Hmm. Seems I've ruffled a few feathers...
Ok. In an attempt to put this to bed, I'm just gonna say this:
At no point, have I said that anyone shouldn't use whatever cam they want, to achieve any effect they desire. I think I said 'crack on and enjoy yourself', somewhere up there. I have absolutely no problem at all, with people shooting pics on Holgas, or any other cam. I think some people have misunderstood this, and seen it as a personal attack; it isn't.
What it is, is my view (one which is clearly shared by several others on this thread) that the whole 'lomography/lo-fi' type fad, is something that is clearly being driven by commercial interests, where a cult of personality surrounding particular cams, and a particular aesthetic style, is being touted as some kind of 'Emperor's New Clothes' pretentiousness. This does NOT mean that ALL photos shot using Holgas/whatever, or of that particular aesthetic style, fall into 'w***y pretentiousness'. I've never said that at all. Just, that many of us just aren't taken in by the cult of personality thing, where otherwise pretty mediocre images are elevated to some sort of undeserved status, just because they happen to fit in with a particular trend. This IS the case with a lot of 'lo-fi/lomography' type stuff. So much so, that you can get a 'Holga' app for your 'phone, ffs.
As for 'trolling'; such a weak, thoughtless way of trying to discredit an opinion you don't share. Pathetic.
If you do read my posts, you'll see I have attempted to open up the debate to try to discuss why such an aesthetic has become popular. I had hoped for at least some reaction to that, as I think it would be very interesting. And an opportunity for those who enjoy using cheap old cams, to discuss why they are fans of that aesthetic. So far, no takers. Then I get accused of not being 'constructive' (without the accuser actually contributing anything constructive themselves). Please; do feel free to discuss the aesthetic style; after all, isn't that the purpose of such a forum?
would you talk to someone you didnt know like this in a pub or on the street?
Erm, I'd see no reason not to. Having faced far more dangerous real life situations than an online photography forum, I am quite happy with my approach to life. It's served me well so far.
As for:
If you did I suspect that you would wake up with a crowd around you.
Aggression by proxy, such as this, is really quite pathetic, and sad.
If you realise your views aren't popular in here, and you've said your piece, just "move on" - when it comes to the point where people are accusing you of trolling, it's definitely the time to "make your excuses and leave".
I'll answer any criticism openly and honestly. End of. I have the same right to an opinion as anyone else on here. I expect that to be respected, same as anyone else. People might not like my 'style', but I've not been abusive or broken any forum rules.
I do not expect you to like this kind of imagery. Its ok you dont and I think we All get that now but purely dismissing og as crap and hipster trends with salty remarks are uncalled for.
I can only Guess it's due to lack of understanding photography Deeper than MP and resolution.
I think my comments above are adequate in explaining my position. I think there has been a certain lack of comprehension, that has led to some people getting their knickers in a twist.
I'd like to think I have a reasonable understanding of photography as a medium. I was thinking of how a discussion on such types of cams, and the aesthetic style produced using them, could lead perhaps to something like the photography of the late Soviet era, where many photographers had very limited, basic and comparitively lower quality equipment, yet were still able to produce some fantastic images. interesting article here:
From 1927 until after the fall of communism, Russia’s Soviet Photo magazine charted the region’s pioneering visual culture. A new exhibition at Moscow’s Lumiere Centre for Photography celebrates this history
www.theguardian.com
But praps that's for another day.
Anyway; to those who felt upset by any of my comments, I apologise. Peace.