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Or on the other hand, maybe she was too private a person to embrace social media. But then again, it might've suited her. Who knows?
Nobody, but I'd be willing to bet is all
Or on the other hand, maybe she was too private a person to embrace social media. But then again, it might've suited her. Who knows?
Even these days not everyone is on FB, Twitter, Instagram, etc. For instance, this forum is the only 'social media' I've regularly got involved with in the last couple of years (I've nothing against social media, if you like that sort of thing then fine, but I just don't see the point of Twitter, FB, etc.). I have a Flickr account so I can post photos on here, but that's usually used for my film stuff. My digital photos don't normally get shared, other than showing a few friends some photos on my phone screen. Not for any real reason other than I'm not ready to share them yet.I bet if FB was around at the time she'd have shared her images a lot more
If you dont care what others think why do you feel the need to justify your position and reasoning on here?
Even these days not everyone is on FB, Twitter, Instagram, etc. For instance, this forum is the only 'social media' I've regularly got involved with in the last couple of years (I've nothing against social media, if you like that sort of thing then fine, but I just don't see the point of Twitter, FB, etc.). I have a Flickr account so I can post photos on here, but that's usually used for my film stuff. My digital photos don't normally get shared, other than showing a few friends some photos on my phone screen. Not for any real reason other than I'm not ready to share them yet.
That's the way I want it at the moment, that's the way Vivian Maier may well have wanted it at the time. She's no longer around to ask (something that will inevitably happen to us all one day), I'm just glad someone who knew something about photography found her film archive and stopped it going into a skip (or dumpster as they call them over there).
Perhaps, more pertinently, that's one of the downsides of digital photography... unless someone has the password to your computer and knows you have taken a lot of photos and can be bothered to look through the files, then your work may well be lost before it's even found. How many 'Vivian Maiers' would be discovered after their death these days?
Most forums have pressure or strong views on gear or how to go about things. Just ignore it.
I am on tons of forums and they are all the same.
If your on a denim forum, you get laughed at if you don't have Japanese Jeans or at least high end ones.
On a watch forum you should have at least a Seiko or better and mechanical not quartz.
You would need to be a Dr or something to afford all the "right" gear for every hobby.
Perhaps, more pertinently, that's one of the downsides of digital photography... unless someone has the password to your computer and knows you have taken a lot of photos and can be bothered to look through the files, then your work may well be lost before it's even found. How many 'Vivian Maiers' would be discovered after their death these days?
Perhaps not - as the means of storage changes and the ability to compress all images also increases then it is quite possible for photos taken now to survive possibly for hundreds or thousands of years.i was talking to my son last night about this very subject
my line of thought was the ultimate goal for a digital photo was to end up as a print
social media is all very well but how many will survive in say another 50 years ?. i'l be long dead by then the chances of anything digital surviving i have stored is going to be very slim at best
Perhaps not - as the means of storage changes and the ability to compress all images also increases then it is quite possible for photos taken now to survive possibly for hundreds or thousands of years.
Prints in fact are likely to be more ephemeral than a digital image because paper is subject to the ravages of time, decay, damp etc, whereas digital images can be copied ad infinitum down the years and even for millennia to come.
Whether they are worth keeping virtually for ever is, however, something else.
It may happen sooner than you think. The Wikipedia article on cyborgs shows a surprising amount of work is already in progress: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyborgOf course younger generations might think differently. And when the time comes that people can have digital information uploaded to their brains...
So how should I respond when someone tells me that pro’s will laugh at me for not shooting in Manual? Do I ignore them? Call them out for bullying? Or just accept that they must be right because they’re you?BIn reality who cares and why do people care enough to moan about what other people do, have they nothing better to moan about.
So how should I respond when someone tells me that pro’s will laugh at me for not shooting in Manual? Do I ignore them? Call them out for bullying? Or just accept that they must be right because they’re you?
I knowHere's a secret. Don't tell anyone. Most pro's shoot in auto mode. Shush! Don't tell anyone.
Oh, how wrong he is. There are two of us here.I know
But the OP who can't remember when decimalisation happened thinks he's the only 'pro' round here.
Oh, how wrong he is. There are two of us here.
I'm too young to even remember the onset of digital photographyI suspect about half the forum users remember decimalisation.
Which is a good approach to life. Just remember to wear headphones when you have the music cranked up to 10 or you'll almost certainly "mess up your neighbours thrill".Do what you want to, do what you will, just don't mess up your neighbours thrill
Well, that's your two pennorth! Oops. Yes, I'll admit it, I remember the days when if you got a birthday card with a ten shilling note in it you were in clover!I suspect about half the forum users remember decimalisation.
I distinctly remember the Saturday when I went with my dad to the horse races and he came away £50 up. My share was 10s 6d to buy an Airfix Sunderland kit. Once I mentioned my new possession at school I had friends I never knew existed!Yes, I'll admit it, I remember the days when if you got a birthday card with a ten shilling note in it you were in clover!.
not spend time in Photoshop after stuck in my office all the time as I have to when shooting for a magazine, sometimes being Autistic....... not Artistic, has its benefits
I stand corrected
I actually had a Cokin 'Rainbow' filter in the late 70's - it wasn't this good though
Dave
Just as welI. Let me bore you with a story from the spring of 1969.pretty much went into the camera bag and never saw the light of day.
Not just the customer but also industry peers to benchmark the value for money being provided. Example: a local Wedding Photographer with the sound bite-I don't really care what others think BUT, if I was selling my services, I would need to take my customers' opinions into account. Keep the customers happy and if the customer is yourself, good luck!
I'm old, miserable and grumpy and enjoyinging every minute of it, 60 years young at the end of this month.
Really do not care what people think anymore, do my upmost not to mix with the 'gerneral public' who, the majority these days, get on my nerves.
Not just the customer but also industry peers to benchmark the value for money being provided. Example: a local Wedding Photographer with the sound bite-
‘if you want affordable high quality full day's professional coverage & you find it for less than my no strings one off charge, (fixed again this year at just £500 all in) good luck & hope you are not disappointed because there are so many charlatans out their trying to undercut experienced professionals like myself.”
With sample of the product delivered
View: https://youtu.be/sDZMDFs7yXQ
I assume by that statement that the images are not of today’s benchmark?He's got amazing consistency - I bet he was delivering the exact same product in the '70's.
I assume by that statement that the images are not of today’s benchmark?
When I stopped doing weddings (around 1980) the 12, 24 or 36 shot album was still the standard offering from the studios in Devon and Somerset although some of the newcomers were beginning to push the "reportage" style. It was all very formal with the photographer acting as master of ceremonies (vicar/priest permitting) at the church and liasing with the actual MC at the reception if there was one. The price included the album and the studio filled it with the pictures specified according to the deal. The studio I worked with didn't step outside the package though I took on a few less formal deals when the studio had no bookings for me. Because the system was so formalised we could take on up to 3 weddings per operator if they were 12 picture deals and the times worked out right. One memorable June weekend I managed 4 weddings as did the boss and another operator after our fourth operator got rushed to hospital with a burst appendix.Maybe they are for £500, but TBH even at that price I'd expect them all to be in focus.
Isn’t that what benchmarking is, although I agree that the current method of benchmarking/acceptance is through social media where the vast majority aren’t qualified to benchmark score and do so more from emotional perspective rather than an expert oneWe are constantly seeking that acknowledgement from others, we want that LIKE on Facebook and Instagram, each Like gives the brain a little chemical kick, a little dose of euphoria, it is like a drug, literally, our brain is just a massive chemistry set anyway. So biologically we are wired to want that LIKE. We seek that affirmation.
Psychologically, no doubt it is unhealthy to seek that constantly, it does nothing for your self-esteem, the happiness it brings isn’t real, the adoration you get from it is as fleeting as any 15mins of fame.
But we all want it, because we are wired that way.
And ultimately that is probably why the OP started this thread.But we all want it, because we are wired that way.
That begs the question why. Have they studied what constitutes a good photo / set of photos for their market, after all there’s a potential raft of difference between a technically brilliant photo and a commercially brilliant one.And ultimately that is probably why the OP started this thread.
TBH some of us need far less validation than others.