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Now what has really surprised me is how boring I find the 'Macro & Close-up' section of 'Photo Sharing' I find them all 'samey'.. technically highly competent but lacking in creativity and imagination. If I see another water drop I'll scream. It's as if the thinking is said:
You could buy a Macro lens -Doesn't mean you have to take boring 'well lets take it at 1:1 and it'll make it a good picture' pictures, you could post some of you stunning creative macro shots and educate and wow the boring posters in the macro section.
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I agree, get a macro and show us all how it should be done. Don't forget to show us your rig for getting the water drops arranged in an aesthetically pleasing way.
 
I think many of the pictures sharing forums experience the same thing. When it snowed, you can bet that the landscape section was full of snow pics, wait until the Bluebells are out. In the summer there'll be lots of hover flys in the macro section. That's just the way that it is. There are loads of water drops as there has been a couple of people whose shots have been really inspirational and so people give it a go.

I think that just because you find a particular group to have samey pictures, that is a shame if that affects your purchasing. Could you not do things differently with a macro lens? Could you be one of those peiple who inspire others to shoot simialr set up pictures?

I think you should buy whatever you want to learn and experience, not base it on other peoples pictures.
 
Ouch! I think you've hit a few raw nerves here.......
 
a raw nerve. Now that would make a good macro subject.

I must say I agree. But I wouldn't say it out loud.

Oh, b****r!

I don't venture into that forum anymore for the reason given. Bugs generally aren't particularly photogenic anyway.

I avoid birds as well. It's full of people asking for idents.
 
There's no need for flaming the OP, or for the OP to feel they have to withdraw their comment. It's a fair observation. I happen to agree - and I'm a typical example of a poster around here. It's certainly worthy of discussion

Sometimes I look at my bird shots; just like everyone else's, or my landscapes [just like everyone else's], or my macros and studies [just like everyone else's]... I use my 300mm for birds, my 17mm for landscapes, and my macro for macros, I point them at the same things [back garden birds, lakes and mountains, flowers and bugs..]

I'm a hobbyist, an amateur. I'll never make my name like Man Ray or Cartier Bresson. I have some great images, but they're cliched and whilst they're better than some, others have done them better. My major failing is my lack of innovation.

Every so often, I realise it's a shame that I only point my long lens at wildlife and my wide lens at scenery. That's why so many images - no matter how technically brilliant - look a little 'samey', especially in a national melting pot such as this. We're a great many of us technically proficient. How do I raise my game?

So, the OP's comment is not only a reasonable observation, but a call to arms. the next time I go out to shoot, I'll try something different, way out of my comfort zone. Which can only be a good thing.
 
Wouldn't life be boring if we all liked the same things... ;)

My biggest problem with macro shots is the 10x lifesize eye-popping bug shots - Eeeekkk!! :eek:
 
danbroad said:
There's no need for flaming the OP, or for the OP to feel they have to withdraw their comment. It's a fair observation. I happen to agree - and I'm a typical example of a poster around here. It's certainly worthy of discussion

Sometimes I look at my bird shots; just like everyone else's, or my landscapes [just like everyone else's], or my macros and studies [just like everyone else's]... I use my 300mm for birds, my 17mm for landscapes, and my macro for macros, I point them at the same things [back garden birds, lakes and mountains, flowers and bugs..]

I'm a hobbyist, an amateur. I'll never make my name like Man Ray or Cartier Bresson. I have some great images, but they're cliched and whilst they're better than some, others have done them better. My major failing is my lack of innovation.

Every so often, I realise it's a shame that I only point my long lens at wildlife and my wide lens at scenery. That's why so many images - no matter how technically brilliant - look a little 'samey', especially in a national melting pot such as this. We're a great many of us technically proficient. How do I raise my game?

So, the OP's comment is not only a reasonable observation, but a call to arms. the next time I go out to shoot, I'll try something different, way out of my comfort zone. Which can only be a good thing.
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Great post.........:clap:
 
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Dogfish_magnet said:
You could buy a Macro lens -Doesn't mean you have to take boring 'well lets take it at 1:1 and it'll make it a good picture' pictures, you could post some of you stunning creative macro shots and educate and wow the boring posters in the macro section.
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sheddy said:
I agree, get a macro and show us all how it should be done. Don't forget to show us your rig for getting the water drops arranged in an aesthetically pleasing way.
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Maybe he's trolling, maybe he's not. Regardless, he has a point, especially as the 'problem' extends further than just the macro section... and you don't have to be an expert to pass opinion on a subject. Don't take it personally guys - it's just an observation, albeit a very god one IMHO.

I am not a macro expert, far from it – I shoot macro/close-up for work purposes and not really for pleasure – but I do feel there's a distinct lack of creativity on the image forums.

I think it was in the macro section I saw some really amazing bug shots recently, but that's probably the exception to the rule that will see countless shots of a stamen or a butterfly on a plant. There's nothing to say these are bad shots, far from it, but if you take a straw poll of the content in these forums you'll see very little in the way of amazing, thought-provoking work. It's the same with the motoring section; there are tons of snaps of a spoiler, a headlight, or a Lamborghini badge and some standard rig shots, but very few things that look truly brilliant.

This could be down to the fact that there are far more competant photographers on TP than there are amazing ones. It could be that the posters who post the most are the ones who are lower down on the skills ladder. Who knows....

Innovation isn't just about doing something so out of the ordinary you arrest the viewer because of the madness of it; it's about making something with passion so you push yourself and TBH, there is a glut of stuff posted that on face value, seriously lacks passion.
 
danbroad said:
There's no need for flaming the OP, or for the OP to feel they have to withdraw their comment. It's a fair observation. I happen to agree - and I'm a typical example of a poster around here. It's certainly worthy of discussion

Sometimes I look at my bird shots; just like everyone else's, or my landscapes [just like everyone else's], or my macros and studies [just like everyone else's]... I use my 300mm for birds, my 17mm for landscapes, and my macro for macros, I point them at the same things [back garden birds, lakes and mountains, flowers and bugs..]

I'm a hobbyist, an amateur. I'll never make my name like Man Ray or Cartier Bresson. I have some great images, but they're cliched and whilst they're better than some, others have done them better. My major failing is my lack of innovation.

Every so often, I realise it's a shame that I only point my long lens at wildlife and my wide lens at scenery. That's why so many images - no matter how technically brilliant - look a little 'samey', especially in a national melting pot such as this. We're a great many of us technically proficient. How do I raise my game?

So, the OP's comment is not only a reasonable observation, but a call to arms. the next time I go out to shoot, I'll try something different, way out of my comfort zone. Which can only be a good thing.
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This is one of the best posts that I have read. I have often thought why do I take pics. I have even thought of starting a thread asking just that question. Don't know what kind of replies that it would get - if any.
 
danbroad said:
There's no need for flaming the OP, or for the OP to feel they have to withdraw their comment. It's a fair observation. I happen to agree - and I'm a typical example of a poster around here. It's certainly worthy of discussion

Sometimes I look at my bird shots; just like everyone else's, or my landscapes [just like everyone else's], or my macros and studies [just like everyone else's]... I use my 300mm for birds, my 17mm for landscapes, and my macro for macros, I point them at the same things [back garden birds, lakes and mountains, flowers and bugs..]

I'm a hobbyist, an amateur. I'll never make my name like Man Ray or Cartier Bresson. I have some great images, but they're cliched and whilst they're better than some, others have done them better. My major failing is my lack of innovation.

Every so often, I realise it's a shame that I only point my long lens at wildlife and my wide lens at scenery. That's why so many images - no matter how technically brilliant - look a little 'samey', especially in a national melting pot such as this. We're a great many of us technically proficient. How do I raise my game?

So, the OP's comment is not only a reasonable observation, but a call to arms. the next time I go out to shoot, I'll try something different, way out of my comfort zone. Which can only be a good thing.
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The OP's original statement may be true and descibe many of the forums on here BUT....... the original removed post stated he used to be a macro shooter but would'nt buy a macro lens now because the macro section was boring etc etc - hence my post...... it a bit like posting its crap.......as crit on a posted photo - its no use to anyone,

if your going to post statements like the orininal post you need to post example shots to inspire other users and demonstrate your point - without the images the post is no use to anyone, just like bad crit without constructive comments.
 
Dogfish_magnet said:
...if your going to post statements like the orininal post you need to post example shots to inspire other users and demonstrate your point....
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Not neccessarily. It's a shame the original post isn't still up but from the quote you have posted, it seems the OP was doing a bit of spleen venting and observation making rolled into one. Everyone's entitled to their say, regardless of whether they are active in the actual thing they're commenting on. I agree that a less constructive comment isn't always expected but nonetheless, it's an opinion that has to be at the least acknowledged. :)

Maybe the constructive thing to come out of this is to inspire some people to test themselves and push their boundaries?
 
specialman said:
Not neccessarily. It's a shame the original post isn't still up but from the quote you have posted, it seems the OP was doing a bit of spleen venting and observation making rolled into one. Everyone's entitled to their say, regardless of whether they are active in the actual thing they're commenting on. I agree that a less constructive comment isn't always expected but nonetheless, it's an opinion that has to be at the least acknowledged. :)

Maybe the constructive thing to come out of this is to inspire some people to test themselves and push their boundaries?
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The quote i put up is not the full post, which is a shame as the original post came across as arrogant with the OP indicating the macro forum is not worthy of his orininal inspiring and creative macro images so he was going to buy a landscape lens instead.
 
This has got to be the longest running thread with no primary post. If I remember correctly, the OP withdrew his question after 4 replies and exactly 1 hour after he first posed the question/comment.

28 hours and 23 posts later and we are still talking about it......... :shrug:
 
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