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That's Carl, 1.5hrs each way not a problem if its worth the trip and looks like it would be if I picked a nice evening ive done 22k miles driving since August since we bought a new company in Sheffield and spend 15hrs driving to Acharacle - Scottish Highlands last month (this was via Newcastle to visit daughter so quite a divert!) so driving not too much a problem now but like idea of the stop over I did think about staying on a Friday night to do something on the Saturday or come up Saturday / Sunday and then only 1.5hrs back to Sheffield hotel ready for the Monday morning