPGs to a JPG folder within the main Picture folder. I also have export presets set up for non watermarked images, small sized images etc.
 
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Rather than download, then import to LR, just import straight off the card into LR and set up how you want it to catalogue, IE date/month/year or event etc
I have mine set up so I import to my photo drive, and then it automaticly puts the pictures into year/month/date folders, even if there is more than one date, month or year on the card, it creates however many folders it needs.
I actually did import to LR off the card last week - just trying it. But I need to organise where to put the pictures - that was part of the problem that flagged this up for me - I moved some folders in a tidy up and LR then couldn't find some files so I had to go and find where they were (I got it sorted out but I can't remember how now). So I can't move stuff around after I have imported in LR cos LR gets confused?

You can then go through the photos in LR, and either use the star system, or I just use the X to to reject any photos that I dont like and will never use and then once you have rejected all the ones you dont want, press ctrl and backspace. It will then ask if you want to delete them or just remove them from the library. I delete them completely as its a waste of space other wise. You can then keyword them one by one, or if they are all the same thing, you could have keyworded the entire import during the import phase in the step above.
Thanks, that's helpful. :) This is the sort of thing I need to start learning how to do.
 
You can then go through the photos in LR, and either use the star system, or I just use the X to to reject any photos that I dont like and will never use and then once you have rejected all the ones you dont want, press ctrl and backspace. It will then ask if you want to delete them or just remove them from the library. I delete them completely as its a waste of space other wise.
This is a really useful tip as I'm new to LR and didn't know I could view, tag and delete in such a straightfoward way. Thanks. :D
 
This is a really useful tip as I'm new to LR and didn't know I could view, tag and delete in such a straightfoward way. Thanks. :D

No worries :-)

If you accidently tag one that you want to keep, just mouse click on the little flag or cross in the corner and it will unflag.
 
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